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Tim Bromund

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  1. Guys, here's a link to Capt. John DeLorenzo's web site with some basic rigging tips for fishing the Lower. http://niagarariverguides.com/sys-tmpl/january/ Tim
  2. Actually, I've seen side by side tests done on the same boat, there is no less blowback on a DR probe (I have a DR), the ST and DR probes are the same diameter, the DR probe is just shorter, the diameter is what makes resistance, not the length. Tim
  3. THat is correct, the disease hit the hatchery the next year. Our lake trout are currently being reared in a hatchery in Vermont, since Alleghany hasn't been touched since the disease hit it.
  4. Bill, I'd love to have the brown fishing in Olcott that you have in FH, unfortunately, so few of our resident browns survive the pathetic yearly bloodbath/slaughter at Burt that the numbers just aren't here. Every year I'm amazed that ANY browns make it back to the lake out this way. Tim
  5. YT, everyone drifts using their bow mounted electric trolling motor to maintain speed and boat control. Not sure how a fiberglass bass boat would handle the occasional icebergs though, most everyone uses outboard powered aluminums. You could certainly do it with the bass boat, but it might get a little cold as open as they are. also with the low freeboard, you'd have to be selective in the drifts you ran to. I don't think I'd take one up past the power plant to fish the devils hole drift, but Artpark and the drifts below should be fine. Use the trolling motor to keep your speed the same as or just slightly slower than the current speed and veritically bottom bounce/jig your sacks, glow bugs, kwikfish etc with pencil lead as you drift down stream(similar to drop shotting). The trolling motor for boat control is the most important thing since there may be 40 other boats doing the same drift as you and they'll be right along side of you (sometimes within 10 feet or less). Tim
  6. You don't need a roller guide rod, the Daiwa Heartland Dipsy rods (mid $30's) plus a twilliw tip are all you need. I've got 2 Heartland wire diver rods that have gone through 6 seasons with just a twilli tip and they are as good as new. Tim
  7. Not on the three SG47LCA's on my boat it doesn't. 1000' of wire fills them up perfectly. Tim
  8. Yeah, but I said July and most of August. I also specifically excluded May. Once they start staging at the bar in late Aug, all bets are off. What I was saying is that for MOST of the summer, the fishing is much better at the Oak. They also have pretty darn good fishing there in April, May, June, July, August, September etc. Since the question was most consistent all season long, there's no comparison IMO. Honestly, Olcott is probably just as consistent as the Oak, but it's a lot tougher to get any info on the fishing there, so unless it's your home port, Olcott is tougher to fish out of. That's why I voted for Oak Orchard. Tim
  9. If I remember correctly, it's still shut down because of disease problems they are haveing trouble eradicating. tim
  10. YT, the lake trout thing wasn't the DEC's fault, they are stocked by the Feds through the fish and wildlife service. They had back to back years with problems at the allegany federal hatchery where the lakers are raised and lost two entire year classes. The only reason we have had any LT stocking at all the past couple years is because some fish were redirected from what would have been finger lake stocks. Allegany is still offline and will be for the forseeable future. Other hatcheries have picked up the slack somewhat since then, but that'll be an ongoing problem for years. Regarding the Pen Projects, the returns depend on the straem in question. The 4 or 5 year fin clip study between Oak Orchard and the Lower Niagara is where the king Pen data mainly comes from. Interesting results there. In the Lower Niagara, theere was no advantage to pen rearing kings, in fact the direct stocked kings had better numbers than the pen fish there. At Oak Orchard it was very different, there was a 4:1 ratio of pen to direct stocked returns there. I have the actual data somewhere if anyone wants to muddle through it. Getting off the track a little, Steelhead are another story altogether, The adipose clip and coded wire tag study conducted on the oswego river showed something crazy like a 16:1 pen over direct stocked return. Tim
  11. I also own a DR but just for the record, the probe may be shorter, bit it is the same diameter as the SubTroll probe. I've seen em run side by side on the same boat, there is NO difference in blowback between the two, so the smaller probe really isn't an advantage to the DR. The epoxy sealed circuit board, double seal on the cap and superior battry displacement are advantages, but the probe size is meaningless. It really comes down to whether you want an analog or digital display, since they are both built on the same technology (Moor's by the way). You can't go wrong with either of them. Tim
  12. Unless your buddies are fishing the other division (Pro vs Am) why would anyone who's on fish call in their buddies fishing the same division and competing against them? Seems like a great way to cut your own throat. Tim
  13. didn't say it was awful, but, for instance, the bar fishing in July doesn't even come close to the Oak in July. Most of August either for that matter. Tim
  14. Here's a link to a recent DEC release on the Egg Collection. This is an Adobe pdf file it is halfway down on the LOTSA website http://www.lotsa.org/index2.htm Tim
  15. Yeah, but on the open lake, after the May King season, the bar doesn't typically have anywhere near the T & S fishery that other ports do. since we're looking at all season, I don't think the Niagara even comes close. Tim
