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    When will they be back

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    Nope. They are still "gone". Went out this morning and went right to 600ish flow and worked in to 100fow. Got one really nice king in about 400ish on flasher fly " hammer time" and two lake trout when we got to 100 flow on spoons. Two very well known charter boats out of Oswego only caught a few browns and bass. The other only caught one king and that was it for him. At $800 a day I'd be bumming if I was those customers :( . Anyhow temp was down around 65-80 depending how much water I was over. Very little bait. Waiting for the good days to return!

    When you were in 600 fow, you should have just spent your efforts trolling WEST... ;) Instead of trolling in. The Charters are working the skinny water and concentrating on browns, to give their clients the best chance at the most hook ups. Yesterday was tough, but the last few days a quick near limit of quality browns has been taken, with time to slide out to the deeper inside water and more than a few kings are being taken with this approach. Yesterday afternoon a few of the Charters stayed in 200 fow, and caught 2-3 big kings for their efforts, while a bunch of us went out over 600 fow , and had more , with steelhead in the catch as well. West has been best, in the offshore waters. There are limitations when operating a business in how far you are going to travel in a six hour trip, and how much profit you are going to burn in gas. ;) Friday afternoon I ran out of Fairhaven, fished 600 fow in front of the silos, and boxed a limit of big kings in 4 hours . I was 18 miles from the Oswego Lighthouse, and wouldn't/couldn't run my Oswego charters that far yesterday...This morning , however, I am out of Fairhaven, and plan on returning to the same area!

    Good luck, keep searching, and remember it is called fishing, NOT CATCHING. :)

    oswego area

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    "i was using my cannon speed n temp sensor i no its the older one but it was workin when i put it in the water n when i would drop it down to find the temp it would just turn off on me any input on that sorry 4 the questions"

    Try putting a damp towell over your antenna, actually works sometimes. Also check your rigger cable for any spots where the insulation is stripped off and make sure you have a good connection at the probe.

    yup...wet towel works...until you get a new cable. ;)

    oswego area

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    "i was using my cannon speed n temp sensor i no its the older one but it was workin when i put it in the water n when i would drop it down to find the temp it would just turn off on me any input on that sorry 4 the questions"

    Try putting a damp towell over your antenna, actually works sometimes. Also check your rigger cable for any spots where the insulation is stripped off and make sure you have a good connection at the probe.

    yup...wet towel works...until you get a new cable. ;)

    RUFF RIDER Live Reports from Wilson 5/19-5/27

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    So one of our sliders got caught on the outdrive. The line broke while I was trying to get it, cant see what it's hooked on or where it is or if its still there. Should I take a swim to get it or take my chances?

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    I would make sure when you pull the boat to trailer home, you check/change your lower unit oil..... ;) Any water or milky oil in there and it would be wise to change your seal. Good luck.

    Wish I was out there this week...But I'm running charters in OZ..I will be back out this weekend though. Keep up the reports ! Lots of people like to follow you and your success via this thread! :D Where are the pictures of the dog? Make sure you throw that tennis ball twice as much as YOU want to. :rofl:

    Pup had too much play time hes down below sleeping! You think that lure could cause water to get in? Now im worried, I think theresa is goin swimmin when we get back to the marina... :)

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    There's always a possibility of fishing line getting wrapped in your prop, and causing damage to your lower unit seal..I wouldn't let it worry you to death...just check the oil in the lower unit when you are done. Really simple to check. Buy lower unit oil in squeeze bottle, open top vent, open lower fill hole, push new oil in from bottom up. until old oil comes out top..clean up mess. ;) Just remember that any water or milky oil will be in the bottom and last to come out the top....

    If the old oil comes out clean, water free..you have no problem with your seal. Any water or milky oil, and it is time to change your seal.

    If you are "mechanically challenged", have the wife do it! 8)

    RUFF RIDER Live Reports from Wilson 5/19-5/27

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    So one of our sliders got caught on the outdrive. The line broke while I was trying to get it, cant see what it's hooked on or where it is or if its still there. Should I take a swim to get it or take my chances?

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    I would make sure when you pull the boat to trailer home, you check/change your lower unit oil..... ;) Any water or milky oil in there and it would be wise to change your seal. Good luck.

    Wish I was out there this week...But I'm running charters in OZ..I will be back out this weekend though. Keep up the reports ! Lots of people like to follow you and your success via this thread! :D Where are the pictures of the dog? Make sure you throw that tennis ball twice as much as YOU want to. :rofl:

    heading to oswego tomorrow where should i start?

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    kdawg,

    I should be up thursday to saturday give me a shout on 68 (baytech).

    Raaven,

    What kind of set-ups were you running?

    Michigan stingers, normal size...riggers down 15-25 , 4 and 5 color leadcores off boards....anything green, with the green NITRO and the F/N spoons maybe doing the best early...NBK and gator later...Loraines tan line caught the biggest brown though. Our salmon came on green dolphin and NBK stingray size.

    Good luck.

    What are the steps to become charter?

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    I have tossed around the idea of chartering but I financially can not afford it right now. So I thought get a foot in the door and see what its really like. I have posted about "first mate" but no response, why is that ? Are there just an abundant of people wanting to be a first mate ? I am a rookie you could say , I have a gist of what I'm doing but need some direction / help.

