lumberjohn

4 hours ago, Amylee said:

great glad for you and your son awesome!

we also had 2 screamers end of day pulling riggers and rods on late night we fish light to dark and it was dark carbon 14 25+ that hasnt happened in awhile.  Only getting better get out there! Cant wait to get back hopefully this weekend.

I'll be back up in Fairhaven Saturday giving it another go with my brother.

20 hours ago, greenhornet73 said:

Gotta love it, you never know when it’s going to happen but glad it finally did for you.  Can’t wait to get up there myself.  My lost landlock from last weekend on Owasco keeps calling me but if I can get up on the big lake soon it would be great.

Are they putting landlocked salmon in Owasco again? They used to years ago but I haven't caught any there in 20 years. Live on owasco.

Been itching to get out again after several earlier attempts in the season resulting in only Steelhead and browns. An hour north of Auburn and I'm launched in fairhaven. Set up at 1:30 p.m. and fish to 3:30 p.m. weather was iffy so we stuck in close which is where I believe the fish to be based on reports. Started trolling in 75 ft with riggers at 65 and 55. Worked 95 pretty good and that was the area I was marking the most fish. Worked out to 105 and back into 75. Decided 95 range was the best Target area and work that in the last hour. After 2 hours we had nothing to show for it and a storm was coming in from the west. Decided to pack up and told my 10-year-old kid to grab and pop the rods and bring up the downrigger. He just got the first rod in and put away when he was reaching for the second rod it popped and we had a screamer. Fish hit on the 65 down carbon 14 spoon. Fought that bugger for a half hour and every time it got close to the boat it would peel off line again. By this time we were in the storm and anxious to get out of there so I put maximum pressure on the fish hoping for the best. The kid netted it and lifted that 20-pounder into the boat by himself. We were soaking wet but happy as hell. Needless to say my boy is anxious to go at it again. Great memories!

Good report. Thanks 

Fished 2-6:60 PM. Set up in 100 fow and worked out to 150, concentrated 110-130 for hour & half. Picked up 6 lbs Brown 80/110 on Carbon 14. Shot out to 650 and fished way back in. Fished in temp down 160 back into 100-130 range. Greatest concentration of Mark's was 110-130.

Not sure exactly. I guess about 7 mi.

Fished from 2:30 - 8:30 PM, 1 rigger, 2 rods Carbon 14 spoons. Shot out to 400 to setup. Dropped the rigger down spaced 15 apart down 75. Water temp at ball 72. Yuck. Dropped ball to 125 temp 52. At 125/425 1st Steelhead. Trolled to 600. Picked up 2nd Steelie 180/550 down temp 42. Trolled into 300 and 200, pretty barren. Went into 130-100 began marking fish 55-100. Set up 80 down out of temp. 3rd Steelhead 80/130. Had 2 big rips 60 and 80 down over 110ish. Fishing alone, circus trying to get other line in and rigger up. Lost both.

Fished Owasco 7-8:30 PM. Caught this Rainbow 56/170, B&S J-11 Rapalla 35' back. Down temp @55' about 52 degrees. 

Got out for a little bit tonight from 6:00-7:30. Trolled 55 and 65 foot down over 70 and picked up a 3-pound rainbow on a black and silver J-11 Rapala 55 down. Water temperature 61F at 65 foot down trolling speed 2.3 mph.

5 hours ago, moonfish said:

I'm a nooby too trolling trout. I'm interested this year when the trout start pushing the shoreline and mouth, or in the river. I prefer in the river because I have a 14' Jon boat, river will be safer. So could you tell me what colors are best in the Gennessee river and size of spoons ? Smaller Suttons ? Not interested in salmon, just trout.

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I couldn't say for certain other than to tell you that the few times I've fished estuaries of Lake Ontario including the Genesee and at Fairhaven I have used casting spoons. Heavy weighted spoons like cast Masters and little Cleo's in combinations of silver and blue or silver and green. Typically when I did that it was in the springtime targeting brown trout.

Fished out of Genesee River on 9/10 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. and on 9/11 from 9:30 a.m. to 4:30 pm. Didn't get a single bite. Threw the kitchen sink at them from the spoons to Dodgers and flashers with flies or spoons and stick baits. Covered water from 70 ft deep out to 400. Everywhere seem to be 70 degrees from the surface down to a hundred. Marked a few fish here and there mostly in the 90 to 135 foot of water range. Waves were two to four, not many boats out there.

