Raaven

Pick up and run way offshore and east a bit.

Start about 510 F.O.W. 

It has been very consistent out there for us all week. 

Mixed catch of Kings , Coho, and all the chrome you want . 

Good luck. 

Anyone with a top enclosure ever tried a thermacell?  They work great in the turkey woods. Might be ok out on the boat too??

We use them. The flies get lazy, flop around for awhile, AND DIE. 100's of them all over the place at the end of the day to clean up. You still get bit, by the "new" flies entering the boat, that haven't been effected by the thermacell yet. It does work...to a point, I guess?

Wearing long pants is the best solution. 

The 7-10 K a year you spend on the frustration of owning a boat.....would most likely finance more charters a year, than trips you actually took on your own boat. 

Plus you could charter out of the "hot" ports, and even change great lakes and species and even throw in an offshore Tuna charter and a whole bunch of head boat trips as well every year. 

Can you run squids behind flashers (instead of flies) or do you have to use a dodger ?

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Of course you can!

Play with different leader lengths and hook sizes to get different actions as well...

Sure. They aren't my go to bait, but I use them when things get slow.

They catch more fish when the bite is hot......

Does anybody still use squids for trolling/jigging ?

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i never stopped using them. 

I have gone out of Oswego in my 14 ft. But I have a marine radio and make contact with guys I know out there. Just in case something happens.

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Unfortunately...  WHEN something does happen...You will just be the next statistic. 

All you guys with the smaller boats say the same thing. 

"I'm really careful"

" I watch the weather"

" I am really experienced"

" I pick my days" 

Do any of you ever think that those are the same things that the guys who drown every year thought?          

Finally! After losing a few, we got one to the boat! 

Margaret Ferm, with her first St.Lawrence river musky. 

54 inches long, 26 inch girth, a little over 40 lbs.?

 Released to grow into the next World Record! 

I really enjoyed the musky inc meeting at O'briens this past saturday night.Nice meeting all you musky inc musky fanatics an the local musky guides.You guy's did a great job speaking and talking about your organization.Great job by capt. Bob , Waterwolf on the underwater footage...great stuff.

I hope all the Clayton area musky guides and fishermen realize what a benefit it would be to the st. Lawrence musky fishery by starting a local musky inc chapter in Clayton.I hope something get's going up there.

I'm headed back up there in the morning to do some musky trolling....can't wait...still haunted by that fish I lost a few weeks ago.

I really enjoyed the musky inc meeting at O'briens this past saturday night.Nice meeting all you musky inc musky fanatics an the local musky guides.You guy's did a great job speaking and talking about your organization.Great job by capt. Bob , Waterwolf on the underwater footage...great stuff.

I hope all the Clayton area musky guides and fishermen realize what a benefit it would be to the st. Lawrence musky fishery by starting a local musky inc chapter in Clayton.I hope something get's going up there.

I'm headed back up there in the morning to do some musky trolling....can't wait...still haunted by that fish I lost a few weeks ago.

I would rather see The St.Larry musky anglers and all NY State musky anglers UNITED, within the chapter you guys have already created. IMO this would be much better organized than many small chapters spread out through the State. Capt. Bob and myself will be joining Chapter 69, as well as promoting our clientele and peers to do the same.

We may be too busy out on the water to attend meetings and events, but that is no excuse not to be members and do what we can, PROMOTE.  We like the idea of the online meetings, and hope that idea pans out and becomes a reality! This would certainly help with the logistics of having a membership spread out over hundreds of miles of the State.  

What we don't need is many "organizations of one" throughout the State, not communicating with each other, and all chasing separate agendas. This will accomplish nothing. Creating an individual "legacy", will not help the musky population . We need to work together, to achieve common goals. 

Glad you guys came up to Clayton and we got a chance to meet many of you. looking forward to seeing you all again, and meeting more of you in the future!

Heading out on the River now, we have a little problem to solve......I think the Waterwolf was the only boat at that meeting, THAT HASN'T LANDED A MUSKY YET THIS SEASON!  

 

I assume that if you frequent this board, then you know about NY Muskies Inc already but...

