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Right on !! The sonar  (distance finder ) is showing your weight distance from the transducer  it will only show the true depth of your weight if you are stopped and the cable is straight down.  Any angle on the cable will lessen the depth of the weight , but it will still show the actual distance from the ducer , not the true depth it’s running.  A fish 🐟 will show actual depth because you are passing over it ( arches)   If it was attached to the boat , the same rule would apply  the distance would be shown  not the actual depth 

A fish hawk is an eye opener. It takes all the guess work out of the equation 

1 hour ago, java said:

Received my cache from Fat Nancy’s today! Joining the meat squad this month. I fish solo with two rigger rods and a dipsy. Thoughts to get me on track? Sounds like tuning can be challenge 1…

You definitely have the right colors. Always my go to   Chartreuse glow. Go get ‘em

Here’s more :

Read More: New York Lawmakers Consider Ban on Fishing & Hunting Tournaments | https://bigfrog104.com/new-york-lawmakers-consider-ban-on-fishing-and-hunting-tournaments/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

Another potential attempt to end tournaments. It’s about hunting for the moment, but you can be sure peta and their friends will work hard to include fishing 

https://www.wrvo.org/politics-and-government/2023-07-20/new-york-considers-ban-on-cash-prize-contests-for-hunting-coyotes-squirrels-some-other-wildlife

14 minutes ago, Bozeman Bob said:

I do not care how many feet of cable are let out or what the downrigger line counter shows . In my case , when the ball shows up on the screen at whatever depth , I go by that reading . No geometry needed .

Carry on 

1 hour ago, Bozeman Bob said:

So when my FF shows 100' and it shows my weight at 100 ,  how come I'm hitting the bottom ? Must be a optical dillusion, dam I hate when that happens . 

Maybe at 1/2 a knot   Any angle on the rigger cable will decrease depth reached. I’ve had to let out 150’ of cable to reach 100’ of depth when a current is running and the angle on the cable is over 15°   Pure geometry 

You are so right. I’ve been trying to get people to understand this for years. Thank you !! 

2 minutes ago, greenhornet73 said:

If fishing the “trench” just be aware of the contour changes since it drops off quickly along it.  You could lose a rigger weight if you aren’t paying attention.

Been there done that. Along with a probe 

“ the trench “ is between Stony point and Stony  island.  If you have a chart  or GPS you will see it clearly.  It can be great or it can be a desert  beginning of August should see fishing pick up in that area. Watch for charter boats and do what they’re doing. Downriggers are a must. It gets very congested because of the narrow nature of the trench , so use long lines at your peril   Good bass fishing along the high rocks by Whele state park. Good luck 

https://www.newzjunky.com/nysp-82-year-old-three-mile-bay-man-dies-in-boat-fire/

Cpt Dan Keating addresses this phenomenon in his books  along shore currents can pile up debris, out in deep water it usually means warm and cold water stack up and form the line usually along an upwelling of cold water ( warm and cold don’t mix well ). That’s why you can see the thermocline on your sonar. Debris sinks to the place where the temps meet and become visible on the screen  think of this as a vertical thermocline. Have seen it many times 

5-10 

5 hours ago, Fat Trout said:

Typically west as in off of the plant or west of the plant (ie radio tower).  Seems to be what Im hearing (currently) although its always variable and in summer (generally) scattered when out of mexico....sometimes good sometimes not.   Sometimes more north off of the south/north pond can be good....but when its not its a wasteland when not good (for salmon).  Regardless out of mexico can be a crap shoot in june/july just depending on unknowns and winds.  Sorry to be vauge, I'm a long time Mexico guy and it just is what it is.   Generally guys out of oswego do better in this time fishing a little east of there or having ability to go a bit west. 

Fat Trout hit the nail on the head  The Eastern basin of LO can be on fire one day and devoid of fish the next  Salmon are a pelagic fish and can move great distances overnight. They also move up and down in the water column following preferred temps and bait fish   Fishing in the Eastern basin is more like hunting than fishing. You have to find them to catch them. Later when the mature Kings start migrating east to their spawning grounds , they are more concentrated and not as apt to wander. 

