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We run 4 ounce torpedo divers off our boards. 15 pound braid on the reel, 8 foot 15 pound fluoro leader. Let the spoon out 30 feet, clip on the diver. We start with the outside rod out 90, next rod out 60, inside rod out 30 and see which rods go. Will go to the next size up torpedoes if the fish move deeper. This works great until the fleas start, then you can’t run the 15 braid. We run 3 riggers with spoons or flashers, depending on what the fish want.

Does any one carry whole green label herring? Woodys has nd herring but they are small.

Fished West of the bay in 60 to 130 fow.  8 color lead core and 4 ounce torpedo divers on the boards, SSW, die hard and carbon 14 early, then UV green and blue warriors when the sun got up. Cut bait behind green Dalmatian spinny on the riggers, 45 to75 down. Ended up with 12 kings, 2 steelhead, 1 laker and a 12 pound Atlantic, done at 11:00. Unbelievable fishing, lots of bait in 30 to 60 fow. If you haven’t tried the torpedo divers on the boards, you should, 30 foot 15 pound test leader, clip on the diver, let out 60 to 90 feet of 20 pound spectra, clip in planer release, run out on board, easy. I don’t have the coin to have 10 lead core rods and this is a way to cover the same water with your normal line counters.

Where can I get minion flies.

What is a 72 monty combo

Fished Fair Haven this Saturday, most of the action was in 180 to 200 for us. Fleas not bad at all. The Red (Sockeye) salmon in the pacific northwest are filter feeders. I wonder if they would eat these spinney water fleas. If so it may decrease the number of fleas and give us a great eating addition to the fishery.

I have fished the St. Lawrence for the past 5 years. We catch walleyes in 35 to 70 feet of water with jigging spoons and worm harneses after dark. These walleyes are just full of gobies. The last 3 years I have dragged a gobie on a 3 way swivel rig, with and without spinners and have never had a touch, while catching fish on spoons and worms. It's just strange. Walleyes are a weird creature.

JTT you are right on with what you are saying. A friend of mine ran the walleye program for the state for years and said the reason the walleyes are the size they are in Oneida is there is very little food for them for the first 4 to 5 months of the year. This makes them easier to catch but retards their growth. He says the gobies will increase their growth rate but make them harder to catch. Schwartz, your drift sock must be laying on the bottom right next to mine, it might be too rough to fish if you break the rope to your drift sock!

Fished Oneida 6/16, 17 and 18. Caught 13 on the 16th and 17th with only 5 keepers each day. Most of the shorts between 14 and 14 3/4 inches. Other age classes mixed in. Blue/chrome #9 jigging raps did most of the damage in 31 to 34 feet of water, clown was good too. Fishing slow on Sunday for us. I did catch my personal best Oneida walleye @ 24 inches and a fenwick rod with a shimano reel, not in the lake long, cleaned up nice. Good fathers day! Thinking those 14 to 15 inch shorts should be legal soon!

Recently there has been talk of guys seeing big schools of bait and fish near the bottom in 200 plus feet of water. Could these be the deep water ciscoes the feds stocked a few years ago? Has anyone dropped down 200 plus after these fish? They have been fishing 250 plus in Michigan for a while now but I don't have the gear to do it.

Thanks for the info., had read about the problems at FLT. Too bad, great spoons.

Can't seem to find these spoons anywhere. So I am going to try to replicate some. Cannot seem to find a good description of one. Does this spoon have a sliver or glow back and is the front black or dark metallic green? Any help would be appreciated.

There is a gun cleaner/ lubricant called G96. I would occasionally have problems with my autoloaders (Remington 1100,1187, Beretta extrema) Since using G96 never a problem. January field hunting and diver hunting on the fingerlakes, never a problem. Try it. You will like it.

Fished the Oak for the first time 7/16. Was a bit bumpy but managed our limit with 3 teenagers, 1 mature, 1 steelhead and a coho. Spoons did the damage with ssw and 42nd being best. Took 3 fish on sliders. Released a bunch of shakers and a 24 inch atlantic. Had a blast.

_{Great job getting the kids out.  Get them started young and they will enjoy a lifetime of memories, and sleep deprivation.}

Just picked up the required licenses for my 17 year old son and myself for the upcoming hunting,trapping and fishing season. Grand total of $284. Same licenses in Alaska would cost us 174 as AK residents. Got to love NY. They wonder why participation is down.

Where are the mature kings? Most of the pictures I've seen of fish this last week have been next years fish.

If a fish does not have an adipose fin it means it is a stocked fish, adipose fin=wild fish, no fin= stocked fish. Does not matter, still a fish of a life time.

That means we would have caught a lot of small matures (8 to 10 pound) in 2013 because that is the size 2 year olds should be if they run, jacks. Looking back at my pictures from 2013, there were no mature fish in my catch that size. I don't think they have any idea what is going on out there and instead of saying that they make stuff up.

Headed out early, started in 100, no fish or bait on sonar. Lost a small king behind the boat rocket behind a 11 inch white flasher down 90 then nothing for 2 hours. Could only fish til 11:00 so we slipped in to 80 to 100 and picked at the browns, silver back glow frog was the hot spoon, even took a 4 pound smallie 80 feet down on this spoon. NO bait. Where is the bait? This time of year the kings are still on the feed and with the lack of bait it did not surprise me there were no kings around.

Good Luck down there. By the way did you go to Brockport State in the late 80's?

Great job!  Did you really mean riggers out 400. I don't even have 400 feet of cable on my riggers.

How long leads are you running behind your dipsys? I have been reading that in Michigan they are running leads 50 feet behind the dipsys (not slide divers) and just hand lining the fish. I might try this Have wired tuna off Oregon Inlet and its kind of fun.

We fished out front on Saturday from 120 to 300. Some fish and bait in 130. Dropped a nice coho just behind the boat,caught a 15 pound king on a ff on 600 copper and had 1 more hit on ff 90 down on a rigger.63 degrees on top so the fish can be spread all over the water column.

Thanks for the replies. We ran a ton of cut bait in the mid 80's and early 90's and always ran it with the 11 inch paddles. Glad to hear you are having luck with it with the 8 inch stuff. We had great luck spraying WD 40 on the herring, does anyone still do this?