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  1. 10 hours ago, Capt Vince Pierleoni said:

    Chinook Salmon* Spring Yearlings 1,161,568

     

    Got it Vince, Thanks

     

     

    11 hours ago, AnglingAddict said:

    Are the Atlantic numbers the typical long term stocking numbers?

    Altantic numbers seem to change every year with a big emphasis on Canadian numbers. The US stocks over 100,000 Atlantic salmon annually since 2011 into Lake Ontario and tribs.

     

     

     

     

     

    Rob    Another dumpster fire ??????????

    Image result for dumpster fire

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  2. Table 1. Anticipated lakewide (DEC and OMNRF) 2020 stocking for Lake Ontario.
    Species Life Stage Stocking 2020
    Chinook Salmon* Spring Fingerlings 1,161,568
    Lake Trout Yearling equivalents 601,600
    Rainbow Trout Spring Yearlings 755,700
    Brown Trout Spring Yearlings 556,755
    Atlantic Salmon Spring Yearlings 240,000
    Coho Salmon Fall Fingerlings 235,000
    Spring Yearlings 90,000

    3,640,623

     

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  3.  

    Additional Information for Anglers2020 Lake Ontario Stocking Decision Q: How will this stocking reduction impact fishing in 2020?

    A: The reductions being implemented in 2020 will have little impact on fishing in the near term as the fish that anglers will catch next year have already been stocked in the system. In addition, about 50% of the adult Chinook salmon in Lake Ontario are naturally reproduced or "wild" fish.

    Q: How will this impact fishing in the future?

    A: If alewife abundance continues to decline, the size of Chinook may decline, but angler success (i.e. catch rate) may remain high as Chinook salmon become more vulnerable to angling.

    Q: Are other fish species slated for reductions?A: Not at this time.

    Q: What are the actual numbers of fish being stocked?

    A: Even with these reductions, lake-wide salmon and trout stocking in Lake Ontario in 2020 will exceed 3.6 million fish, including approximately 1.1 million Chinook salmon, 755,000 rainbow trout/steelhead, 556,000 brown trout, 601,000 lake trout, 325,000 coho salmon and 200,000 yearling Atlantic salmon.

    Q: Why isn’t the stocking of other species of trout and salmon being reduced?

    A: While other trout and salmon species eat alewife, Chinook salmon consume the largest amount in the shortest timespan. Reducing Chinook salmon numbers provides the greatest reduction of alewife consumption in the short-term. Further reducing lake trout stocking is intended to provide more long-term relief, since they grow slower and live longer than Chinook salmon. Lake Ontario’s diversity of trout and salmon supports a world-class fishery, and managers want to maintain that diversity to the extent possible.

    Q: Will lake trout stocking cuts affect the lake trout fishery?

    A: No; these cuts will not result in measurable changes, if any, to the adult lake trout population or angler success for 4 - 6 years. The adult lake trout population is currently healthy.

    Q: Is the Province of Ontario also cutting stocking?

    A: The Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry continues to make stocking reductions commensurate with New York’s.

    Q: Do naturally produced fish contribute to the fishery?

    A: All trout and salmon species in Lake Ontario reproduce naturally to varying degrees, with Chinook salmon being the most successful. Fish produced via natural reproduction can contribute significantly to the overall population of Chinooks in the lake.

    Q: When will stocking numbers be increased?

    A: It is not possible to forecast when that might occur. Scientists from the US Geological Survey, Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry and the DEC will continue to monitor the status of the alewife population, sportfisheries, and Chinook salmon growth to assess the balance between

     

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  4.  