 

We will be holding our October meeting up on the St Lawrence to provide information on the club, share a bit about our efforts on behalf of NY's muskie community, gain input from the local muskie fishing community and hopefully some new members:

• Saturday October 19th 2013 @  7 PM
• O’Briens Restaurant - 226 Webb St, Clayton, NY 

The meeting is open to the public: Non-members and prospective members welcome, no registration necessary. Join us at O’Briens to learn more about Muskies Inc. and help guide our future efforts. 

 

Guest Speakers: Capt’s Bob Walters and Darryl Raate of WaterWolf Charters

 

 

 

 

 

Capt. Bob and I were at O'Brians this evening. Bob brought a few of his "props", and set up a DVD player for the meeting. Buffy informed us that even though the dining room is open to the public, she believes most of her patrons will be heading outside by 7:30 pm for the concert on the River Walk. There is also a Pumpkin Chunkin' competition going on right there all that day with trebuchets and catapults throwing pumpkins out into the river! 

Clayton is a very festive town, expect good crowds. 

We will be running a charter all day, and plan on getting to O'Brians as soon as possible, maybe by 7:30- 8:00 pm? 

See you all there. 

Last Thursday, I moved the Rise Up, from Oswego to Clayton, in preparation of owner Capt. Kevin Murphy's upcoming musky season. 

We had a couple friends from the Rochester area join us for the ride.

After running across the lake we set up at Carleton island, and switched over the salmon gear, to musky gear. it only took a few minutes of trolling for a flat line pulling a Green Swim Whizz to connect to this 43 inch musky, out in 50 F.O.W. ! 

Here is happy angler Chris, with his first St.Larry musky.

Capt. Kevin on the swim platform, patiently pampering the fish back into a successful release! 

fishing was`nt good but did learn a few new areas.Water temps were 65 and the floating grass was`nt too bad.Still a pain though.Launched from cape vincent and fished down to tibbets point were i marked the only fish.Those were stuck on the bottom and did`nt look like muskie.Wound up fishing grenadier island area the rest of the day with nothing but a small pike that thought he was big by going after a cowgirl in mud bay.Heard of one muskie caught off tibbets a couple days prior and another around wilson bay,that was it.Pulling mr.toothy`s,depthraiders and muskellunchs around and lost one scotty rod holder off grenadier.Sorry not much info but hope it helps.

Bob

We are moving the Waterwolf from Oz-Clayton tomorrow! Plan on running the Lake to Grenadier..then setting up for the first musky troll of our season. Normally this trip would be my turn "on the rod"....but we sold it this year......mixed feelings about that...But I hope we hook up a good one for our client!  Wide awake, can't sleep....AND SO IT BEGINS. 

Ever year myself and a group of friends make the trip up to the eastern shore of lake Ontario, for a sort of cast and blast weekend. We are trying to catch ONE larry musky. Last year after a long day, 1st trying to get the boat in the water(there was none) we fished hard around Carleton island. not even a bump. The weeds were terrible just free floating around, it was hard to keep a bait in the water for more than a minute. I was curious if this year is looking the same with the weeds? and if Carleton island is a good place to start again? hows the water levels? Any pointers would be great we will be up oct 5th thru the 12th. Thanks.

Carleton Island, Tibbets point, Featherbed shoals, and Hinckley shoals are some of our favorite musky hunts in October-early November ! The weeds sure suck. Keep an eye on "The big picture" and you can usually determine what bay they are blowing out of, and relocate to a less weedy area for the day. All we do is troll...Keeping the rigs weed free is the hardest part of it, but the most important.    " Not even a bump"  ?  That's St Larry musky hunting !  Nothing happens...UNTIL IT DOES. 

 Funny that there isn't any reports of catching going on?

I can only say , that since labor day, there hasn't been much traffic out of Oswego, except for the local Charter boats, and a few recreational guys....I don't talk to the rec guys, i don't know what they are catching. 

But there has been a decent catch going on for some of the Charter boats. 

I guess its a matter of who posts what on the internet, and who catches what on the lake!

9 fish days in Oswego now? Where? When. That hasn't been happening for awhile now.

I guess that depends on what day and what boat you are on!   Tuesday and Wednesday were even better than that for most boats out of Oz. 

