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    Father's Day Fishing

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Zebedee

    On 6/16/2019 at 3:37 PM, Reel Doc said:

    Finally had a chance to get on the water after a couple busy weeks.  All 3 of my high school/college age kids had to work today so was left to go solo but no regrets as glad they are willing to work some to help with college costs.  

    Launched from Dean's a little after six and headed North.  Surface water temp at 58.  The fog was super thick so set up in deeper water then worked back in 100-150 fow for the first half of the trip as nervous about the poor visibility with no copilot.  

    Flasher fly on the dipsey was attracting lake trout set at a 2 back 195-225.  One 29" fish really hammered it and somehow caused the mono leader to wrap around the wire above the dipsey.  Just as I was trying to net him along side the boat the wire snapped and he drifted back with fly, flasher, and dipsey.  :-(

    Fortunately, I had a rigger rod set on that side of the boat so purposely let the fish and dipsey get snagged around the line.  Reeled it up and managed to bring in the fish and the gear! :smile:

    That one was the big fish of the day with a 26" second place.  Both were beautifully colored native fish.  Wished I could take pictures but not enough hands coupled with the rain made it too tough to get done.

    Still have no clue how the mono managed to wrap around the wire above the dipsey..... anyone else have that happen?

    Once the fog started to lift worked in the 40-80 fow range but only found a few smaller lake trout hitting spoons.  

    The rain kept on most of the morning but it stayed warm enough with minimal wind so kept at it until 10 then decided time to get in and dry up a little.

    To all you Dads out there have a great Father's Day!!

    I lost two sets off the dipsey on Saturday fishing Lake Ontario.  The salmon were hitting and running past the dipsey and cut the leader between the leader and dipsey.  Lost two flashers, a fly, and a meat rig!  When we reeled them in there was about 12" of line past the dipsey the was frayed.  It was brand new 30# P-Line.  Can't remember that ever happening before so it's crazy it happened twice in one day!

     

    BTW...if the mono was wrapped around your wire line, there's a good chance you were letting it out too fast.  When you let them out fast, the dipsey tends to spin.

    Pulling copper

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    16 hours ago, Sk8man said:

    Although it can be done by the coiling in the bottom of the boat that method may not be the first or best to try with more than yourself and very few objects in the bottom of boat for starters. In the old days it was done that way pretty much out of necessity and often with a lot of swearing accompanying it:lol:. My grandfather fished that way  for lakers on Seneca back in the early 1900's out of a rowboat no less.with the old Geneva and Sutton spoons. The easiest modern method is to use either a victrola or an A and S automatic (spring loaded) reel. A drawback to the A and S is that it doesn't hold as much wire as a victrola but it is more compact and works well in 100  ft or less water. The spring in the A &S isn't as strong as most victrolas so the slack wire take-up can be a lot slower. Some victrolas have multiple springs (or strong singles) and others are even motorized so careful where your fingers are placed.

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    What's a "Geneva" spoon?

    Pulling copper

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    5 hours ago, Sk8man said:

    Matt take Larry's advice and have him actually show you. Although it is tempting to say that it is easy to pull copper (or jerk it) by someone very experienced with it that does not mean that "easy" is the same as being expert or even successful at it. Jerking copper successfully is really an "art form" when done effectively and there are a number of ways it can be done with good results by experienced people. Although at casual glance it may appear to be just a matter of letting your copper wire into that water and moving your arm or wrist, it actually is a complex set of things that need to be monitored and fine-tuned to make it  work effectively and consistently. Someone that has had a great deal of experience in fine tuning can go out there time and again and catch lakers....big lakers. Little nuances of movement combined with maintaining the right boat speed, combined with learning to "feel" the bottom structure is essential. Knowing the trout habits and bottom structure preferences is also important. Being able to discriminate the actual type of bottom is important as is maintaining the proper contact with the lure you are using on that bottom. Selection of the lure itself can be crucial to success. For example using a flatfish or twin minnow is quite different from using a heavy spoon such as a Pfleuger or one of its immitators, and that is different than a Sutton flutter spoon on a leader with a sinker suspended. below it. You have to be constantly assessing how much to let out to maintain the "tick tick" feel of the particular bottom you are going over and exactly what the particular lure you are using is doing down there and whether your boat speed is right. The exact motions with your arm or wrist makes all the difference in success and two people on the same boat with everything the same can and do have very different results because of it. All it takes is one instance of hanging up on bottom for giving you an appreciation for wearing a leather glove or cut out glove fingers on the hand used for pulling because under the wrong circumstances you could lose a finger. Of all the techniques in fishing this is the one that it is most critical to learn from demonstration by someone who know what they are doing. :smile:

    Matt here is an example of the lures I'm talking about:

     

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    Always so impressed with your responses!  It's awesome to have your experience on this board!

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    Memorial Day Big Fish Friday-NORTH END

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Zebedee

    BIG Fish Friday, May 24th

     

    Where: Stivers Marina (We'll meet in the parking lot between 96A and the railroad tracks (See picture).

     

    $20

     

    Winner Take All!!!

     

    Fishing starts at 5 am and weigh-in will be at 4 PM.

     

    Trout and Landlocked Salmon only.

     

    Seneca Lake only.

     

    Trolling? No problem

     

    Drifting? No problem

     

     

     

    Who's In?

    1) Zebedee (Jason)

    2) DJH (Dan)

    3) cdgn troller

     

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