    DEC TO HOST ONLINE MEETING TO PRESENT 2020 LAKE ONTARIO CHINOOK SALMON STOCKING STRATEGY Changes Designed to Enhance Overall Benefits to Fisheries

    New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Basil Seggos today announced that an online public meeting will be held on March 18, to discuss changes in 2020 Chinook salmon stocking locations on Lake Ontario. These changes were developed in consultation with a focus group comprised of anglers and charter captains and are designed to maximize contributions of stocked salmon to sportfisheries. "DEC continues to apply the best available science to maintain the world-class status of Lake Ontario’s fisheries, which attract anglers from around the globe," Commissioner Seggos said. "These changes to our Chinook salmon stocking strategy will enhance survival of stocked salmon and improve angling opportunities." DEC’s stocking site allocations of salmon and trout are decades old and largely proportioned by shoreline miles within DEC’s administrative regions bordering Lake Ontario. This proportional approach does not take into consideration fish movement studies, the benefits of pen rearing, and other factors that affect the success of the stocking program, including angler preferences, fishing effort, and geographic and seasonal differences in fish distribution. DEC is currently working with the Lake Ontario Fisheries Management Focus Group, a panel of 16 anglers representing open lake and tributary fisheries, to modify trout and salmon stocking allocations to optimize the benefits of stocked fish to the overall sportfishery. In 2020, DEC will concentrate Chinook salmon stocking at fewer sites to enhance post-stocking survival and improve open lake fisheries overall. This strategy will also enhance New York State’s late-summer staging fishery and existing tributary fisheries in key locations. The online meeting will be held at 6:30 p.m., on Wednesday, March 18. Participants can use the following link to join the meeting: https://meetny.webex.com/meetny/j.php?MTID=m8e94b08c21e5ce9a816c88c5238c2725. Participants are directed to use the meeting number 647 538 274, password: Chinook2020.

    Upon joining the meeting, participants will be prompted to connect to audio using their computer. To connect to audio via phone, use the following call-in information: toll free number 1-844-633-8697 and access code: 641 790 213.

    Stocking information presented at the meeting will be posted on the DEC’s website the day of the meeting. Questions regarding this meeting can be directed to Steve LaPan, Great Lakes Fisheries Section Head, at 315-654-2147 or [email protected].

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  5.    An abundance of phosphorous highly concentrated in only a specific area  on Lake Ontario does not equal a healthy entire Lake Ontario water system, especially the  offshore/deeper majority of entire system '

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

       

     

    On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2020 at 1:47 PM, schreckstoff said:

    I thought so too until I looked at the phosphorus concentration data, which doesn’t really support that idea

     

  6. 2020 Nutrient downloads is brought to you by all the dredging of almost every western port this year and of course

    Toronto, which is located on Lake Ontario, is the most populous city in Canada and the provincial capital of Ontario. Toronto has an estimated population of 2.81 million in 2016. The greater census metropolitan area (CMA) has a much larger population of 5.9 million. 

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

    12 hours ago, LongLine said:

    Canadian law does not require periodic monitoring of effluent as US law does

     

  7. DEC Announces Adoption of 2020 Great Lakes Fishing Regulations

    Amended Regulations Help DEC Further Improve Great Lakes Fisheries and Build on Progress to Offer Excellent Year-Round Fishing

    New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Basil Seggos today announced the adoption of several fishing regulation amendments for New York's Great Lakes. These changes are designed to safeguard and expand certain fish populations while enhancing anglers' continued enjoyment of these world-class fisheries. Most of these regulations are a direct result of DEC's work with anglers during the past several years to identify desired outcomes for Lake Ontario sportfishery management.

    "DEC received comments from more than 550 anglers on our proposed regulations, and most were highly favorable, which reflects the importance of working with the fishing community to develop regulations that are protective of the resource and continue to offer quality fishing opportunities," Commissioner Basil Seggos said. "We greatly appreciate the public's support for our efforts to make New York's world-class Great Lakes fishing even better."

