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  1. When I run them I use a fixed cheater. Use a rubber band to hold the cheater on the main line/wire so it won't move. I used a 6' leader on the cheater and had it about 7' above the dipsey. If you want to trip the dip and bring it up the spoon on the cheater would stay in position above the dipsey and really didn't tangle on the main line. When a fish hits the cheater it would slide down to the dipsey and trip it. Only used it with spoons on both dip & cheat. Was afraid that a dodger on the dip would cut the leader with a fish on the cheater. When you hook up be prepared to untangle a mess :shock: .

    It's a handful to rig and run so proceed with caution. Had a double once, 2 dink salmon, used scissors to clear those lines :lol: .

  2. Not sure if Huntfrisco is going to post tonight.....partying.

    We had a 6 1/2 hour boat ride.. :shock: ....one dink salmon :$ .

    Area trolled was from Rocky Point on the east side up past Lavenna with a couple loop-t-loops and then Deans Cove south to about 1-2 miles past Sheldrake(more loop-t-loops). Ran most everything,...lets see there was the:

    ...boards w/plugs, mini diver

    ...wire using 2 different size dips with dodger/fly, dodger spoon, dodger/streamer,spoons of various sizes.

    ... and then there was riggers w/spoons, small dodger/fly, small dodger/streamer, sliders, plugs, mini diver w/ stuff.

    All those sets got us really hungry....had coffee, carrot roll, kaltahki (sp),sandwiches, pretzels and I think I saw a bottle of juicy juice. Good thing we brought the big cooler along `cause it made a nice seat in the cabin next to the heater :roll: .

    Well that trip scratched my itch for a trip to the north end for awhile. Stix did the right thing and stayed south.

  3. I've run cheaters on the dipsey using the super lines but haven't tried it on the wire. It's a little clumsy but it will work. Just keep the cheat up the line a little farther than the length of the cheater so when retrieving the dipsy the cheater won't tangle with the dip. Haven't used it much because of the extra pain it is to get rigged and deployed without getting into the other stuff.

    Fun to play with when things grt slow........like today :)

  4. I started this thread so huntfrisco & stix would feel the pressure to keep it going.......preferably with an actual report for that date. :)

    Weather is a little iffy for Sat but we want to close the year with a better report than the last one.

    If Huntfrisco will brave the elements and take his boat out then I'll tag along to make sure he doesn't make up any fish stories. :roll:

    We definitely could use a little help from those that have winter trolling experience on Cayuga. Some tactics and areas from more recent years successes would be great. We can also use the positive mental attitude of the Board members by thinking that the winds will be low and that the temps will be above 30 deg. :shock: This could vary well be our last attempt for 2006 ;( , so we really need you guys at this critical time.......think calm winds & cool temps :) . Thanks, I knew we could count on you to help us out ;) .

  5. I wasn't going to respond because I didn't have much to say that wasn't already said.

    Ken was diffinitely a good host. Had the heater on in the boat before he even launched. We had calm seas for the most part and the coffee & cookies were available all day. We never had to put the rain coats or extra jackets on and by 11AM the sun came out and one would think it was April.

    We covered a lot of water that day and didn't mark many fish and fewer bait balls. Ran plugs from start to finish off the boards. Also covered all depths from 5' to 65' with riggers, sliders and wire dips at various times. Only caught dink salmon on all sets except the dipsey. Spoons & plugs worked but the plugs took the most. Best action was when we picked up 2 salmon on spoons on one rod, ball at 60' and a free slider. The glory fish are a little illusive right now. I know they are there somewhere. Maybe next time.

  6. Stix, you may have seen this before but thought I'd throw it back up for you. As you can see I placed my downriggers as far aft as posible. Doing this I was able to gain a little extra room along the side. My outboard riggers are just aft of the rear cleat and the inboard riggers next to the motor well accomplishes a couple things. Most importantly is it clears the sides for rodholders and/or people to work rods or fish. It also keeps the rigger cables closer to the rear of the boat so when turning, the outboard cables won't swing as quickly to the inboard cables. May let you turn a little sharper than riggers set farther up the gunnels.

    Another nice advantage is being able to use short arms on the inboard riggers. Arms are still long enough to swing into the prop wash if desired and short enough to rig the balls with out cable pulleys. There is about 5'6" from pulley to pulley between the inboard riggers as positioned in the picture. I also added another notch to the inboard swivel bases so they will set straight back if desired. I have four positions on each inboard rigger to cover any area behind the boat. Positions are: straight back, behind engine, corner of transom and position in picture. Works great when landing fish from the back. Opens a nice size hole to bring fish in without pulling rods.


  7. ....the way I hear it Stix was supposed to stay home and make Christmas cookies Saturday morning and told his wife that he had to run to the store and buy some flour & sugar......never got back home till dark :shock: .