The two year olds are what is available in the eastern basin at this time of year.  The matures will begin moving east in mid July 🤞 A 20’ difference in depth between cable counter and actual depth is not surprising. There are times I’ve let out 150 ‘ of cable to reach 100’  currents , wind , boat speed all contribute to blowback   Now that school year is over , I hope to get out more frequently. We did very well on browns inshore this spring  and a few nice walleyes in the mix 

That’s probably why the experts are looking into it  😝 

I use Shakespeare pl-259G coax connectors ( same used on vhf radios ) and pl-258 connector between them. The pl/259 is dependent on the size of your coax  I need 8x. I’ve used this system for years on cannon speed & temp and intellitroll. 
I have also used mason tackle coated cable forever. 300 ‘ spool of 150 # coated runs in the $50 range. There are cheaper connectors available on eBay and Amazon  can’t vouch for quality

Fat Nancy’s, all seasons , a-Tom-ick , fish307   All reputable dealers 

54 minutes ago, Pair of Jacks said:

Wrinkle star is spot on regarding appropriate weather watching for small boats.  Last year in May we spent a week on Henderson Bay with our 16 ft Tracker Laker DLX….we got about 21/2 days fishing as wind and T-storms cycled through the entire week.  Hence my repurchase/refit of my 1992 SeaRay 200OV into a FL/LO fishing platform.  Significant increase in stability and freeboard.  Safety first to ensure many days of fishing.

Good advice. LO is an inland sea and can’t be underestimated . Small boats are fine for inshore spring fishing , but later in the season ( like now ) , the fishing moves offshore and a 20 mile run to fish is normal. A seaworthy vessel is a necessity. It can go from calm to 6 ‘ waves in very short order. Ask me how I know 😝. A vhf radio is a life saving addition to your gear   

 It to mention the fact that June is a notoriously sloooow month in the eastern basin. LT aka mud chickens , will usually cooperate in 150 fow fishing cowbells and gambler rigs or spin n’ glows close to the bottom. Keep the speed below 2 mph  

There is a school of thought that the cable hum actually attracts fish  

2 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

From the pics I saw, it looked like big gizzard shad.  

That's exactly what they are   LO has a huge population of Gizzard Shad   The DEC needs to find out what caused this die off  

Here’s the rule 

Get Your Vessel Inspected

Regulations to prohibit bringing aquatic invasive species into Lake George began with the 2014 boating season and continue today. Vessel inspection technicians must inspect every trailered boat before entry into the water and decontaminate the vessel, if necessary. Once the boat has been inspected, it will receive the vessel inspection control seal (VICS). No boat will be allowed to launch without an intact VICS Seal. These rules apply to all 86 public and private launches, with a $500 fee for violators.

In addition, as of June 8, 2022, under new state law, if a DEC inspection station adjacent to a public waterbody in the Adirondack Park (which includes Lake George) is open for operation, boaters must have either a self-issuing certification or decontamination certificate from a DEC inspection station before launching into the waterbody.

Boat inspections take place at seven stations around the lake:

• Million Dollar Beach Launch: 139 Beach Road, Lake George, NY
• Dunham's Bay Dock & Launch: 2036 Bay Road, Queensbury, NY
• Huletts Landing Marina: 6068 Lakeside Way, Huletts Landing, NY
• Norowal Marina in Bolton: 21 Sagamore Road, Bolton Landing, NY
• Mossy Point Public Boat Launch: 158 Black Point Road, Ticonderoga, NY
• Rogers Rock Public Campground: 9894 Lakeshore Drive, Hague, NY

Note: The Transfer Road Inspection Station is now closed.

Everyone knows the phrase, "It is all fun and games until _____". On a populated lake, these sorts of situations can occur, and while everyone also knows the phrase "accidents happen", many unsafe situations can be easily avoided simply by being familiar with the rules.

Lake George is a unique lake, and therefore it has special laws that differ from other lakes in the region and in New York State. These laws are enforced by the Lake George Park Commission (LGPC) and the Warren County Sheriff's Department. A boater should not enter the water without first realizing some of the different rules that Lake George 

Why. I’ve used the same terminator for years with no issues. If you do decide to re-terminate , you can buy just the plastic part that the cable runs through from fish307 for about a dollar each  way cheaper than buying the whole terminator kit  

Oneida lake is connected to LO through the Oneida and Oswego river system. Hope this is a local die off and not some new environmental problem 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2023/06/what-killed-thousands-of-this-oneida-lake-fish-last-week.html?outputType=amp