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 Post subject: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:29 pm 
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I have used Sampo coastlock for probably 30 years. Not many problems, but the cost is getting a little steep. Over the years I have tried Cabelas, Bass pro, and Berkley ( discontinued). The berkley's and Spro were good, the others were not up to par. This year I am trying some Opti-tackle, they are slightly less money than the Sampos. Are there any quaility swivels out there at a reasonable cost??


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 Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts?
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I too, was loyal to Sampo. In recent years however, we experienced some failures. Heard that they changed manufacturing process. I will tell you in advance that I am a Dreamweaver Pro-staffer, but for the 2 seasons that we have run their ball-bearing swivels we have had ZERO failures. Pretty sure "Dream Steelie" Pete has them on his Great Lakes tackle site.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:34 pm 
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I'm looking at giving the ones at bass pro a try. Has anybody used them?
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/store ... 0_100-10-5

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I have been using Optitackle Duolocks for years. Good product. The company was sold to another minnesota tackle company, so hopefully they maintain their quality.


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I like the Cabalas welded ring ones. I buy the double ring & put a duolock snap or crosslock . With the double ring it is easy to replace the snap. 24 for around 12 bucks.


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i have been useing both Cabelas and Sampo ball bearing swivels with welded rings, i add my own crosslock snap.i had snaps fail but never the swivels. i'm curious as what fails the snap or swivels for i can not see a welded ring swivel failing.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:24 am 
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Spro and Dreamweaver all the way,

Sampo swivels now seem thinner and have fewer twists c/w older swivels from a few years ago and they just seem cheaper. That being said, I prefer their dark black finish.

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Disclaimer - I do not have any financial ties to Spro or Sampo. However I am currently in discussion with Dreamweaver to be a "field tester" for their products although I do not have any financial ties to their business.


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Sampo swivels have faiedl me a number of times. I was lucky most times as the snap failed when I opened or closed it in my hand nothing lost. I have started to stay away from the "black" color snaps as I have heard ( note heard this no 100% sure) that they acid dip them for the black color and this makes them weaker than the sliver color ones...........anyone know if this is true ????
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 Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts?
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Yes, the black weakens them. A freinds mother used to work at Sampo. (No deals from her either)


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Only thing I have had fail is the snap ,not the swivel . Thats why I get the two ring & put my own on. I get the smaller swivel with a little bigger snap. Thet test at 35 lb. Get a small swivel & the snap is tiny.


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Weird - the ONLY snap-swivels I have ever had fail are Sampos. I have had no failures with Cabelas, Bass Pro, or Torpedo Divers snaps. I think I have some Opti's, and bought some Eagle Claws on clearance over the winter. The most expensive ones for me have been the least reliable.

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I gave these a try last year with great results. Very cheap compared to the more popular brands too.

https://www.torpedodivers.com/scart/pro ... mNum=S0010


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Split,
I used the BassPro last year with no problems but limited water time may not be enough to verify their longevity.
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