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holy mackerel
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Post subject: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:29 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 6:30 pm Posts: 147 Location: Palmyra, New York
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I have used Sampo coastlock for probably 30 years. Not many problems, but the cost is getting a little steep. Over the years I have tried Cabelas, Bass pro, and Berkley ( discontinued). The berkley's and Spro were good, the others were not up to par. This year I am trying some Opti-tackle, they are slightly less money than the Sampos. Are there any quaility swivels out there at a reasonable cost??
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:01 pm |
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I too, was loyal to Sampo. In recent years however, we experienced some failures. Heard that they changed manufacturing process. I will tell you in advance that I am a Dreamweaver Pro-staffer, but for the 2 seasons that we have run their ball-bearing swivels we have had ZERO failures. Pretty sure "Dream Steelie" Pete has them on his Great Lakes tackle site.
_________________ Captain Vince Pierleoni THRILLSEEKER Sportfishing
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Splitshot115
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:34 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:02 pm Posts: 948 Location: Northeast Pa.
Home Port: Myers Point, Cayuga
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:19 am |
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Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:55 am Posts: 693 Location: Amherst, N.Y.
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I have been using Optitackle Duolocks for years. Good product. The company was sold to another minnesota tackle company, so hopefully they maintain their quality.
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:43 am |
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I like the Cabalas welded ring ones. I buy the double ring & put a duolock snap or crosslock . With the double ring it is easy to replace the snap. 24 for around 12 bucks.
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emtystringer
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:20 am |
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i have been useing both Cabelas and Sampo ball bearing swivels with welded rings, i add my own crosslock snap.i had snaps fail but never the swivels. i'm curious as what fails the snap or swivels for i can not see a welded ring swivel failing.
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momay4000
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:24 am |
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Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:16 pm Posts: 447 Location: ontario, NY; port - Irondequoit Bay
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Spro and Dreamweaver all the way,
Sampo swivels now seem thinner and have fewer twists c/w older swivels from a few years ago and they just seem cheaper. That being said, I prefer their dark black finish.
Good luck,
- Chris
Disclaimer - I do not have any financial ties to Spro or Sampo. However I am currently in discussion with Dreamweaver to be a "field tester" for their products although I do not have any financial ties to their business.
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ERABBIT
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:36 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:19 pm Posts: 567 Location: Montrose , Pennsyltuckey
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Sampo swivels have faiedl me a number of times. I was lucky most times as the snap failed when I opened or closed it in my hand nothing lost. I have started to stay away from the "black" color snaps as I have heard ( note heard this no 100% sure) that they acid dip them for the black color and this makes them weaker than the sliver color ones...........anyone know if this is true ???? Good topic !!! 
_________________ Ed
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holy mackerel
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:46 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 6:30 pm Posts: 147 Location: Palmyra, New York
Home Port: Hughes Marina since 1979
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Yes, the black weakens them. A freinds mother used to work at Sampo. (No deals from her either)
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:27 pm |
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Only thing I have had fail is the snap ,not the swivel . Thats why I get the two ring & put my own on. I get the smaller swivel with a little bigger snap. Thet test at 35 lb. Get a small swivel & the snap is tiny.
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:51 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:44 pm Posts: 233 Location: Port of Rochester
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Weird - the ONLY snap-swivels I have ever had fail are Sampos. I have had no failures with Cabelas, Bass Pro, or Torpedo Divers snaps. I think I have some Opti's, and bought some Eagle Claws on clearance over the winter. The most expensive ones for me have been the least reliable.
_________________ Jim Boat: Baha Cruisers 277 GLE Boat Name: Trophy Seeker
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YooperDad
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:35 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:02 am Posts: 7 Location: Marquette, MI
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Reel Doc
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Post subject: Re: Ball bearing swivels, thoughts? Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:09 am |
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Split, I used the BassPro last year with no problems but limited water time may not be enough to verify their longevity. Greg
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