49 minutes ago, Low Baller said:

Where do you put the downriggers?

They clamped down on the bench seats of course silly rabbit!

15 hours ago, lyk2fish said:

Well had some vacation this week going into labor day but the weather and projects kept me off the lake until friday afternoon. Like with any day, I had to find them and I trolled till almost dark when I stumbled on some concentrated bait that was gonna set me up for Saturday morning. Saturday through today it produced big time with many silvers including a big brown which topped my largest of the year so far.....they are getting big, and when they bite you know it. Total program worked this weekend, Saturday was all riggers, couldn't fire a copper till the afternoon,  Sunday copper and core rules. Today was a mix.......white spoons were my go to this weekend. Temp tight at 50, speed was 2.4. Highlight was the last fish of the day for me today. Morning bite was good but the rain and wind shifts made it a slow afternoon. Rec boats started to come out and as I crossed my last point the rigger went screaming I mean like I caught it in the prop again kinda screaming.....had to put the boat in neutral,  got control, thought I had a big silver but was suprised with a 34 inch laker! Never had a laker run so much, definitely capped the weekend. Tight lines.

Very nice group of fish. How many feet of water were you working over?

Went out again today, 9/5 running the same program of J-11 black and silver jointed Rapallas. Marked fish all over the place but couldn't buy a hit.

Yes, the lake has dropped 2.5 feet and is back to reasonable levels.

Went out solo from 6-8 PM. Started at Long Point with a trout presentation of spoons in 170 to 100 feet of water. Cruised past Koenig Point to Burtis Point then switched to a walleye program. Put on 2 black and silver J11 jointed repallas down 40 to 55 feet. Picked up two walleyes 55 ft / 60 at 2.1 miles per hour down temperature 65 degrees. One 5 lbs, one 6 lbs. Caught on south side of Burtis Point.

I'm on Owasco and have done my share of late evening fishing. The salmonid bite seems to shut down around 8 these days. I have trolled at night for walleye around Burtis Point using Rappals with some success.

Got out with a crew of boys for an hour and a half troll from Long Point to Burtis Point 7-8 this evening. Hooked up on a 6-pound walleye at Burtis Point 35 down / 60. Mag silver spoon with purple and black tape.

Got out with a crew of boys for an hour and a half troll from Long Point to Burtis Point 7-8 this evening. Hooked up on a 6-pound walleye at Burtis Point 35 down / 60. Mag silver spoon with purple and black tape.

Wow! You caught quite the smorgasbord of fish. Great job.

Billy, that's right, east of the chute. We hit it last sunday and that is where we had and dropped our only hit of the day on a green monkey puke spoon. Last night we hit it again, coming in toward shore the depth goes from 80-60 fairly quick, then flattens out at 60 for quite awhile. It then drops into a bowl that was 80 at it's deepest before rising back to 60 for a bit then 50 and shallower. All our fish came on NK spoons that contained green out of this bowl. From offshore heading inshore it's roughly in front of the first bluff east of the swimming beach and somewhere between the western third of that bluff and just west of the end of that bluff.

Question for you. I've yet to have success using dipsey's and must be doing something wrong. How much leader behind the rubber snubber. I've tried 4' leaders with a spoon or fly, 4' leaders w/ a dodger and fly, recently my summer camp neighbor from PA who fishes a lot out of Fair Haven said you have to use a 10-14' leader so I've been trying that. Nada.

I closed out the walleye season on Owasco and set my sights on Ontario. First forray sunday on the water at 7:30 AM. Forecast was for 1-2 and waves were good 2-3. Set up in 100 and headed north. Worked 120-140 for awhile, then 170-180, then back shallower, then into 60-80 for Browns. Some pods of baitfish in the 50-80 range scattered and few fish marks. Did hook into a solid fish in Brown territory on a NK Green Monkey Puke 60/80 but dropped it. Wrapped up at !:30. Was running E-chip Dodgers and Spinnys w/ flies mostly in Green combos w/ some white and some purple combos on riggers 65-100 down . Ran dipsies as well 2.5ish 225-300 back. Also always ran a spoon off rigger around 35 down for steelies.