    The regulation amendments are effective immediately and include:

    • Increasing fishing opportunity by opening the Lake Ontario/Lower Niagara River lake trout season on December 1 (formerly opened on January 1). The season will be closed from October 1 through November 30, and is now consistent with Province of Ontario regulations;
    • Reducing the daily creel limit for rainbow trout/steelhead on the open waters of Lake Ontario (excluding the Lower Niagara River) to two fish per day to provide consistency with Province of Ontario regulations and help increase survival of steelhead, especially during periods of reduced fishing success for other species;
    • Decreasing the brown trout daily creel limit on Lake Ontario tributaries (excluding the Lower Niagara River) to one fish/day to maintain high quality brown trout fishing opportunities from fall through the spring;
    • Increasing the minimum size limit for rainbow trout/steelhead to 25 inches to prolong high quality rainbow trout/steelhead fishing opportunities through the winter months on Lake Ontario tributaries (excluding the Lower Niagara River). The rainbow trout/steelhead minimum size limit for the open waters of Lake Ontario and the Lower Niagara River remains at 21 inches; and
    • Eliminating unnecessary angling regulations on Spooner Creek and tributaries (Erie County) and the North Branch Clear Creek and tributaries (Erie County) from Taylor Hollow Road upstream to the outflow of Clear Lake by allowing fishing year-round.

    Details on these amended regulations can be found at DEC's website. Questions regarding these regulations can be directed to [email protected] or Steve LaPan, Great Lakes Fisheries Section Head, at: New York State DEC, P.O. Box 292, Cape Vincent, NY 13618.

  8. 22 hours ago, UNREEL said:

    We were made aware of this several weeks ago at my I-Bay Fish & Game Club by a member who belongs to the Conservation Council. A letter was written with some specific examples of damage to Irondequoit Bay. We plan on getting as many of our 350 members as we can to forward the letter.

    I'll "try" and see if I can post the letter here as an example

    Kevin

     

    Kevin That would VERY HELPFUL.   And thanks for your time and effort also.

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  9. Picture Lake Trout after eating Mighty Taco       HAAAHA

    And the smell of a cup of worms left in your refrigerator for 3 years

     

     

    If we could produce and submit  a single response from the Lake Ontario United members that each of us could copy and send with an added story/experience of our own to more personalize the message, I believe more people would participate simply from the convenience and then our numbers could possibly have a little more weight.

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  10.       On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2020 at 8:19 AM, jimski2 said:

    "When the high ocean waters flood the New York City subway systems, then global climate change will wake people up."

     

    Don't you mean "again."  The subways flooded on a Nor'easter a few years back. 

     

     

     

    Don't YOU MEAN AGAIN AND AGAIN,        People did not seem to wake during the last "Global climate change" either

     

    The Great Lakes formed approximately 10,000 years ago, following the last glacial period, as ice sheets carved the lakes and the ice melted and filled the basins. The basins of Lakes Ontario, Huron, and Superior extend to below sea level; as such scooping-out could not have been the work of a river, it is attributed to glaciers.

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

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  11. They can be killed, every year they are. There is a NY State cap # we can only kill up to that number state wide per year. That cap # has been drastically lowered for NY State and the whole North East CAP # also.  So please if you take the time to send comments on this VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, include that you want to see the cap RAISED,( number of cormorants allowed to be killed per year).  Trying to include the damage they do to "Free swimming fish populations"

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  12. Now is the time for your voice to be officially heard. 

     

     

     

     

    Interior’s Fish and Wildlife Service Solicits Public Input on Cormorant Management

    1/21/2020

    Last edited 1/21/2020

    Date: January 21, 2020
    Contacts: [email protected]
    Vanessa Kauffman, 703-358-2138, [email protected]

    WASHINGTON – As part of ongoing efforts to address conflicts between double-crested cormorants and wild and stocked fisheries, the Department of the Interior’s U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) is announcing an advance notice of proposed rulemaking (ANPR) and soliciting public input on future management options. 

     

    “Balancing the protection of native wildlife with economic and human health needs is fundamental to effective management practices,” said U.S. Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt. “Today’s action starts the process of improving management and further reduces conflicts with double-crested cormorants throughout the United States.”

