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    salmon river thug attack!!!!!! Update

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    THE EYEWITNESS Well here is the eyewitness account of what happened the day of the assault. I was fishing 200 yards downstream from the older gentleman who got attacked, but did not know at the time it was my friend Bill. I started to hear yelling , when I seen a guy punch another guy , honestly seen this before so did not think much of it. The yelling and punching continued and I seen 2 more guys jump in throwing punches. Then I was concerned for the guy and started yelling to them that was enough maybe 8 more fisherman were saying the same thing. But it did not stop and they started to hold him under water while 2 other people were kicking and punching him. I then realised this man's life was in serious danger, so I then started to walk up to assist the man, yelling across the river walking up to where they were, I realized that I knew it was Bill getting the beating. Then I realized who was doing the kicking and punching it was Pat Mahoney, Bob Mahoney Jr. and 3 other guys who I'm not positive who they are. One of the men with a thinner build and no shirt had a tattoo's on his chest. Once I got to a spot where I could cross the "tough guys" went running through the woods. These men are cowards. This display was pathetic to say the least. Bill is 63 and was begging them to stop , what kind of a man could do such a thing. I'm counting on justice to prevail and these "tough guys" get punished to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe there guide license's should be taken away forever . Bill is a tough man and I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back to what he loves fishing.

    THE FRIEND OF THE VICTUM Bill was beatin very badly & his injuries will take sometime to heal. He's experiencing severe headaches, blurriness, sore ribs, sore back, broken nose & bruises from his head to his knees. They even kicked him in the b--ls. They'll be in the news & newspaper before long. Lets see if they can run from the State Police. They'll be selling each other down the drain when they hear what the charges are.

    This was not a fight ( it was an assault on one man by a group of thugs ) Bill Murry the 62 year old victum was beatin , kicked , choked & held underwater to the point he thought he was going to die. So lets get this clear , it was not a fight , it was a brutal attack & these thugs should of been arrested by now. It seems to me that the D.E.C. or State Police do not have there facts straight, Bill was released from Upstate Medical University & re-admitted to the V.A. hospital. As of today , 12 days have passed & still no arrests have been made. The thugs were not fishing, only Bill Murray was. They were hiding in the woods waiting for there pre-meditated attack. I keep hearing about an alleged tire slashing. Well you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out. First of all I know Bill Murray for years , he's an honest, caring, loving husband, father & grandfather. He's a War veteran who loves his country & his fellow man, loves to fish & enjoys the outdoors & life more than anyone I know. Most of all he does'nt have any time for the Mahoney brothers & the rest of the thugs before or now, he just wants to be left alone. They threatened his life & threatened to burn down his house if he told the police who they were, well they know who they are & we're waiting for the police to do there job. Why are the Police so apprehensive, ( in the case of a fishing violation the fisherman is taken directly to the JUDGE ) Tell me what's wrong with this picture. Please contact your Senator , Congressman or any local representative of Government that may help Bill receive JUSTICE.

    salmon river thug attack!!!!!! Update

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    this is very true and from what has been told by the county D.A.'S office that due to the seriousness of the crime they are crossing all there T'S and dotting I's

    {qoute from another site} A real quick synopsis... the victim and attackers (yes, they are licensed guides) have some sort of history. What it is, I don't know. There was an accusation of tires being slashed at some point. I wasn't there for the attack, but am going with the original poster's statement as being accurate since he was just downstream of the attack. Apparently they jumped the victim from the woods after a couple other people nearby him left. From what I gather the salmon river has a history of fights breaking out... so it's not really for me... but this attack does seem like it goes above and beyond the usual fist fight. 3 on 1, holding the guy underwater and 3 days in the hospital seems closer to attempted manslaughter.