Tuesday got on the water 4:30 PM and set up in 120, dodgers/spin doctors w/ flies in green mostly down 72-82 w/ dipsey wire out and spoon on rigger at 35. Worked 130-140, moved out to as deep as 245. Mostly blank screen everywhere. Marked one pod baitfish all afternoon 65 down, few odd fish far and few between from 15 to 100, very few. Ran back into 120-140 for awhile. Picked up again and ran into 80 and set up a Brown program w/ all greenish NK spoons on riggers 35-60 down over 60-80. When we got into the bowl off the bluffs we started hitting them. First the green monkey puke fired 60/80, boated a 3# Brown. Then in the malay (sp?) while landing and netting and my 4 year old son steering the boat, we had another release on the rigger 60/50, junior had us going in circles. The fish jumped out of the water a few times way back, came to net a 4# pig of a smallmouth on a NK green/blue spoon. We no sooner got set up again in 60 fow and wham, wham a double. 50 and 60/60 on a green and an orange monkey puke. I dropped about a 7# Brown behind the boat at the net trying to land it one handed. Thus unencumbered I helped my partner landed a 5# Brown. Junior still having a ball driving the boat in circles. Looking at our trail on the GPS was a hoot. All this action came from 7:30-8:30PM. We stuck at it until 9:30 but it was over.

By the way, again waves were more than forecast. Forecast was 2 foot or less and were actually 1-3 feet with more at the top end. It did subside some at dusk. Point being always be prepared for worst than expected. In my small boat it matters. I'll be watching the forecast for my next shot at it.

I run 20# coated wire on my dipsey rods w/ Daiwa 47LC's $95 bucks at Bass Pro last week. I bought 1000 feet wire, Mason Nylo Strand .024 dia. $45 Bass Pro, and strung two reels w/ no backer and still have wire left over. Filled them up. One reel bought last week and bought 1000 feet Mason uncoated Multistrand .015 dia. $43 bucks Bass Pro, then found left over coated wire from last year. Bass Pro has cheaper line counter reels from Daiwa & Okuma that run $50. Difference is cheaper ones have brass gears (read soft metal) vs, bronze, one piece composite body vs. aluminum, no bearing system vs. 2 bearing system. Drag systems are different too. Get what you pay for. I use one meidum and one heavy downrigger rod that I had busted the tips off, accidentaly. I bought the twilly tips and superglued them on the tips and voila, dipsey rods. Work fine. I just haven't figured out how to catch fish on the system yet. I also bought a Heartland downrigger rod last year based on rec of Billy V and for $25-$30 @ Bass Pro you cant go wrong. Nice feel to the rod, I like it. I hate Flea Flicker line. Not because it doesn't work, it works great. I've run the #20 test on Owasco and Ontario and it does the job. What I don't like is the way it ties knots. Understand it is oval shaped, thus sheds fleas. Stick it in a pinch pad and it slips out too easy along the flat face of the line. Hard to tension the rod w/out pullout. Try to splice it w/ blood knot to a leader and it is a ****, cuts into or slips from other line. Trilene knots can break. Some on this site rec #30 Trilene Big Game, usually charters. I prefer lighter #25 and working well. Get some fleas but shed easy when slap line aginst water before hits tip. Fleas not bad this year due to cooler water vs. some past years. If your running blades and spinnys w/ flies then there's no point in running a lighter weight leader. What's the point. The test on those flies have to be 50lbs. If your running spoons naked than sure, tie in 30 feet of 15-20 lbs flouro. Fleas don't stick to whats running horizontal.

Maybe I'm an old timer if you consider I've been on this lake 20 nyears now. My boat has caught one 'eye during the day since stocking, and that was at dusk. I catch all my 'eyes at night from 12-3 AM from early June - early August along the shore during the mooneye spawn. Get a mess of big smallies then too. Gotta find your spots.

I heard you were out there yesterday Billy. It was pretty lonely out there, I only saw four other boats all day. A buddy and I started out at 100 fow at 7:45 AM sunday and never ventured further than 160. We ran an all dodger/fly rig and went 4 for 4 w/ 3 kings and one steelhead. Our first hookups were a double of kings. Landing them in my 18 footer while getting tossed in those 4' waves was some trick. It was a chineese firedrill. Everything for us came on green 50-65 down on the riggers over 100-120 fow. Green e-chip and green fly and Mtn dew e-chip w/ hammer flies did the trick. We were marking fish throughout the day with the occassional baitfish. It was a good day for us. It was my buddies first time salmon fishing on Lake O and he was impressed but a little concerned as those big swells reared up behind the boat.