     

    Future management actions built on a strong biological foundation ensure cormorant populations are managed responsibly and in compliance with federal laws and regulations, while balancing economic development, human health and safety, endangered species management and other priorities. 

     

    “We are building long-term solutions for managing conflicts with double-crested cormorants under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act while maintaining healthy populations of this species,” said Aurelia Skipwith, Director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. “This effort, in collaboration with our partners, will ensure continued good stewardship of our natural resources.”

     

    In 2017, the Service completed an Environmental Assessment (EA) under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) evaluating options for issuing individual depredation permits to provide relief for aquaculture facilities experiencing direct economic losses from cormorants across 37 central and eastern states and the District of Columbia.

     

    The EA analyzed options for the issuance of depredation permits for cormorants where there is either significant economic damage to aquaculture facilities, significant damage to native vegetation, significant impact on a threatened or endangered species, or significant human safety risks. Upon completion of the EA on November 15, 2017, the Service began issuing permits to aquaculture facility managers and property owners across 37 central and eastern states and the District of Columbia. 

     

    This review did not include potential damage to recreational and commercial fishing by cormorants. Since the publication of the EA, the Service engaged stakeholders to assess the biological, social and economic significance of wild fish-cormorant interactions, and to identify a suite of management alternatives. 

     

    The Service is also currently working with tribes, state fish and wildlife agencies and other federal partners to assess comprehensive management options for cormorants across the United States.

     

    “With nearly 30,000 water surface acres across Arkansas used for aquaculture production, our fish farmers contributed $71.1 million to our state’s economy in 2017. However, the United States Department of Agriculture estimates double-crested cormorants cause more than $25 million in damage annually within the aquaculture industry. These birds have become the foremost antagonists of fish farmers. We need commonsense solutions that allow aquaculture producers to safeguard their fish from these predators,” said U.S. Sen. John Boozman (AR). “I applaud the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for responding to the need of aquaculture producers by increasing the amount of maximum allowable take of double-crested cormorants, and I look forward to working with the Department of Interior and USFWS to ensure we can find commonsense solutions to ease the burden for hard working Arkansan aquaculture producers.” 

     

    “Arkansans are experiencing the harmful impact of double-crested cormorants across the state. As one of the top aquaculture producers in the nation, Arkansas and its fish farmers are suffering millions of dollars in losses as these avian predators consume critical inventory,” said U.S. Sen. Tom Cotton (AR). “I am glad the Department of Interior is taking this problem seriously and hope that further progress will come swiftly.”

     

    “Bird predation costs producers millions of dollars every year.  I applaud the Department of the Interior for taking this important step to help aquacultures producers address those losses,” said U.S. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (MS).

     

    “The double-crested cormorant has been detrimental to Mississippi’s catfish farmers,” said U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker (MS). “I am pleased that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is taking this issue seriously and is considering options to allow aquaculture producers to manage the populations of these predatory birds that are destroying fish populations.” 

     

    “I am pleased to see the Department is moving forward in the rulemaking process for the depredation of double-crested cormorants. This is a desperately needed next step for Michigan’s First District, where over-population is threatening the health of our free swimming and recreational fisheries,” said U.S. Rep. Jack Bergman (MI-01). “I am grateful the Administration has committed to this process to ensure a long-term and effective management plan for Northern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula.”  

     

    “I am pleased with the efforts and action by U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) to increase the allowable take of double-crested cormorants. This is a necessary step to mitigate more than $25 million in annual damages to the catfish and aquaculture industry,” said U.S. Rep. Michael Guest (MS-03). “I’m supportive of this proposed rule, which will have a positive impact on Mississippi’s catfish industry, and I will continue to work with FWS to promote Mississippi’s aquaculture needs.”

     

    “Science has consistently proven that managing cormorants is necessary to protect not just aquaculture but fishing as well. I applaud the administration for listening to input, increasing the take and promoting sound scientific practices,” said U.S. Rep. Bruce Westerman (AR-04).

