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  1. 11 hours ago, Yankee Troller said:

    I am one of the largest marine electronics dealer/installers on Lake Ontario's South shore I will put my $.02 in. In order to sell most companies high end stuff dealers have to sign a re-sellers agreement not to advertise below Manufacturers Advertised Pricing (MAP). More and more electronics companies have gone to this. This gives the brick and mortar vs the internet dealer the same shot at business in my opinion and puts everyone on the same playing field. Mark up on these electronics is HORRIBLE as it is. That being said with our install business at the marina we sometimes can discount items since we have the service business to go with the sale of the product. I can also go to a trade show, like the Niagara Outdoor Expo, and sell for whatever I want there as long as I don't advertise it. We had over $200,000 in product (cost not retail) that we were bringing to that show. I still have a lot of that product on an order, which most has been tough to get your hands on. If anyone's interested I will have that order sometime in mid February.


    To the original posters comment if it was illegal I would think these big companies legal teams would not let them do it, but everyone of them do it. It's been this way for many years. Also, if you PM me and tell me what you want I can see what I can do for you.

    awesome post

  2. 9 hours ago, Yankee Troller said:


    No problem I sell and install all of these options. Let me know if you want some prices.

    Not to hijack the thread but I'd be interested in options you could quote installed.  I have hydraulic steering on a 2018 Fishmaster 196.  150 main, 9.9 kicker and tie bar connect from main to kicker.   I'll send you a PM.

  3. 11 hours ago, VanderLaan said:


    Truth. The remote works ok, but seems to lose its bearing on occasion. Happened once last year in some wind and chop. Ended up spinning the boat in a circle before I knew what was happening. Lots of fun untangling a six rod spread in those conditions. Left me doubting it's long-term viability and searching for something better.

    Yeah when it gets too choppy I can't use TM autopilot going into it for sure

  4. 38 minutes ago, VanderLaan said:

    I have a 19 foot walk-through with a 150 and a 9.9 kicker. Have been trolling with the kicker pushing and the bow-mount trolling motor steering. Was contemplating upgrading to auto-pilot after talking to a guy at the cleaning station last fall but realize that I know nothing about it.  Pros and cons? Who makes a good system? Cost? Installation issues? Can I run it with my GPS?  If there is a thread that covers all this, please let me know. Don't want to waste anyone's time.  

    I have the same setup as you.  I have a Fishmaster 196 and 72" Terrova in the front.  I contemplated an actual autopilot but stuck with my setup for now.  Unit cost, uncertain install and how well it will work on a light aluminum boat (vs what I have) have kept me at bay.  I have thought about taking it to someone but that has its logistics hoops.  @Yankee Trollermight have some comments with the work he does with Krenzer Marine.

  5. Since (unfortunately) the "unofficial" word is that the Niagara show is cancelled....is it too soon to ask the question about what is going to happen with the salmon school?   I made it one year, had snow storms keep me from traveling to the next 2...then covid...now covid rearing its head again I feel like I'm the problem lol.   

  6. 14 minutes ago, Hachimo said:

    Boy O boy Clarke.  That Fat Trout is Bad News! :rofl:

    Yep....don't trust that guy, he's a little nutty.  Good luck this weekend Clarke!  I'm probably not out this weekend since I'll be up the next month+ of weekends hitting the river or combat zone lake as conditions allow.  Post up so I can regret my decision!  I was referencing your 26# fish  posted earlier but glad I could create some confusion lol.  

  7. 6 minutes ago, minion said:

    Yikes I wouldn’t even wanna think about that I’m almost certain this front would have thrown a 14 ft lol

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    LOL, your right, it scared me straight on Lake O.....37 years later (not to date myself) I remember it like yesterday.  We were close enough to be OK and when we started coming in to the state launch (I think it was) I remember is the dunes sand blasting the boat coming in and the small boat behind us bailing water.  Mother nature.....

