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  1. I have always been a hopeless optimistic, so this thread is killing me because you all make such great points. Vince, Davey, Chad and some others - you guys are spitting out views I never even thought about. This is GREAT stuff, though I admit all this info I apparently lacked has me feeling a little lake dumb at the moment   :)  


     


    So as I let this all process, my optimism for Lake O fishing next season is beginning to wane. Are you kidding me right now ? That's not how I want to spend my off season :shake:  I spend every winter PUMPED for the following spring like a little kid looking forward to Christmas.


     


    I witnessed all the same things the rest of you did this year. I did NOT know about the YOY alewives and now catching all those 1 yr old salmon makes much more sense. That year class obviously took a big hit this season and are in all likelihood not in great shape going into the winter.  The 2 yr old class of Chinooks helped fill a void as we searched for mature kings and after a great spring they started to vaporize. Steelhead were also sparse this season and that was apparent from the OOO right on through the season from one end of the lake to the other.   IMO, Steelhead survival was sub par as I found them extra difficult to revive with many going belly upon release despite my efforts to revive. I contributed this to the deep temps we experienced this season pushing the fish deeper and lengthening the battle once hooked. I did not cull a single steelhead this season, though I may have killed many.


     


    The brown trout saved me this season and I became much more efficient at catching them and that's what I personally took away from the 2015 season. I even targeted lake trout a couple times this season. Like many I was forced out of necessity to fish a different species and new waters this season and now I have that experience and knowledge moving forward. That my friends is what I live for. Being forced out of a comfort zone to explore new adventures. The old when life gives you lemons theory. 


     


    I am not putting bass rods on the boat just yet, but I do see the next couple years as a potential grind and the experiences gained over these past two seasons will certainly pay dividends. I never had a skunk on my boat this season (or last season for that matter), though I did have a raccoon once   :lol: .  Lake Ontario ALWAYS has something to offer and perhaps seasons like this are necessary to teach us to diversify. I just hope I'm not forced to fish lake trout next year, or the bass rods might become a reality.


     


    Keep up the awesome thread my friends, this is the best read on LOU in years !!


  2. I tend to agree with Rich. It's kinda funny how opinions differ on something like marking fish. Lol. I marked a crazy amount of what I felt to be kings last time out, while guys in the same port said they had blank screens.

    I have total faith in my ff. However getting them to bite was a **** !

    We will know soon enough.

    Fish or not, it was a great season because I can never get enough of this lake :)

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  3. Chad, the bait was here during the Pro Am in Sodus thick as it was all year,. It was piled up in the brown trout waters. Can't remember seeing more bait than I did this year.

    In the end, maybe we needed a couple years like this ? I had a west coast buddy who fished with me. He said on the Pacific side they are happy with one salmon. Two or three is very exciting to them. He caught 11 with me and couldn't understand why I kept trolling while battling a fish. Lol. He thought we were spoiled and greedy.

    He may have been right.

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  4. Get it Nick !!

     

    Nice going Tim !!   If ya don't have a red skateboard pulling a green fly out in Aug/Sept. you aren't really fishing stagers lol.

     

    I recall that being one of the first things I learned back when I had a seasonal slip in Oswego. Definitely a rig that gets a lot of water time and puts staging kings in the cooler !!!

  5. Some guys I know are hitting them hard in Mexico and Oswego.  Troll east maybe and fish where the fish are  ?  lol  Let's face it,  the Salmon, Genny, Oswego, and the Niagara rivers are going to draw the majority of the staging fish this time of year.

     

    LOVE Sodus and proud to call it my new summer home away from home but it's as if the Salmon took the alternate route to their destination this season.  But.....only takes one so good luck this weekend !! Wish I was there.

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     I do know however that during the mid to late eighties and during the first part of the nineties the fishing was way beyond what it is today in that area and the fishing techniques were quite primitive and potentially less productive by today's standards too

     

    Good luck Les.  Hope you get a few  :yes:

     

    As you do,  I remember years when fishing was much easier, but did we have this much bait lake wide those years ?  I can't answer that. Simple logic would support that even a fraction less food in the system would make fishing easier and raise angler harvest rates. Too many alewives in the system right now IMO, but that's just my opinion and the wife has said half the time I'm clueless and the other half of the time I'm sleeping  :)

     

    Either way, last time out I took this pic of the screen I was fishing in Sodus and I had the same screen all day until around 2pm. Then I lost it until it came back around 6:30 pm.  It's bait with fish in the bait having a buffet. That pic was taken at 12:30 in the afternoon.  Many bait pods were much larger and my screen was rarely blank. 

     

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    Hopefully all hell breaks loose soon. Good luck out there tomorrow Nick !!

     

     

     

     

    Hey guys not to change the subject but in the readings above I have a question. When salmon are stacked up like they were out by Henderson then they disappeared, the temp was 70* from top to bottom in 120 FT do you guys think they went back out to colder water of did they make the trek towards the Black RIver. Do they have a biological time clock that tells them when to make the run towards the river or can they wait till the conditions are right for them. The reason I ask is my uncles were up all week bass fishing and were on the Black River and didn't notice any activity. So they were there and now there not, what's your take on this. Thanks pap. 

     

     They either moved out just a little or more likely they are laying on the bottom. They will tolerate warm water right now, but I wouldn't expect them to do much short of laying on the bottom except before the sun pops up. I can't comment on if any have run the black, but I know there have been small runs in the Salmon river.

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    Hmmm Rod I see your point, but I think there is the other side of the coin...

    If there's a fishermen reading these reports and it allows him to make the decision not to drive the 3+ hrs to the lake, take vacation, spend money on a hotel, etc and allows him to chose to fish a different weekend, then that is good. Most folks are not like us and able to get up here multiple weekends a month. If nothing else, they may see the East end fishing is tough and go to the West end instead.

     

     

     

    Absolutely agree Nick,  I was in no way referring to your reports OR suggesting we as a whole should not report bad days as well as good days. IMO reports should reflect current trends and conditions without bias and with integrity and honesty. If it's tough, it's tough and we all want to know that so it's great you and others are willing to report both the good AND the bad.

     

    What I AM saying is I see a lot of good folks blaming the DEC, etc suggesting the fish should be here and therefore something is amiss......as if the fish run by a date on a calender.  None of us really know exactly what the heck is going on but the one thing most of the better fishermen all agree with is that the fish population lake wide is healthy! Those numbers will likely be confirmed sometime this fall.

  8. It's spotty, but fish are being caught. Not by everyone and those catching have a good day followed by a bad day. Plenty of fish are "being marked" but it's far from easy as has been the case in other ports as well.  With that being said, it can turn on at any given moment and by the time you read the report it's over so ya gotta be out there and give it a go.

     

    If your boat is up to it, adults are still being caught in 600 fow along with younger year classes and that water is easier to keep rods moving. The inside stuff of 150 and in will hold plenty of matures but they have been a tough bite for many and it's best very early. Once the sun comes up you really need to work hard on those inside fish and you may endure long periods without a hit but just keep changing stuff out and work it but don't leave them once you find them. 

     

    Have fun !!

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