rolmops

I just broke a Scotty rod holder that seemed to do just fine for a dipsy diver rod. Plastic is not metal.

If it is for a rod that goes to a planer board line you should be fine,if it is an inline board you should not risk the rod,reel and fish

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):8/7

Time on Water:from 5 till 2

Weather/Temp:foggy,rainy,hot, very humid ,high seventies

Wind Speed/Direction:no wind in the morning,later some wind from the north

Waves: hardly any

Surface Temp: 77

Location:in front of Slaters Creek

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: 15

Total Boated:14

Species Breakdown:1 big brown,5 steelies, 9 kings.

Hot Lure: everything worked

Trolling Speed: between 2.3 and 3.5

Down Speed: between 2.4 and 2.9

Boat Depth: from 90 till 365

Lure Depth: between 25 and 60

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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I started out in the dark and set up just before sun rise in 90 feet with 50 degrees at about 55 down. Around 130 feet there was bait and I missed a skippy there but 2 minutes later I got a nice big brown. I trolled out to about 360 feet while all the time the thermocline was steady at about 55 feet down. There was a steady slow pick mostly on spoons.There were no takers for the dipsy with spin doctors and fly at 180 feet of wire.The downrigger with a glow frog kept busy ,although nothing big was caught.

On the troll back to the south,it started raining .I shortened the dipsy to 100 feet and that started firing too. at 350 feet it was mostly steel head but around 120 feet there were salmon in the top 40 feet.

Nothing really big though. The lessons learned while prefishing and observing definitely made a huge difference.

On the troll back in,the thermocline came up to 33 foot with all the fish above the 50 degree line.

Cornelis

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Chris ,how about you come for a boat ride.All you have to do is sit and relax.

There were quite a few dead seagulls around Sodus Point a few weeks ago. We were joking about floating white chickens.

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I use the 20 pound test flea flicker, it has fewer problems than the 30 pound line.

Today at the Oak there were no fleas at all.

I have a set of fold up Riviera triple planer boards for sale. I bought them about a month and a half (June 24) ago for $190 (including shipping) and I have used them twice.They come with the original boxes.

I will part with them for $80.

below are some pictures

Cornelis.

How about dumping a few of those babies in the Mississippi river? They will probably make short work of the Asian carp, besides, I would love to see a You-tube of some southern hicks Tiger fish noodling.

One morning on the Spoonfed I lost 3 fish in a row,so I asked captain Glen what my mistake could be. He told me that brown trout and lakers have a very soft mouth and horsing the fish in or setting the hook hard causes the mouth to tear open. Every hard jerk will make that tear larger and in the end the hole will be so big that the lip will tear open on one side or the hook slip out of the hole. The secret is in patience and steady pressure without rash movements. Kings have a hard mouth and they are much better fit for a hard fight and it is easy to recognize a king when it hits your spoon.

It is a good thing that you made it out of there in one piece. You might want to consider investing in a flare gun,that usually gets some attention.

How many fish that are dead already and were meant to go to the weigh in do you think will be thrown back in the water because the fishermen think that they must catch a bigger one?

The Penn

One unfortunate guy was struck and killed in a small boat in Presque Isle Bay (Erie Pa.) back in the late 80's early 90's..... he was killed, and knocked out of the boat... and I believe divers recovered the body later in the day.....I also seem to remember that there were 2 young girls on the boat who were uninjured by the lightning bolt. The boat was within several hundred yards of a grain storage silo complex and a power plant (with stack) .... so he wasn't exactly the tallest thing around. You should do everything you can to up the odds, but lightning doesn't always follow the rules....

Once saw a Tstorm south of Rochester while walking on the Charlotte pier...... everyone on the pier had their hair standing up on end in a big sphere..... We ran for the car, but no lightning ever struck the pier area.....

In my physics 101 course book there is a picture of a girl standing at an overlook scaffold of the Grand canyon. The girl's long hair stood out in a perfect circle. In the comment under the picture it said that 10 minutes after the picture was taken, the scaffolding was hit by lighting and 2 visitors lost their lives

I have read somewhere that aluminum boats are less of a deadly risk compared to fiber glass boats,because aluminum is far better grounded and as such not charged differently from the lake around it.

There are stories where lightning hit a fiber glass boat and it blew the through the hull transducer right out of its hole causing the boat to sink.