  8. 11 hours ago, Low Baller said:

    We we're lucky to get a full day in on Saturday. I love being on the lake but when she starts getting angry I'm gone. Found temp at 110 but Sunday morning was above my pay grade. Played with the mud sharks in the kiddy pool. All good. Might do a suicide run this weekend if she behaves herself. 

    I loved Saturday's weather and met you on the doc next to Mike's (briefly) before I left in my intent to go back out (ha ha)....sorry didn't realize who you were until I went by your boat lol.   I applaud your efforts, posts and small boat game.   Not long ago I was out there on days like Saturday in my 13'er.  I was fortunate enough to get 4 this Saturday going out morning / evening with my wife...and actually working as a team (this time).  Here's a pic of my Saturday evening with a nice dipsy fish I hooked .....with rod in hand when he hit as I was trying reel it in to a shorter length out.  Its not as fantastic as your 26 of course lol


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  9. 1 hour ago, whalertoo said:

    Hi , someone asks for help and it turns sour, unbelievable!. 1) I never said pump out all gallons in separate tank, I suggested to gain access to tank via sending unit or tank fill then check out fuel at bottom of tank with indicator paste . 2) I never said or implied that anyone was recommending anything  to harm you or your boat. pissing contest go right at it, do or do not do as I suggested. I simply told you how I would address this fuel issue. Take care, Dino

    All comments were reasonable, yours as well.  None sour.  just open talk with a few different thoughts.

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  10. 9 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

    This is what Late May / June used to be like in the 90's.  The kings will come.  The browns are a little more concerning than the kings.  The past 3 seasons we have been spoiled.  You have to take the good years with the bad years in this fishery.  Those that do not will not survive.  Tough fishing helps you learn.  Take advantage of tough fishing and try new things. 

    I agree with you and @A-Lure-A the fishery is very cyclical and I remember the 90's well.  I also remember browns in 2013 or so being the same at least on the east end with big ones only and few smaller.  It happens.  Fishing where I do I don't expect kings until the lake sets up and even then you have to have your A game dialed.  If I get a few early I'm grateful and excited.    I'm really glad to see the bait resurgence of smaller bait (good recent hatch).  I'm committed to this fishery (or should be committed due to my focus on this fishery).  I live for the good days and still love fishing even on the bad ones.  I do love that the fishery still makes you earn it.  

  11. I have 2 cabelas depthmaster reels I'm selling together @ $90 shipped.


    - Depthmaster Gold DMG45 with 1000 ft of 30# mason 7 strand plus enough backing to make the spool full.  Wire is 3 years old.  The reel is lightly used, it sat in a closet for a while then was put on an extra rig and used once or twice a season the past 3 years as I prefer my braid diver rig.   Reel capacity 20#/580yds  25/430  30/330


    - Depthmaster II DM30a - New never used  reel capacity 15#/510  20/420  25/310


    I prefer to sell together.

    PM me if interested.





  12. 4 hours ago, HB2 said:

    I'm just looking for a cheap way out to get some sort of gauge of speed to satisfy my doubts when I'm not hooking up in my small boat which has been a lot this spring . 


    I think I'm  going to buy a new depth finder for my big boat and put the old one on my little boat which has a surface speed probe. 


    I've done very well in my small boat without having speed for years but this year has been tough . But that has been the norm this year . 



    That would work.  When I started back trolling with a small boat and no fish hawk I had a GPS speed reference on my Ipilot that I was using as a poor mans autopilot.  best you can do is have some sort of speed reference gps or water speed and use that with your best judgement on cable angle etc from there.

  13. Quick update I went with the Garmin reactor 40 linked to a garmin 7610xsv , overall happy need to play with a little works great in calm conditions, only negative is if wind is blowing and catches bow it over corrects itself over and over again and has a hard time leveling off but that might be the nature of the beast.

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    How rough and how bad is the over correction?..asking as interested putting something like that on a fishmaster 196. I have to believe some is nature of the beast and to some extent variable turning (within reason) is goos for fishing but not if it messes with your trolling spread of course.

