Yankee Troller

 Here is a link to the broadcast, which starts at 8 PM ET.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knt8IoaXtJk

Might be something in here

Exciting times as we lay out our new command center.

I've got an 8" Raymarine C80 I'd let go for $250 - EBAY Link

I honestly didn't pay attention, and we set-up as it was getting light out. So that makes it tough. I generally put half and half out and see what fires.

23 hours ago, lrg355 said:

I am surprised about everyone who does not go by manufacturers recommendations.  Lots of comments on charging while running but all wrong!

90% of the bass guys are running these charge on the run systems, and have been for years. If this was the case the trolling motor companies, who also sponsor them, should be warning against this?

14 hours ago, HB2 said:

Well we  as fisherman demand bigger and more kings . You guys better do something about it . 

 

 

We are working on it sir . Thank you very much for your input . You have a nice day . .....  

 

Your post made me chuckle, BUT I doubt they are "working on it." If they are, I'd love to hear about these studies at our lake meetings over graphs of declining fish size. It would offer some hope like the increase in baitfish studies have over the last few years.

Here's my set-up. Both are 10" screens. On the Trojan we ran 4 Humminbirds networked together. On the network they shared a SI/DI transducer, an Airmar 50/200 transducer, and a MEGA Live transducer.

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32 minutes ago, Frogger said:

Rob, are they networked to one transducer?

He's running two different brands on his transom, so to answer your question no. However, he has two 'birds at the helm which are sharing a SI/DI and Airmar 50/200 transducer with the 'bird in the back.

53 minutes ago, tyler.woodard04 said:

Morning Richard, do you have these in the shop?

I don't have them in stock. Used my last one about a month ago. I can get one coming if you want one.

A lot of boats out there with Chinook Rudders. They were night and day on the Trojan. The new Tiara will be getting them as well.

On 3/24/2023 at 12:17 PM, tyler.woodard04 said:

From what I can tell my kicker is equipped with charging. Currently run this motor fixed straight and run the speed just under the target speed and use my Terrova to steer and fine tune the speed.  I have 2 31 size batteries running the trolling motor (12V) Any reason I should not run the cables from the kicker to the trolling batteries?  

Look into the Power Pole Charge. We have used this charger a lot at the marina. When your main or kicker is running you can divert that alternators output to your trolling motor batteries. Kickers don't have huge alternators, but it will help. The Power Pole Charge also acts as an onboard charger and an emergency jump start.

I'm not electrician, but I don't know if you can hook your 12v kicker into a 24/36v battery bank? The Power Pole Charge helps make these conversions from 12v to 24/26v happen.

9-10" is what I sell the most for transom screens. Unless funds are endless I always push guys to purchase a pair of 9" screens for their helm vs one 12". It's the same money.

13 hours ago, HB2 said:

And who says that they are not studding as to why this is happening ? 

I attend every meeting that is open to the public. I've never heard of a study or experiment by the state to figure this out. Wouldn't you like to know where the top GOSD and LOC fish each year were bred? Whatever got those fish to be the biggest in the lake is something we should concentrate on. 

13 hours ago, HB2 said:

I guess it bothers me a bit when a cooler full of 15# to #25 kings is an embarrassment . When a day like that is deemed a failure , gentlemen, we are in hell  . Which begs the question ,what do you really want ?

Since you've been around since the beginning you should know we've had both. Why not have good fishing with good size fish?

12 hours ago, Long time fisherman said:

Thanks! Do you think the Suffix advanced would tend to go any deeper?

I don't know

21 hours ago, Long time fisherman said:

Thanks Yankee Troller! What do you figure is your depth with a scorpion size spoon out 10 colors at approximately 2.5 GPS?

I figure 40-45', but I'm sure it is more or less depending on currents and thermoclines.

5 minutes ago, LongLine said:

Another question arrises.  Namely Pen rearing. While we all agree that it's great for survivalbilty, does having a different diet than the Naturals for those few weeks, have any bearing?
 

When they did the tagging study pen were bigger at age 0-2, but at age 3 is when everything evened out.

14 hours ago, HB2 said:

 Michigan went thru a long time of small fish . The general consensus was that it was from a baitfish crash. An it seems like things are getting back to normal there .  

So there is hope . 