    Better watch it Stix....can't bull $hit the wife all the time :)

    What's a guy to do................. ;)

  8. ......Ok...thanks. If you have the grapes to take your boat out tomorrow I'll show up in the morning. Now I won't be able to get anything done at the office today (like I was going to do much anyway :roll: )

    My back up plan was to go and fish off Swedes dock :P

    Call me tonight with your decision............can't wait :!:

    PS: coffee is on

  9. Im wondering if I dare plan a little fishing trip next Sunday It would be a true test of marrage.

    Stix, Saturday would be a good day to fish and you can stay home with the misses on Sunday. Temps in the 50's. So what's the big deal if it rains a little.

    Cleaned the guns and put them in the safe. Now I have to find someone with a boat that is ready to fish (mine is stored for the winter).

    Huntfrisco........come out, come out where ever you are......time to take 195 out of the barn ;). I promise to stay on my side of the boat if you take me fishing for a Christmas present. Please.

  10. We bought ones for our wire rods last year but the original tips are still good, we won't put the twilli tips on until the wire eats up the original tips.

    ....just a thought. If you wait until the wire eats up the rod tip, at what point does the worn tip starts to nick, chafe, scratch, fry the wire? I've heard others say the same thing and often wondered when things start to melt down :shock: .

    I figured that if a special tip was designed to aid in the life expectancy of the wire then the sooner put on the better. Did I pull off perfectly good rod tips for nothing? :(

    Maybe someone can set us straight on the effects of standard tips vs twilli tips vs roller tips when using wire line and what way is the best to go.

  11. Thanks for the fish report. I really needed that. I was starting to get the shakes (wasn't from the cold weather in the woods) :) . One more day of deer hunting and then I'll put the guns away.



    a little off subject,

    Seems your optmiser inventory may have gotten bigger since Chaos paid his ABOAONY dues :shock:. Did you happen to take advantage of the clearance sale recently? :roll:

    ABOAONY audit due by January 15,`07. We may have to get together for coffee and make the numbers work out on the books :? ....

  12. So far I haven't had a bad experience with the dipsey hitting bottom and hanging-up. :shock: I've been running dipseys for over 15 years but it's probably just a matter of time, I'm due. :$

    I've had them hit bottom 3 ways. One is when trolling close to structure, say over 120' bottom and the dipsey hits the wall of a steep drop off close by. Second was in a turn over,say 90' bottom and the inside dipsey hits. The third is when I do it on purpose to see the true depth my dipsey is running at for the conditions that I'm fishing.

    In most cases the dipsey will ride the bottom if it's fairly smooth and you'll see the rod twitching like a small fish is on. If it hits something hard or digs in it will usually trip and start to surface. The dipsey doesn't nose into the bottom because it's usually at #2- 2 1/2 setting and the angle of the dipsey puts one side lower and that side hits first and slides along the bottom.

    Never had any issues running dipseys with 4 downriggers. Biggest problem I have is fish hitting sliders on the riggers and getting into the dipsey wire. That's going to happen a few times a season. I just put up with it because both setups are just to good not to use. ;)

  13. Merc 9.9 is available with power tilt/trim & remote controls. Don't have any experience with that size engine on 24' boats. The 8 & 9.9hp engines are the same engine except a little different carb. Regardless of what your going to put it on I'd go with the 9.9 for the difference in money.

  14. Need a fish report fix.

    Been in the woods trolling for BLAT Heads (as stix would say). Hasn't been any reports since the board was rebuilt. Was hoping that the momemtum would start back up. How about it stix, you get out last weekend? Weather was good.....

  15. Stinger/Stix; any thoughts? (You are the smartest guys I know, but then again, I don’t have many friends…) :devil:


    See that Stix....now he thinks we are his friends.....but he does have the smart part right :? . We may consider being your friend once you pay your ABOAONY dues. Cash can be sent directly to $tix.

    The question what to do about rate choice. I'm going with the the variable rate. Only a portion of the bill is affected by this anyway. How much do you think your going to save...$30.00 a year? The way I look at it is if I had to come up with a guaranteed fixed rate for one year I'd be sure to cover my A$$.

    I'll take my chances with the variable rate and fuel prices. Besides, the Dem's are going to talk with Iran and make everything better :roll: and oil prices are going to fall :shock: .

    Now lets get back to fishing..... :)

  16. Kudos.......didn't realize how much I use this board until it went down.

    Great enhancments added to this new and improved Forum.

    Maybe the HACKER did us a favor (but you three got stuck with all the work).

    Anyway thanks, we really do appreciate your time invested in all of this.

  17. There may be a momentary cut-out switch that is bad or going bad. The switch should break & make the ignition circuit when you shift into gear to take the load off the shift gears. Had that problem on a `86 Mercruiser 140hp IO. Every time I tried to shift into forward or reverse it died. Thank God it was at the dock and not out on the lake :shock: .

    Something to check out.

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