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Wish I had some pics of lake O during this storm 

Wind speeds in upstate New YorkThe fastest recorded wind gust was 78 mph at Watertown International Airport in Jefferson

That would be a huge loss to the salmonid fishery on LO  year after year I have watched the decline in the pacific salmon program. The DEC made it known years ago , their focus is on restoring native species to LO. That means LT yuk   I’m getting out less these days due to my age  , but I’m glad I was around for the hay day in the 80’s and 90’s   A box of 30+ kings was common then  this new stocking program , using natural reproduction as a guideline for hatchery smolts , I’m afraid will be a boom or bust , year after year 

4 hours ago, Gill-T said:

I am sure we will hear next on this thread about how Lake Trout are Democrats fault. 

They sure smell and have lots of slime like democrats 😝 

This is not about conservation laws   The DEC is hamstrung by treaties with indigenous peoples.  They can fish anywhere, anytime and using whatever methods they choose. These treaties go way back and can’t be overturned without both sides agreeing. And I doubt that the Indians are about to give up 

Look at those red belly. They have been laying on the bottom

Fished the trench today. Got to the launch at Henderson at 0630. Only boat in the parking lot  never seen that before  past years I’ve had to park up by the road   Marked fish ( not wall to wall )  very few boats fishing. Was slow slow. Caught a whitefish on meat  , dragged it around for a while before checking gear. Ended up with 2 LT and - whitefish.  Not great   

It has nothing to do with the derby or the officials that run the derby. They require everyone on the boat be registered in said derby to eliminate the guys who would enter one name and fish with 2or3 hitchhikers. The split is between the fisher people on the boat. A written agreement is the only safe bet. There are times I fish with someone I barely know. Why take a chance ?

It can be a real can of worms 🪱. I fished with a guy in the LOC years ago  there were 2 of his family members ,him and myself in the derby. A couple of days the four of us fished and a few it was only he and I. We had a board fish that was caught with just the two of us fishing that day. His idea of fair was he and his two family members got 25% each ( 3/4 of the purse ). Wait , what ??  They weren’t fishing that day    I said nfw. Haven’t fished with him since.  I voted for a 50/50 split and that’s the way it was   If you’re not on board when the winning fish is caught  you lose  I will only fish derby now with written agreements 

I don’t see any legal recourse if there is no written agreement between the people involved. The guy that entered the fish , sans said written agreement , gets the cash 

Wave forecasts have NEVER been accurate enough to plan a trip around. I’ve spent many mornings sitting at Mexico Pt or Oswego watching the waves break over the walls when the prediction is 1-3 footers   Experience had taught me to add 1 ft to ANY prediction. If it says 1-3 , count on 2-4.  That said I’ve gotten to the launch and found flat seas.  Bottom line   What you see is what you get 

I went to my GLS220 from a 20 ft cuddy and have never looked back. It’s way safer and more comfortable on LO   The only downside is , it’s much harder to single hand. Launching and retrieving can be a challenge solo   But that’s a price I’m willing to pay 

2 hours ago, SmokeyNBandit90 said:

What app is this

The wrong one

1 hour ago, java said:

Today looks good!

Better rethink that 

W 27kt
9ft

High: 70 °F
Water: 72 °F

Just don’t ever forget what LO can become , and very quickly. This is an actual pic taken at Oswego harbor  27 ft waves on the lake 

I went out solo on Thursday, waited till 7 Orr the weather service advisory for clearing. NOT. Dodged thunderstorms  and waterspouts for an hour then it started to clear. Went out to 190 first thing  not much on the sonar temp was 50 at 91 ft   worked my way in shallower and at 140 ft if water off the dunes the temp was 42 at 91 ft  started marking bait and fish. Had a good one on for 5 minutes, hook pulled. Got a look at her , in the low 20 ‘s   Landed a skippy and that was it for me. Stayed out till 3:30  getting too old for this solo stuff 😝 

10 hours ago, Silver Fox said:

I couldn’t believe nobody was out.

Better safe than sorry. CG has enough to do 

Don’t you love it when people cancel at the last minute ?  happens way too often. 

1 hour ago, Traveling Circus said:

Fall 2000 LOC Salmon results....... 20+ kings entered over 35 lbs.

My son and I were in the derby. We took a 28# 6oz  king to woodies and she just laughed. 😝 

5 minutes ago, show me the money said:

Any reports today , didn’t make it out today will try tomorrow am 

Doubt if anyone is out. Small craft advisory and severe thunderstorm warning 

Haven’t been out in a few weeks due to a bout of pneumonia. Last outing in June , no problems   Stay between the bouys  don’t wander port or starboard till you are past the outer sea bouys.  There are rocks in Shallow water on both sides. They will eat your prop   Stay trimmed up. Wouldn’t even try with an inboard 

1 hour ago, marinecrafts said:

A lot of boaters do NOT know the rules of the road and forcing us to get a boating license will not change how some people pilot their boat.

That’s exactly why we have a mandatory boater course in NY. It’s hard to follow the rules if you don’t know them. If I had a say EVERYONE who operates a vessel would take the CG 18hour boating course  

I’ve seen reports that LO kings are spawning at 3 yo instead of 4 yo. That could account for the smaller size. They are missing a full year of growth. I second the motion that we should bring in fresh pacific chinooks to strengthen the gene pool   But with the DEC mindset to restore the native fishery, I doubt we will ever see new pacific stock introduced 

10 minutes ago, steelhead'r said:

In six weeks a traffic jam will start at the pier heads. Just a reminder to larger boats, be courteous to the small boat fishermen. 

All vessels, regardless of size must obey the rules of the road 

29 minutes ago, Shakemsam said:

Been on both side of this one, more than a few times. Still, nothing compares to running flat lines in the early ESLO days out of Rochester. Between the casual boaters that had no idea what we were doing and the sail boaters....

That brings back memories. The ESLO derbies in the’80’s   There were many times the number of boats out there in those days. And the conflicts were spectacular 😝 and big prizes    and planer boards and long lines were few and far between. I’m not sure I ever saw a planer board in those days.  Squid 🦑 ( hoochis) and dodgers were the lures of choice. Thanks for the memories 

I get what everyone is saying. BUT , some fisherpeople are determined to run 400 -500 ‘ longlines and planer boards out 150’ on each side. In traffic that’s a recipe for lost tackle  I think asking for 300 yards (  900 ‘ ) clearance is being a little optimistic. It’s not just you and the boat crowding you. He may have traffic coming up that you can’t see. I try to give everyone a FAIR amount of space. The key word is FAIR. Don’t ask for 300 yards. You won’t get it