 

If the average size is bigger next year , we can assume those fish we were catching that were 12 to 18# were 2 year olds . 

 

 

If you talk to the big name charter captains on the lake (ones who sit on the lake board) they say we never had a baitfish crash/problem. I don't agree with their views, and I think our baitfish population took a massive hit with those two year classes.

I don't think there is a need to assume year classes in this world with the science and technology we have. If the DEC really wants to understand these Salmon and Trout they need to step up and do more. We all want answers. There's no reason to wait a year to see what age a fish is.

6 minutes ago, HB2 said:

Hey man , I got a lot of kings this year , and a lot of 2 year olds . Next year might be great . 

We can all guess that fish are 1, 2, or 3 years old on a boat, but were they 2yr olds we were catching? Only labs with samples off of fish can identify that. Here's a thought. How about some of that data the DEC takes samples at each tournament. No tourney team is trying to bring in 1 and 2 year old fish. You have the best guys out there targeting the best fish.

7 minutes ago, HB2 said:

And I know size is down . I see it .  And realistically , NOBODY , knows for sure why . We all can speculate , and I have my thoughts , but it's just that , speculation . 

You bring up a great point, and I bet money there are no projects or research being done on this. One of the most lucrative fisheries in NYS and no one is curious why size is declining. Are we not taking the right genes at the hatchery? Is it diet related? Is constant inbreeding causing this? With all the colleges in NYS we couldn't get one involved in trying to figure this out?

28 minutes ago, HB2 said:

Last year I caught a bunch of Jacks skien fishing the creek . This year I did not catch one . And did not see anyone else catch one . So I'm going to take a wait and see attitude on this . Maybe next year will be better size wise . We had a few  good years  of bait and the stocking is going to increase . 

 

And we did catch a bunch of 2 year olds this year that had good size 

 

Doesn't matter if you catch jacks in the tribs or not. They are there and the DEC WILL use them.

You hope all you want to get back to bigger Salmon, but I provided you with almost 20yrs of data. If you can't see a declining size with that I don't know how else to show it. There's no reason we can't have great fishing and big fish. 

We've been running the FishUSA Stealthcore for a while now. We used to use the Suffix stuff it wasn't bad, but it was really bright. 

On 10/21/2023 at 5:45 AM, HB2 said:

What goes on in the tribs , really doesn't affect the quality of the fishing in the lake . 

 

Stop blaming trib anglers for the woes of the fishery .

Are you 100% sure about this? I'm not asking to close down every trib. I just want something done to the one that services this WHOLE fishery. You don't think the bigger fish yanked out of the system (most times illegally) prior to getting to the hatchery hasn't affected the gene pool at all? It's not about egg take quota. It's about breeding the biggest fish in the system with each other. You can get 100 charter boat captains on here and 95% will tell you this season was amazing. Me, the last two seasons have been embarrassing with the smallest size Salmon ever in the system.

Here's some LOC history for the 10th place Salmon over the years. So, what have we done in recent years? We've cut stocking becasue of baitfish shortages, yet the DEC is willing to increase stocking in 2024 becasue of good looking baitfish assessments. However, our Salmon are the smallest ever? Don't you think if there was this surplus of GOOD bait in the lake our Salmon would be gorging?

18 hours ago, yank my line said:

I have watched the workers at the hatchery take the big salmon and throw them without stripping or milking. They like to handle 15 to 20 pounders.

I sure hope this is not the case, but they are also the ones that tell us sperm from jacks is really potent and performs well. I am 100% against the use of sperm from jacks to feed this system.

18 minutes ago, rolmops said:

I'm with you on that one, but with a twist. There is not a real reason why the egg take is done at a specific date. It can be done a lot earlier ,or in stages. If the river can be closed to fishing for say, a week before egg take so the salmon can safely reach the hatchery there would indeed be a better chance at SELECTIVE size dependent  egg take. But it should not only be the river. There should be no boats in front of the river during that time either. I'm sure that the DSR would support this for their own reasons

There is a reason why egg take is done at a specific time. It's temperature related to produce the best eye up. 

Boats in front of a river, in my opinion, do very little to hurt what is running the river. Those fish have to bite to be caught in open water. There's no way to troll over to the largest fish and catch it out of the system like you can do fishing the river.