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    Most boats already have a mate.. ;) BUT ALL BOATS NEED A RELIEF MATE. (things happen)

    Here is the problem.

    First off, no one wants a stranger on the boat....So start pounding the docks when the Captains are around and get to know them!

    Secondly, you NEED a Maritime Consortium Card. In order to get one you have to find a boat that will put you on their random drug testing program, (Costs the Captain about $65 per year) You have to PASS the drug test and any randoms that come up. Once you have the card, any Captain and the Coast Guard will accept it on any boat you are working on. It needs to be updated annually, offer to pay for it. ;)

    Third...you need some training. It's basic, a monkey can do it...but every boat has there own procedure to follow and expectations to meet. Most Captains HATE to train, but some will allow their Full Time Mate to train their own replacement guy. Don't expect to get paid for training.

    Now you have the qualifications to do the job. The more networking you do and contacts you make, the more you will work. Every Mate has conflicts of scheduling due to Doctors appointments, weddings , funerals, personal days, and sick days. (life goes on)

    As well as scheduled charters, be prepared to answer your phone for last minute emergencies. usually 3 am-4am. calls ! :o The more Captains and Full Time Mates that KNOW you, and have your number, the more work you will find...until a point you might get lucky and find a Full Time position on a boat!

    And then you will need to find a qualified relief Mate yourself..... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Good luck, there is a lack of people doing this in the industry. But tons of "strangers" that just want to be handed a full time job on a Charter boat running 100 trips a year!

    Copper off Outriggers

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

    Posted

    Guys - I would like to run coppers off the small boat without being down the shoot or having to deploy big boards ( not a fan of inlines!!) . Has anyone been running their coppers off outriggers and if so what are the pitfalls??

    Thx

    Only pitfall I know of is distance from side of boat? I've used Aftco roller releases, but prefer a fresh #16 rubberband. Sure beats down the shoot, but fiesty fish still get over there and in it sometimes!

    Niagara Pro Am - Where can I get a slip and hotel?

    in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars

    Posted

    Gotta love the Lake O guys. Can't even get advise about logistics let alone speeds, depths, colors, etc...
    You have the internet.... :thinking::thinking:

    3 minute search and I did YOUR HOMEWORK for you....

    Newfane Marina (716) 778-5462

    McDonough Marine (716) 778-7665

    Wilson Boatyard (716) 751-9202

    Sunset Bay Marina (716) 751-6466

    Harbor Resort (716) 778-5190

    Lighthouse Motel (716) 778-7270

    Lake Ontario Motel 1-800-446-5767

    Lakeview Motel (716) 791-8668

    That should get you started? or should I call and make reservations for you also?

    Once there and fishing, go 17 miles west and fish BIG DROPOFF , use green spoons, some days purple, put them down 50-80 feet, troll 2.1-3.0 mph.... :lol::lol::lol:

    Best of luck to you in the Pro-am.

    What are the steps to become charter?

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    In my opinion, and the veteran full time guys can correct me if I'm wrong, I think you

    need to have way more days than I can fish now to truly make a liveable profit.

    John

    You are correct, John. After you figure out what it's going to COST YOU to run this business, you can come up with a "Break Even" analysis...

    How many trips does it take to break even yearly?

    Everybody's situation being a little different, but I would bet most Charter Boat Operations break even between 30-40 charters. If your rates are low thinking you will get more business...it might be up to 50 charters?

    Blown off today..... ;( No pay for me....But it cost me $40 to go to work and back.

    What are the steps to become charter?

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    i own and operate my own small business now and make decent money doing it. i have no employees to avoid the headaches of the slow seasons and the drama that can come along with employees. My schedule is pretty flexible. Looking to just start out slow and small and feel my way into. I currently know many river guides and charter captains that are very against the new guys and the part timers but how else do u become a full timer. ya gotta start somewhere! By cost analysis what do i need to include? Fuel, tackle, insurance, advertisement costs etc... what else am i missing? im sure alot! Again this is not something im gonna do over nite but make no mistake im gonna do it one way or another. Dont mean to sound cocky or arrogant im just determined to do something more fun with the second half of my life. :)

    The biggest complaint I have heard over the years about "new guys" and" Part Timers" and "Pension Pilots" has been the attitude that they are going to fill their books by cutting prices of the established businesses . This never bothered me. If you want the "cheap guy" that goes away from me, to fish with you over a hundred bucks or better..YOU CAN HAVE HIM! :*

    You are going to be out of business in no time anyway, and that cheap guy will always be looking for the next better deal.

    He is not the clientele I want.

    This business has less to do with CATCHING FISH and more to do with catching KEEPER clientele.

    Include in your cost analysis...

    Dockage, storage, maintenance, upgrades in equipment, Travel expenses, (you have to get to work somehow?) savings (you better have a few grand tucked away for the bad day you hit a log, or blow an engine) plus a bunch of small stuff like licencing, twic cards, maritime consortium, IRS (they want theirs) accounting costs, and expect everything to go up in price yearly, except your rates.... :(

    Oh, and throw in the four weekends in a row you are doubled up in charters and THE WIND BLOWS, and you have to return DEPOSITS that you already spent six months ago when you received them! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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