rolmops

So it was you who came roaring by on your way out

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Total Hits: 17

Total Boated:9

Species Breakdown:Coho,laker, king

Hot Lure:

Trolling Speed: 2.5

Down Speed: 2.5

Boat Depth: 130/250

Lure Depth: variable

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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After leaving I-Bay towards the Genny mouth I realized that it would be combat fishing over there so I went to Longline's stomping grounds in front of Russel power station a few miles out.

It took a while to get away from the cold water that started at 12 feet but I found some nice breaks where 50 degrees was anywhere between 45 and 80 feet so that is where I set up. A few boats that had been fishing farther inside and one that was quite close to me in the 50 to 70 foot range went way out to what I think must have been 500 feet ,but I just did 8 knots on the way out there when I found lots of fish and bait. I set up there with spin doctors and spoons.The spoons were useless,but the spin doctors and flies were busy all the time specially on the dipsy divers which gave me a lot of big hits , a few seconds of fighting but they mostly popped loose. ( one of these days I will stop using snubbers) On a 10 color leadcore with a coho setup I caught the only king of the day, it was about 8 inches long, but very feisty. I was thinking that I probably fed that one a lot of pellets when it was in the cage.All 7 cohos all came on spin doctors and flies and so did the the laker.

At the end of the day the DEC people were at the the I-Bay entrance and they weighed the 2 Cohos that I brought back ) One was 15 and the other 14 pounds.

A very nice day out indeed.

The DEC guys told me that they are hiring people again, mostly to work in the hatcheries

Cornelis.

rolmops, i like your idea. i know my otter boats pull like crap and wouldnt help although the homemade jobbys would probably help. never thought about dipsies helping. i dont fish by myself with my penn yan but i do fish alone in my 16' starcraft which has a tiller motor. its nice having everything at the back of the boat but with all that weight in the back it seems like i can do a quick uturn just setting up a rigger. runs much truer with one guy in the bow. what size boat do you run? best, mark

I run a 19 foot Sylvan.Concerning the Otterboats running like crap,try to tie the knot in a slightly different spot so the angle of the otter boat keel pulls a bit more outward. I sometimes run 500 copper and 10 colors leadcore on each side and they still work great. As for tiller motor, I run a 1964 9.5 evinrude kicker ,but I changed it to remote control,which you can do to almost any tiller outboard.

Respectfully, Cornelis.

When I go solo (almost all the time) I try to put out the otter boats and the dipsy diver rods (both) but often without any spoons or flies. I do this to stabilize the boat and make it run a steady course. the dipsies are empty in order to stay legal.

I find that this really helps in running a straight line when I am fighting a fish or fixing a rod. Does anybody else use this or a similar technique to run a straight course?

The better swivels on the market are the Spro and the Sempra. They are smaller,but they have bearings and they are very strong for their seize. Another thing is to allow the fish to run and let himself tire a bit before bringing him in. "Setting" the hook with 30 some pounds on the other end trying to go the other way will break lines.

You should try to use a snubber,this will cushion the first impact of a hit,and you can also set the dipsy just a bit looser.

What kind of swivels are you using?

You remind me of what is was like for me when I first started trolling Lake Ontario.

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Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):9/3

Time on Water:06.00-16.00

Weather/Temp:hot

Wind Speed/Direction:west

Waves: 1 footers

Surface Temp: 72

Location:In front of Slaters Creek

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: around twenty

Total Boated:around twenty

Species Breakdown:Kings,Steelhead,Lakers

Hot Lure:

Trolling Speed: 3.3

Down Speed: 2.6

Boat Depth: first 60 then 90/130

Lure Depth: 70/50/10 colors/8 colors/dipsy 210 out (2)/dipsy 180 out (2)

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

We left at six and went out to sixty feet where in spite of warm water there were plenty of marks.Let out the first dipsy and as we let the second dipsy out the first took a big hit which we lost after about 10 minutes.Meanwhile I got the 2 riggers down and the second dipsy took a hit. this one turned out to be a good king in the twenties,another followed within 20 minutes,but then things got very quiet.We went out deeper,around 90 fow and set up there.The thermocline was at fifty feet and when we found our break line it went down to about 70. There the steelhead were just hitting all the time all the way out to 140 feet,at which point we got another king.Later we picked up a few lakers. Mostly we were just having a great time with the steel head.