Who snapped the photo of us?

Photo compliments of LOU member "big brookie" Who is actually Capt. Greg Manning of Little Whip Charters ! 

Sorry your fish swam into us.  What a mess it created! 

Only good thing for us was, it was quitting time anyway, so we didn't have to reset the whole spread. 

You have our phone # now, Use it anytime you like, not just when your "big one" is heading our way!  

Deer season? Musky season? Fish in tribs? Marinas winterizing and putting away boats?

You will basically have the water to yourself! Have a great trip and be safe /wear your pfd's!

longer copper should be closer to the boat, so that if the outside line gets hit, it will swing in behind the boat above the deeper inside line. The other way around, the longer (deeper) outside line would tangle with the higher inside line when it got hit.

Tim

If you don't get tangles, you are not fishing aggressively enough.......

I agree with the torpedo weights. Another great tool in the arsenal!

There are 4 riggers on the boat. I was told that some days the fish dont like the riggers. Whats the best spread to start out each day? riggers and dipsy? and if the dipsy are hitting get the coppers out?

Again, The whole object is to find the depth the fish are striking at, and focus your efforts there.

If you are alone, start with 1 downrigger(probe) one dipsy, one copper. What ever fires, DUPLICATE.

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD. Sometimes less is more......and that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Just give me ONE, that works!

Is it possible and to run 3 coppers and 4 dipsys? I have a 400, 450, and 500 copper. 2 10-6 and 2 8 foot dipsys. I was thinking 400 and 450 on the planer boards. The 500 down the middle. The 10'-6" at a 3 setting on a size 1 dipsy. And the 8" at a 1.5 setting on a mag dipsy. So that's my master plan. I only have to wait till april to try it. This will be my first year on lake O with my own boat and last year was my first year that I got into fishing it a lot. I do understand if the fish are in 40 foot of water that my coppers will be no good. If someone can point me in the correct direction. ie, that is a good idea or you are stupid for thinking that. I need to get the most bang for my buck..........................................................................im going nuts i just want to fish!

We sometimes will have 5 coppers and 4 dipsys out at the same time, as well as three downriggers. But we run two coppers off of each board, and another down the chute. If our target "strike zone" is 20-50 feet down, we replace the coppers with leadcore. If the fish are hitting a 300 copper...we will put out 4-5 of them, and adjust our dipsys accordingly. By running all the same length coppers, we can slide the one in the chute to either board after the one on the board hooks up. Reset the one that fired back down the chute. Saves alot of cranking copper just to reset a longer one first, then redeploying a shorter one. but when that length copper shuts off...you have to change them all...We start by using a longer one down the chute, and a shorter one on the inside position on the boards...find the "strike zone" again, and FOCUS ON IT!

I understand not every boat has 30 copper rods aboard to play with either..... But we have a little problem with our tackle addiction

Hey all,

Just wondered if anyone heads south during the winter months for some fishing action and where your locale of choice is. We've gone to Naples FL area the past few times and have a good guide there who gets you into the action whatever your fancy may be. We were looking to try a new area (yet one that still doesn't cost a fortune to get/fly to). Any spots (and potentially guides) you'd recommend?

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Any advice for experienced trollers going for their first trip out on the big lake? We have an average weekend warrior setup consisting of 2 manual riggers, 2 cores (1 full and 1 7 color) and 1 dipsy. Also, have a decent variety of spoons, spinies, sticks and flies. Just looking for any last tips anyone can give before I pack and leave for the weekend. We will be launching out of Oswego and just lining up with the pack I'm assuming. I was wondering though, would it be worth it to head out deeper and look for numbers of immatures rather then fight the crowd? Any tips would be appreciated look forward to seeing you up there!

Thanks

This is good advice ." if you do decide to run in 100' fow, run your dipsy's 240-270' out on a #2 setting. go with white flashers in morning and greens or chrome after around 8 am" That's what is working for me also. Most of our hits have been coming first thing in the morning, slow all day, and then again a little flurry of action at sunset. Temperature went way down deep today...break was very sharp, concentrate your efforts on where that break meets bottom. When in doubt about speed, GO SLOWER.

Good luck.