If you have that happen,the next thing might be a lightning flash coming your way. Interesting,but not healthy. Next time it happens,you should ground your rods out by sticking them in the water and then get off the water real fast.

Any contact info for tordedo...I would like to get some wire...thanks in advance

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We just went for a sunset fishing trip to the oak,and it was well worth it.

Just slightly west of the outlet, over about 145 feet of water we stumbled upon an amazing temperature break at about 50 feet down. Every few yards the temperature and the speed at the ball would change dramatically. going up and down between 60 degrees and 48 degrees while the speed of at the ball currents went between 3.4 and 1.4 back and forth all the time.

There was fish all over it and the catching was amazing. I figured that there would be brown trout around it so I dropped a brown trout lure that I picked up last week at the proam in Sodus point. The very same that caught all our big browns on the Friday pre-fishing ,but this time the kings were hitting it.6 of them in half an hour all in the 8 pound range. Then,on a glow froggy I got a laker which I was sure at first was a big king because of the way it took line out. This fish went down to the bottom where it intended to stay. It took almost half an hour to slowly winch what turned out to be a 29 pound lake trout out of the water. The lesson that Glen taught me about browns and lakers having a soft mouth came in very useful indeed.

We had a blast of a sunset fishing trip and got off the water just in time before a very heavy thunder storm hit the Oak.

Cornelis.

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A while ago there was this video by Captain Bill Salmon where he was testing the breaking strength of 7 stranded and in one case 19 stranded wire line.

I went searching for the the torpedo wire and around Rochester I only found the Mason wire,the price of which varied between $36 and $44 per 1000 foot spool of 30 pound test.On Line and on E-Bay the Torpedo was about $40 per thousand foot instead of the $25 it said on the video.

Just today I swung into S&R tackle nearby Sea Breeze on Culver and there it was. Torpedo wire for $22,89 per thousand foot. He has about 7 spools left and will not buy anymore till next year. If you need the wire ,then this is a chance to get good stuff for cheap.

Cornelis.

Does anybody know of a place near Rochester where live alewives are available?

They are readily available at the bait shops in the Finger lakes area,but are not to be found around here.

Does anybody know why?

Thanks,Cornelis

Does anyone use dipsy divers in the finger lakes to catch lakers?

Thanks,Cornelis

On Owasco lake you fish on the south end when you have a southern wind and on the north end when there is a northern wind. That way you will catch browns ,rainbows,eyes,pike and even some lakers at the outer edge of the weedbeds from 24 to 35 feet down. I usually have a lot of good catches with mooneyes which every species in that lake loves.

As for walleye,that is for people who can't catch salmon.

We fished the Trench (shipping route) last Friday about a mile south of the Canadian border.Lots of bait specially around the bumps that come up to 50 feet where the rest is roughly a hundred.

We did plenty of lakers and a few skippies. We were really scouting for big salmon for the proam but we did not find them there

I've never heard of anyone trolling using mooneyes. What set up do you use ?

Thanks- Rusty

I use a #4 or #6 Octopus hook in the mouth that does the pulling and tied up to that with a line between 2 and 4 inches long a treble hook that goes through the mooneye near the tail ,or it is just held there by a small rubber band.

What you create is a live lure that gives of a perfect wounded fish smell and signal. Now you are no longer dependent on a minimal speed to make artificials effective. You are effective at very slow speeds.

Somehow it works better off planer boards with leadcore.

Cornelis

We went to our cottage expecting a very busy lake,but the opposite was true.It turned out to be very quiet with very little boat traffic and even the jet fleas were few and far between and well behaved.

Saturday afternoon I tried the new Riviera planer boards and those things pull like mules. It is a learning experience and the weeds have a much greater effect on them than it has on Otter Boards.The jury is still out on which is better.I guess that they both have their place. Next week I will run an otter board on one side and a riviera board on the other. As for fishing,the lakers preferred 6 colors with a glow frog dodger and spoon at 1.9 to 2.2 mph. We took about 9 cookie cutters in 2 hours, on top of that we got 2 nice browns over 140 feet of water at 40 feet down.

Sunday,neither the lakers nor the browns wanted anything to do with artificials be they lures,suttons or flies,so we changed to mooneyes and we caught a bunch more lakers both on the 6 colors and the 8 colors trolling at 1.6 to 1.8. The browns took the day off. All in all a very nice trip.