Cornelis

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If it is lakers that you are after,you will do well with leadcore. The trick is in trolling live mooneyes (sawbellies) at speeds of 1.6 to 1.9 mph with 10 colors out. At that speed you will reach depths of close to 90 feet. just speed up and slow down in roughly that range.It has always worked for me. Around this time of year they are probably in around a hundred feet of water.

The torpedo wire that I got a little while ago had one very good spool,but another one had a few problems.I contacted the sales rep and he was genuinely interested in what exactly the problem was.

He traced it back to a combination of a power failure and a new girl working the machine at the same time.

He also gave me another spool to replace the one that had some problems. The torpedo people stand behind their product.

Cornelis.

The huge amount of CHEAP natural gas that is about to flood the energy market is our main ally in this fight. In today's economy the main reason for wind power is the amount of jobs that it is supposed to provide. Now those jobs can be provided by the expansion of the natural gas infrastructure,while at the same time,the cost of electricity produced by natural gas is far less than wind energy produced electricity and gas is a lot cleaner than coal and also much cheaper to transport to the power stations than coal.

Washington may not be the smartest, but the big gas company's lobbies are quite willing to show the numbers to anyone who wants to see. This will force Washington away from wind energy and into embracing gas drilling.

Now if we can only solve that nasty fracking thingy....

Cornelis.

The only thing that comes to mind is the double planers that you use.Because of the added weight they run a bit deeper and in addition they pull more than twice as hard. I have seen double boards that had the tie rope coming through small holes in the board but tied to the bolts of the planer board.

http://www.glanglerforum.com/forum/show ... ifications

The damage in the picture may have been because of transport bouncing.

With all due respect to your opinions,the RFA is not exactly a sports fisherman organisation.It is much more a front of commercial fishing interests which is using the terms "sports and recreational" as a front to hide behind while protecting industrial interests and destroying what is left over of our natural fishing stocks in the name of profit.

If large corporations like Walmart donate money to organizations that try to save some of our fishing stocks for our children (much like the DEC does in NY) it can only be applauded. So please do not judge the gift too quickly.

Destroying what is left over after all the over fishing and pollution is not smart. Trying to save it is smart.

Here is something that I would like to add.

California is trying a system that has proven itself in Polynesia for hundreds of years. By closing certain areas for extended time periods,the stocks there completely rebound and then they start spilling over in the surrounding areas where the stocks also rebound. In Polynesia,which is very dependent on its fishery, it was and still is one of the responsibilities of the village headman to chose which areas to open and close for fishing. This system has successfully maintained healthy stock around the islands.

9 to 12 mph ant bad were headin up in the morning thanks tom...

try 9 to 12 feet waves

Any of you guys ever try this?

http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/lake- ... ap-otw-tv/

I was there ,north and west, but a bit farther out. My boat does have a planer mast at the very tip.

Were you out a bit farther and a bit more to the east?

Cornelis.

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):8-26

Time on Water:8-12.30

Weather/Temp:70 degrees, clouded

Wind Speed/Direction:about 12 knots out of the north-east

Waves: early on about 2 footers, mid morning 3 footers,around noon down to 1 footers

Surface Temp: 71

Location:north of the Genesee

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: 5

Total Boated:4

Species Breakdown:lakers,kings

Hot Lure: spin doctor with home made fly

Trolling Speed: 2.8

Down Speed: 2.6

Boat Depth: 100 to 200 feet

Lure Depth: 130 and 90,dipsies out 210 feet and 180 feet,copper out 350

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

Left late this morning and started taking down temps at 6o fow. after several tries where the temperature was 71 all the way down to the bottom,things started looking up a bit in 130 feet where we found a very irregular break starting 110 down. It went between 64 and 44 with the probe at 110 down.