    I'm still not too concerned with justice being served, of course if everyting I've read is 100% accurate I would've preferred jail with no bond already issued. I think as others said it's a matter of dotting I's and crossing T's. If you rush to justice, a high profile attorney will pick apart statements and the investigation and it all goes out the window. The lack of media coverage is kinda odd though. Ironically I heard from a buddy for the first time in a couple years just a few days ago. He mentioned next week going out with the them on a trip. I told him he may want to rebook seeing they may be in jail by then. He had no clue...

    salmon river thug attack!!!!!! Update

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    Phone calls & messages have been coming in from Pa, NJ, Conn,Vt,NY concerning Bills condition & what is being done to those responsible for this crime. Bill is not only my friend he is one of the nicest, friendliest & responsible individual you'll ever meet. All he ever wanted to do was go fishing, enjoy the outdoors & associate with other fishermen. Then he ran into a group irresponsible thugs that have no respect for the well being of others. In this case they beat a man who was preparing to go into the hospital in one week for a brain anuerysm operation, instead he's in the hospital being treated for senseless injuries. I want to thank everyone for the kind messages & thoughts for Bill, they are well received. Everyone that fishes the Salmon River knows there are Guides who are kind , courteous & respect the rights of others. Yet there are a few that make it bad for the good guides who do not deserve the priviledge of wearing a Guide pin. If there is a Guide Association they should look into revoking this priviledge of anyone who commits such a criminal offense, in this case there is more than one or the state should be notified of such a criminal wrong doing. Again thank you for Bill.

    salmon river thug attack!!!!!! Update

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    This was not a fight ( it was an assault on one man by a group of thugs ) Bill Murry the 62 year old victum was beatin , kicked , choked & held underwater to the point he thought he was going to die. So lets get this clear , it was not a fight , it was a brutal attack & these thugs should of been arrested by now. It seems to me that the D.E.C. or State Police do not have there facts straight, Bill was released from Upstate Medical University & re-admitted to the V.A. hospital. As of today , 4 days have passed & still no arrests have been made. The thugs were not fishing, only Bill Murray was. They were hiding in the woods waiting for there pre-meditated attack. I keep hearing about an alleged tire slashing. Well you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out. First of all I know Bill Murray for years , he's an honest, caring, loving husband, father & grandfather. He's a War veteran who loves his country & his fellow man, loves to fish & enjoys the outdoors & life more than anyone I know. Most of all he does'nt have any time for the Mahoney brothers & the rest of the thugs before or now, he just wants to be left alone. They threatened his life & threatened to burn down his house if he told the police who they were, well they know who they are & we're waiting for the police to do there job. Why are the Police so apprehensive, ( in the case of a fishing violation the fisherman is taken directly to the JUDGE ) Tell me what's wrong with this picture. Please contact your Senator , Congressman or any local representative of Government that may help Bill receive JUSTICE.

    salmon river thug attack!!!!!! Update

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    Well here is the eyewitness account of what happened the day of the assault. I was fishing 200 yards downstream from the older gentleman who got attacked, but did not know at the time it was my friend Bill. I started to hear yelling , when I seen a guy punch another guy , honestly seen this before so did not think much of it. The yelling and punching continued and I seen 2 more guys jump in throwing punches. Then I was concerned for the guy and started yelling to them that was enough maybe 8 more fisherman were saying the same thing. But it did not stop and they started to hold him under water while 2 other people were kicking and punching him. I then realized this man's life was in serious danger, so I then started to walk up to assist the man, yelling across the river walking up to where they were, I realized that I knew it was Bill getting the beating. Then I realized who was doing the kicking and punching bill we will call them the (baloney boy's they are guides on the salmon river) along with 5 other guys who I'm not positive who they are. One of the men with a thinner build and no shirt had a tattoo's on his chest. Once I got to a spot where I could cross the "tough guys" went running through the woods. These men are cowards. This display was pathetic to say the least. Bill is 63 and was begging them to stop ,and thought they were going to kill him what kind of a men could do such a thing. I'm counting on justice to prevail and these "tough guys" get punished to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe there guide license's should be taken away forever . Bill is a tough man and I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back to what he loves fishing. :no::no:;(

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    Seneca Perch???

    in Panfish

    Posted

    Can somebody tell me where the Serverne Launch is? I tried to find it on mapquest with no luck.

    Thanks

    go south on 14 about 10- 12 miles south of roy's i have had the best luck using oak leaf grubs on a bullhead rig set up but have done ok on fatheads look for the crowd of boats and ease your way in these guys dont take kindly to newbie's i will be out there on 3/6/10 in a 16' lund

    Fish Board

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    i would try a local carpenter or furniture shop show them a picture of what you have in mind it will make a difference when you try to explain it to them if i lived closer i would do it for you there has to be someone in the yellow pages that makes sign's????

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