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  14. Courtesy on a busy ramp is an alternate merge scenario.   you go....i go....in or out.  Just know how to launch / pull your boat quickly.   Use the unused dock/ramp when possible.   If its busy, do any adjustment you want before you launch or after or after you pull.  Intended speed / intention to be fast or care to be fast will be met with more patience than don't give a crap slow.  Rigging at the dock is a dick move (if in the way)  as is unrigging or running to the bathroom.  Load your gear before you put in.  Unload after you pull (if the ramp is in any way busy) Treat as you wish to be treated....simple.   If you are new, learn on off hours.  If you haven't run the motor in forever, an active ramp isn't the place to figure out of the boat runs.   This doesn't always happen but those are the rules.  

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  15. 6 hours ago, njg0621 said:

    I basically trailer the boat everywhere.  I troll browns in the spring at Ontario (3 1/2hrs), Jig Perch Laker late spring in Lake George (1 1/2hrs). Bass fish and troll walleyes at a bunch of lakes in between.  Fish Stripers on the Hudson in May.  


    Right now from what I have seen I really Like the Lund Impact 1875 with the 150 Pro XS.  Something like the Striper Fiberglass boat I really don't think would fit my needs as much.  If I primarily just trolled big water than yes it would but Honestly I primarily just troll browns in the spring and walleyes sometimes.  I do a lot of vertical jigging and casting as well using a bow mount trolling motor which I wouldn't have on that striper.


    The Lund Impact, Alumacraft Trophy and Crestiner Fish Hawk all look sweet though, it's tough to make the decision.  Like I was saying before and no one commented...What about these fiberglass boats like the ranger 1880MS? These boats look like they have all the options of the Aluminums and I would think they offer a better ride.  Anyone ever been in one?



    I'll give you this.  I had a Starweld 18 Pro and went to a Fishmaster 196.  I fished for years in a 23 sportcraft with my father.  It was a big boat.  Time passed, I started back with aluminum but wanted bigger but knew i had a line on how much effort to deal with a glass boat in size from towing ease to launching etc.   I like the extra width and higher freeboard which took me where I went and i like the aluminum lower weight and ease IMO of launching and traveling with less weight, better fuel economy etc.  I fish by myself sometimes which was a factor for me.   I'd rather a glass boat for displacement when fishing in rougher waters and issues of an aluminum in potential corrosion issues and inlayed wood floor "wet" issues.  Alumacraft and Crestliner are top brands...Lund is too and perhaps better resale from name but I don't know if its a lot.  Crestliners especially seem well thought of.  I feel like Lund likes themselves a bit much (IMO) hence the price. I keep my boat dry as a bone and don't plan to keep it in the water for any length of time.  I feel like their quality has deminished from their original times.  If you stay aluminum, this is a layout (and admittedly price) issue again IMO.  Aluminum wise I would like some full aluminum boats like west coast designs and some Crestliners but that comes with cost.  If new, how will you treat it?  If used, how was it treated...will you know, will you worry? No wrong answers 

  16. 10 minutes ago, Hachimo said:

    Got it figured out. As I said in original post i put new lift motor in and worked for a couple seconds and quit.  Theres a second inline fuze and fuze was popped.  Put a new one in and worked a few seconds goin down then popped again.  After pullin my hair out I realized the drive wasnt all the way down. The clocking wasn’t right. The motor was maxing out when outdrive was halfway down therfore blowin the fuze .  I pulled motor out and spun the inside up a few rotations and now its not popping fuses and goes all the way up and all the way down till light goes out without a hitch.  
      Thank you fellas for all your imput. 
    much appreciated 

    I think the old boat was just jealous of the new boat.  Some girlfriends don't go away quietly.

  17. What I find interesting is that Ontario is showing itself to be a matter of inches below average and all these launches and harbors are too low to get boats into/out of.  Somebody explain.
    I agree. in a post above someone said the lake has to come at least 2 to 3 ft.b last year it was 2 ft higher than it is at this same time frame based on IJC charts and people were concerned that a flood was coming again

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