     

    “Double-crested cormorants can pose a significant threat to American aquaculture. The American Farm Bureau Federation is pleased to learn that the Department of the Interior is moving forward to help provide farmers the necessary management tools to prevent double-crested cormorants from preying on farm livestock,” said President of the American Farm Bureau Federation Zippy Duvall.

     

    “The strong return of double crested cormorants is a significant conservation success. But in the absence of natural predators, cormorants are inflicting substantial depredation on both private and public aquatic resources. This effort by the Fish and Wildlife Service is necessary and appropriate to maintain a healthy ecosystem," said Former Director, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Dale Hall.

     

    Public scoping for the rulemaking process will begin with the publication of the ANPR in the Federal Register on January 22, 2020, and will continue for 45 days until March 9, 2020. To promulgate a proposed rule and prepare a draft environmental review pursuant to NEPA, the Service will take into consideration all comments and any additional information received on or before that date. You may submit written comments by one of the following methods. Please do not submit comments by both. We do not accept email or faxes.

    • Electronically: Go to the Federal eRulemaking Portal: Follow the instructions for submitting comments to Docket No. FWS-HQ-MB-2019-0103.
    • By hard copy: Submit by U.S. mail or hand-delivery to Public Comments Processing, Attn: FWS–HQ–MB–2019–0103; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Headquarters, MS: JAO/1N, 5275 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22041–3803.

    The Service seeks comments or suggestions from the public, governmental agencies, tribes, the scientific community, industry or any other interested parties. Areas for consideration include but are not limited to: potential reporting and monitoring strategies of cormorants by states and participating tribes; impacts on floodplains, wetlands, wild and scenic rivers or ecologically sensitive areas; impacts to other species of wildlife, including endangered or threatened species; and impacts on prime agricultural lands. Please see the Federal Register notice for more details.

     

    The Fish and Wildlife service will post all comments on regulations.gov, including any personal information you provide. The Service will hold public scoping meetings in the form of multiple webinars in February 2020. 

     

    More information about the rulemaking process, cormorants and meetings, including how to register, can be found here.

     

  13. DEC Announces Adoption of New Deer and Moose Feeding Regulation

    Measure Prevents Unnecessary Feeding of Wild Deer to Prevent Spread of Disease and Other Negative Effects on Wildlife and Habitat

    New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Basil Seggos today announced the adoption of a regulation to reduce problems caused by wildlife feeding and establish strict procedures for the use of tick-control devices designed to treat deer. Prohibiting the feeding of wild deer and moose is a best management approach to reduce risks associated with communicable wildlife diseases like chronic wasting disease, minimize conflicts with deer, and protect wildlife habitat.

    “Feeding deer and moose can artificially increase populations and change behavior, causing harm to people, wildlife, and the environment,” Commissioner Seggos said. “These new requirements strike a necessary balance between preventing the negative effects of deer feeding while recognizing the increased public health threat posed by tick-borne diseases and make an exception to allow the use of certain devices designed to kill ticks on deer.”

    DEC first prohibited deer feeding in 2002 in response to the threat of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) because concentrating deer or moose at feeding sites increases the risk of disease transmission. However, there are many other negative impacts associated with deer feeding that necessitate a broader regulation.

    Following a public comment period earlier this year, DEC adopted the new regulation to provide a clearer definition of what does and does not constitute illegal feeding of deer or moose. For example, the requirements provide exemptions for wildlife plantings, bona fide agricultural practices, livestock husbandry, and research and nuisance abatement actions permitted by DEC. It clarifies that incidental feeding such as the attraction of deer or moose to a birdfeeder will only be considered a violation if DEC has previously issued a written warning to the person responsible for the incidental feeding. This will allow nuisance situations to be appropriately addressed without limiting bird feeding in general.

    To reduce the sale and marketing of products that are illegal to use and to protect consumers from being misled, the new regulation requires retail products packaged for sale as food or edible attractants for wild deer or moose to carry a label clearly stating that such use is illegal in New York.

