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    Owasco Sunday FLTA

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    5 hours ago, adesalvo said:

    we ended up turning around and was able to net it before it swam back down

     

    Be careful... in many tournaments and likely NYS waters, that might be interpreted as an illegal fish. “Landing nets may be used in completing the catch of a fish hooked by angling“. 

     

    Doesn't look good for lake levels!

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    3 hours ago, reelintense said:

     


    HB2...


    ..... "Maybe a suggestion is a much more aligned monthly newsletter of exactly WHAT AND WHY things are done and calculated and measured and and and. Hard for humans to not question, if things aren’t articulated for why decisions may be being made. Just my humble observations.
    For what it’s worth. Thanks"


    Jason

     

     

     

    Where is Bill Reilich on this, ??!!??  After all, he was appointed as a "voice" for the southern shoreline property owners and business interests. He should be able to provide background and timely information on IJC actions/decisions:  https://www.ijc.org/en/ijc-appoints-greece-town-supervisor-bill-reilich-its-international-lake-ontario-st-lawrence-river  

     

     

    Anyone using meat rigs on cayuga?

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    6 hours ago, Fishstix said:

    Long ago we used to use a rig called Hemlock spinner. You would get what we called a mooneye bait fish.With the bait whole you had a rod you poked down thru the mouth and out the end . A treble hook on the end with a couple spinners in the front. Trolled very slowly near or at the bottom.   I dont think Ive ever seen it mentioned on this board..  I may still have a rig or maybe they still make them Im not sure. Perhaps Sk8opedia could chime in on this.

     

    The Hemlock Spinner was often used as the "2nd line in" by by copper pullers...  

    Hemlock spinner.jpg

    Dumb Question

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    12 minutes ago, Reel Doc said:

    After reading the article it makes me wonder if the 600 plus depths in parts of Seneca Lake never or rarely turnover......

    In the larger Finger Lakes, there is minimal to no mixing below ~100'-120' in depth. The warming/mixing/turnover does not occur, with those depths and below remaining at 39 degrees, water's greatest density. Individuals who drown in waters of 120'+ rarely surface due to very slow decomposition and no mixing.

     

    Dumb Question

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    I think two different phenomenon are being confused in this discussion: "Upwelling" vs "Turnover". Upwelling is quite evident on Lake Ontario, where as an example, a strong persistent southerly wind can push warm upper depth water offshore, to be replaced by cold water from greater depths. This also occurs in the Finger Lakes when strong North or South wind patterns prevail, just not as dramatic. The term "Turnover" is usually applied to lake water that is heating rapidly in late Spring, early Summer. As the warmer waters reach greater depths, there is a mixing or "turnover" of water that will precede stratification, thermocline formation. This happens quite prominently in our Finger Lakes. I am most familiar with the Canandaigua Lake cycle: by mid-June the "turnover" is apparent, most noticeable as decomposing fish (on the cold bottom) are elevated to the surface as decompostion/gasing accelerate due to warming/mixing/ turnover. A similar process occurs in the Fall... as surface/upper water cools, their density increases and begins to sink/mix with lower layers of water. For Canandaigua Lake, this process usually begins in early October, pushing the thermocline deeper as the processing continues. You may see nearly uniform temperature (~60 degrees) until depths of ~80 feet before a temperature break. This will continue until the water temperature reaches the mid to lower 50 degree range, when the fall mixing,"Turnover" completes and the thermocline disappears. This normally occurs for Canandaigua by late October. A likely better explanation: https://www.waterontheweb.org/under/lakeecology/05_stratification.html  

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