  16. I fish out of Olcott for the most part (which is pretty darn consistent too, one you learn the water), but I voted for Oak Orchard. It seems like there is great fishing there from the start of the season to the end, every year. Tim
  17. Yes, before the bottom is painted, you should really have it prepped and epoxy barrier coated first. Unlike the bottom paint, which has to be re-applied every year or two, the barrier coat is a one time deal. Adds a bit to the initial cost, but well worth the investment from what I can see. I'm going to be doing the same myself in the spring. I had the Thompson in a slip unpainted this past season and the bottom is a wonderful tannic brown stain at the moment. I didn't get a chance to acid wash it before the weather went to crap, so I'll have to do that first thing in the spring. Tim
  18. they already tried that too, no good from other great lakes states and I'm not sure on the west coast fish, but I think the threat of introducing new diseases makes that not something they want to attempt. Tim
  19. It's not all bad. The quality of the eggs they've been getting from Burt have been excellent and at 2 million eggs, they should be able to raise enough babies to have at least SOME stocking across the lake. With the 800,000 they had 2 weeks ago, the ONLY place that would have received fish would have been the Salmon River to make sure they at least had brood stock in 4 years. They typically get 60% of the eggs to hatch and make it to release size, maybe a little bit better, so with the Salmon Rever getting it's full alottment of 600,000 there should be SOME left for other stocking sites. Tim
  20. I was ther at Burt saturday helping collect the donated fish for the DEC. They had much better success on friday processing 30 or so hens, and a bunch of males. The run was slower on saturday and we only collected 6 hens and 15 or so males. As of Saturday they were right around 2 million eggs. They were considering one last try this morning to see if sopme more kings moved up to the dam area after saturday, but I haven't heard if that happened, and ifthey did, how it went. If I hear anything I'll let you guys know. Tim
  21. Another decent day today collecting eggs I believe i heard another 30 hens were processed between 18 Mile and the Oak. The DEC has committed to continuing at both sites through the weekend, so basically it looks like we have 3 more days to get them as many eggs as we can. We need as many people as possible to come out to both sites (Burt and Waterport) the next three days and help out. They acutally need more fishermen than other assistance, so if you can make it any time now through sunday and go try and catch some kings for the egg collection effort, it would be greatly appreciated. Tim
  22. This just in, the DEC will be at both Burt and Oak Orchard tomorrow collecting eggs and milt. Anyone that can go down and catch some salmon and help out the effort would be greatly appreciated. Tim
  23. The problem is the drought this year kept the water so low in the salmon river that the fish couldn't make it up to the hatchery in sufficient numbers. Unfortunately that created a situation where a lot of fish were trapped in the lower SR and easy pickins for the circus. it also made a lot of fish spawn in the river itself instead of running back to the hatchery, from what I understand, the king run is all but over on the SR for the year. Tim
  24. BUFFALO NEWS ARTICLE http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/n ... 99100.html SYRACUSE PAPER ARTICLE http://www.syracuse.com/poststandard/st ... xml&coll=1 EMERGENCY, Guys, this is serious. Time is running out for this egg taking season. The State needs to GET SOME PRESSURE TO ""IMMEDIATELY"" TAKE WHATEVER ACTION POSSIBLE TO COLLECT AS MANY EGGS AS POSSIBLE IN THE SHORT PERIOD THAT IS LEFT TO DO SO. They are well under 50% of the way to their goal for eggs and fast running out of time. As it has been explained to us at LOTSA , the Salmon River, as the brood stock stream, will get 100% of its stocking allotment REGARDLESS, with all the rest of the stocking sites receiving their pro-rated proportions of what little is left (if there is any). (read: not very many fish to be stocked anywhere but the salmon river next spring). As indicated above in the Buffalo News article, the DEC along with volunteers collected eggs both by electroshocking 18 Mile Creek and requesting eggs and milt from fishermen a Fisherman’s Park on Friday and Saturday. Well, we EQUALED THE BEST DAY THEY HAD AT THE HATCHERY THIS YEAR ON FRIDAY AT 18 MILE AND THE QUALITY OF THE EGGS WERE EXCELLENT. EVERYONE PLEASE CONTACT YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESSURE THEM TO AUTHORIZE AND ENACT WHATEVER MEASURES ARE NECESSARY (MORE ELECTROSHOCKING AT TRIBS SUCH AS 18 MILE OAK ORCHARD, GENESEE RIVER ETC.) for as long as necessary TO ENSURE THE DEC GETS THE 3+ MILLION EGGS IT NEEDS TO FULFILL OUR CHINOOK SALMON STOCKING NEEDS FOR NEXT YEAR. In real terms, what this means is there will be NO PEN PROJECTS anywhere on the lake next spring and what few fish are remaining after the Salmon River stocks are fulfilled, will be spread out across all the other stocking sites around the Lake. That could be 5000 fish per site, it could be 1000 fish per site, it could be no fish at any other stocking site if all of the fish raised are needed to fulfill the Salmon River’s needs to ensure sufficient returns to the hatchery. There is still a small window to get this done before the salmon run is completely over for the year, but we need to act fast, every day this action is delayed is one less opportunity to take the needed eggs from other sites. Thanks, Tim Bromund LOTSA
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