We set up and caught a few 2 year olds and then to make my son feel better,I dropped one line down to 145 feet down and went laker hunting.Thank god for lakers.They are very dependable and we caught a very nice 15 pounder. That was it for the day.

Cornelis.

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Thanks for the heads up, but one question. What do you mean by them being "red"? Referring to the start of their color change?

Yes, all the ones we caught today had lost their silvery colors and were turning reddish

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):8/21

Time on Water:06.00-13.30

Weather/Temp:warm with intermittent rain early on later it turned almost sunny and even later a monster thunderstorm showed up

Wind Speed/Direction:about 10 knots mostly from the north west

Waves: between 2 and 3 early on down to less than 1 towards noon

Surface Temp:72

Location:out to 500 feet nort-east of I-Bay,later at 180 feet in north east of the Genny

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: 11

Total Boated:8

Species Breakdown:kings and one steelie

Hot Lure: glow froggy, Spin doctor(nuclear??) with blueish flies

Trolling Speed: between 2.5 and 3.4

Down Speed: roughly between 2.4 and 2.8

Boat Depth: various

Lure Depth: between 95 and 70

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

We left the Bay around six in the morning and went out to 160 feet where we set up at a break line around 60 feet down which proved to hold only skippies. After this we trolled north and east out to 500 feet ,but it was just covering empty space and wasted time.We picked up our lines and set a course for the area in front of Slaters creek,but on the way there in about 200 feet the screen started to show some big fish that were on top of big bait balls so we dropped our lines there and the thermocline was pretty steady at 90 feet until we hit all sorts of currents and breaks at different depths,probably the out flow of the Genny. There the fun started. They started hitting the dipsy with the fly,the copper with a mag glow lemon ice and the glow frog.

All were in the low twenty pound range and all were quite red. I think that the staging has started and from here on they will just get closer in. the steel head was a 7 pounder.

Around twelve thirty by sheer luck I turned on channel 2 for some weather info and there was a severe thunder storm warning with a storm coming from the west, so that cut our day short.

But they are there and they are staging.

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I would like to be the first to thank Zeke (Lyteline) and Tom (LongLine) For the hard work and continuous updates during this whole thing.

Tom

I second that.

So now that it has become legal to run 3 rods,we will see how much more fishing gear will be sold to fishermen who try to run solo with 3 rods and loose a lot of gear because of bird's nests and other small disasters because they have to do too many things all at once. Oh well, now I can at least legally make a mess while trying to do too many things at once.

So Rolmops, what you are saying here about our dear gov is that he has the power to impact the entire freshwater fishery of NY state with the stroke of his pen without having a clue about it?

Those are your conclusions not mine. But I would not at all be amazed if you are right.

It is a bit far reaching to claim that this 3 rod rule impacts the entire fresh water fishery of New York State.

Does it surprise anyone that the bill will get enacted automatically immediately following closure of the Fall LOC? My $$$ is that this was entirely on purpose...for what reason, I don't know, but it seems too coincidental to be coincidence (in the words of Yogi).

That would be nice,but it shows that you think that this Cuomo guy from NY City actually knows about what's going on north of the Tappan Zee bridge.

Nice fish congrats!!!

Shirt sucks

Thanks,but it was not me who caught that monster. As for the shirt, whats wrong with selling red socks?

This afternoon I saw a sign advertizing ethanol free 91 octane gas at the Valero gas station on the corner of East Henrieta road and Westfall road in Rochester.

Cornelis.

Last week in the Long Island Sound a striper weighing 81.88 pounds was caught.It was weighed in 12 hours after it was caught.

If recognized,this striper will beat the 29 year old world record by almost 4 pounds.

http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/exclu ... d-striper/