    The regulation also establishes procedures for the legal use of 4-PosterTM Tickicide and devices used to dispense it. 4-PosterTM Tickicide is a pesticide registered by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and DEC to kill ticks on deer. It is dispensed via four rollers, or “posts,” attached to bait stations filled with corn. As deer eat the corn, the rollers deposit pesticide on their heads and necks. In parts of New York with high tick-borne disease rates, there is considerable public interest in using these devices. The application procedures and permit issuance conditions specified in the new regulation are designed to allow such use while limiting negative impacts of deer feeding on the surrounding community and environment.

  14. DEC Announces New Law that Permanently Allows Use of Additional Hunting Implements for Big Game Seasons in Orleans County and Portions of Broome County

    The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) today announced that Governor Andrew M. Cuomo recently signed a law permanently adding rifles to the list of implements authorized for big game hunting in Orleans County and a portion of Broome County west of the Susquehanna River. Rifle hunting for big game in these areas was operating under a law set to expire on Oct. 1, 2019, but the recent legislation now makes it permanent.

    The newly signed law allows pistols, rifles, crossbows, longbows, muzzle-loaded firearms, and shotguns to be used during the big game hunting regular season in these areas of the Southern Zone, which takes place between Nov. 16 and Dec. 8 this year.

    The new law continues helpful reforms taking place to support Governor Cuomo's NY Open for Fishing and Hunting Initiative that aims to improve recreational opportunities for hunters and anglers and to boost tourism activities throughout the state. This includes streamlining fishing and hunting licenses, reducing license fees, improving access for fishing, and increasing hunting opportunities in the state.

    The number of hunting-related incidents have declined dramatically in the last several decades, and every incident that does happen can be avoided if hunters follow the laws and basic rules of hunting safety. DEC encourages hunters to use common sense this season and remember what they were taught in their DEC Hunter Education Course.

    Firearms Safety:

    1. Point your gun in a safe direction;
    2. Treat every gun as if it were loaded;
    3. Be sure of your target and beyond; and
    4. Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

         

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

  15. King Hunter you are spot on here.  While the Canadian side is Documenting, studying, and has clipping King project (Port Credit-Ganaraska experiment study) ECT ECT ECT...…..  The USA side continues to discuss and hypothesize about predator/prey ratios and what is  happening  to our king sizes here and what actions to take or not take. With technically just over half the kings in Lake O  naturally produced,  The Canadian side is the Unofficial production grounds. The Naturals are protected in Canada every season with hefty fines and a culture of everyday sportsman and woman watching over this. Also not much if any bickering between Stream guy's and lake guy's. They are a united front, please google ONTARIO FEDERATION OF ANGLERS & HUNTERS. Over 100,000 members strong !!! Strength and $$$ & VOTES are in numbers.

     With over 700+ stream-rivers-creeks on Lake O,  over 400 are in Canada.      " Most of the north shore rivers and creeks get a run of salmon; some of them produce naturals"  AND   "They run up all the tributaries without any dams, right into the headwaters which are always cold, clean and flowing"   these  King Hunter statements sum it up.     

     Now  YES there is natural production on the US side but with a more of a "pay to play" combo free for all style on our waters .On the USA side here are just some example of the OVERWELMING majority of potential waters and their potential limitations to producing major Natural contributions consistently,  other than the proven Salmon river  Niagara river= Niagara Falls...  18 mile = Burt dam..     Oak Orchard = Dam...    Genesee River= Falls..   ECT  Heck most years we can only pen rear our salmon for just a few weeks because of the non conducive high water temps at some pen sites in early spring time.

     

    More meetings/conference call discussions are taking place to come up with a plan/direction of this fishery.

    I would like to start another topic and get everyones feed back on what we should recommend on King #'s for 2020 stocking numbers

    1   stay status quo 1 more year (wait and see current data)

    2   get some/certain % back

    3   Restore most if not all of the -%20  & -%20

     

     

    Jerry

    RUNNIN REBEL

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