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I hunt in brockport and it doesn’t seem to matter, there are slammers everywhere around here. Now, they are not easy to kill but I’m of the opinion that from conesus to buffalo there are as many big bucks as anywhere. Problem is it’s all private but the ag and apples grow these deer big.

What a public land buck!

Bucks chasing does out of Northampton park this morning on my way to Brockport. Feels like a good morning to shoot a buck!

1 hour ago, Gator said:

I will offer the flip side and be devils advocate. We have leased property in Albion for over twenty years. The 90 acre property is long and narrow. There are some stands near the property line with the neighbor to the West (two out of a dozen). We have never shot over the property line and never would, but we have had wounded deer die on his property, usually within fifty yards of the edge. In fact, we have had to call for permission to track deer that were shot from stands on the OTHER side of the property, so moving the two stands would not change the fact that deer go to his land to die (good cover, I guess).

 

Every time, we have to listen to the father, who's older, dress us down for having stands on the property line. They don't shoot does and they own a double wide lot. We have been denied access once, and because two deer last weekend died on their property (both visible from the line), I'm afraid that we will be denied access in the future.

 

It sucks. I don't even want to hunt over there. Which I suspect is the purpose, but really?? If we have to recover one or two deer a year, I'm not sure how that interferes with their hunting. The deer are invariably close to the line, and we don't mess us the rest of their property. Hunting should be relaxing, an escape, not yet another source of BS. Communication has been futile, and we've just accepted it as a caveat of leasing there. But it really sucks.

So your situation I understand. But constant marginal shots, undersized deer shooting and then retrieving 200+ yards into bedding area is more my gripe. Your situation seems ethical, and the deer are expiring quickly. If it was a 20 , 50, heck 100 yard quick pop over the line to grab a deer, then I wouldn’t care at all. It’s about constantly wounding deer and then not finding them but spending hours over the line tracking. It’s such a pain. 

21 minutes ago, Smat64 said:

Treat others how you want to be treated.

 

Your huge buck of a lifetime could run on their property too.

 

Tell them the situation and request they call you 1st. Ensure you are not hunting that day and you could help them or do the tracking on your property yourself.

This is true. Cooler heads did prevail and I suppose I may need the favor repaid some day.

The line is posted every 20 yards. Gates are up restricting entry. I did give permission to track but I guess the point of this is that I am thinking about straight up not even allowing that. I just feel bad costing someone the opportunity at retrieving a deer but then again, maybe make a better shot.....

So as the title states I have a neighbor who insists on setting up yards over the property line, virtually guaranteeing that a wounded deer will run onto ours or the other neighbor’s property, they wound deer every year and this year they have wounded three and recovered none. 
 

Last night was the icing on the cake as a small buck was shot and then they tracked into my bedding area honey hole. Now I said they could (cause I don’t have the heart to be a dick) but when is enough, enough? I’m so sick of being careful and scent controlled only to have other people ruin it!!!!

Anyone else seeing a sudden shift in movement from the mature bucks to the small guys? The bruisers are no where to be seen but the smaller guys are harassing and cruising all over. Just a week ago I was seeing my big boys cruising, makes me wonder if they found a doe to lockdown with....

Tons of chasing this morning all over my CRP fields. No shooters though, just borderline and small bucks......

2 minutes ago, LakerTaker said:

I replaced the factory scope on my Excalibur with a Vortex Crossfire II. It has holdover points out to 100 yards. Not an expensive scope ($199) but I like the extra range for target shooting. Ravin sells a similar longer range scope ($359).


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I think I am going to go with a Tenpoint Wicked Ridge Invader 400. I would have to replace the scope though and I would probably but a speed ring Hawke on it. Sucks, I wish they would just sell the bare crossbow as an option. 

6 minutes ago, Gator said:

 

As with anything, if you practice then your chances improve. I practice to 50 yards so that 30 yards feels like a chip shot. But I'd never shoot beyond 35 yards at most, regardless. Elk hunters practice like you out to 70-80 yards and sometimes need the range. 

 

A crossbow bolt will tend to be impacted by distance more than an arrow from a compound. This means that determining an accurate range for the shot becomes essential at longer distances. I suspect that in the moment most hunters would have a tough time distinguishing between 45 and 55 yards, particularly in the woods, which can be catastrophic. Again, preparation makes a huge difference. It is tough to get around how loud crossbows can be though - and we all know that deer love to "jump the string" lol. 

 

Some guys certainly manage longer shots, but they really know their equipment. Many, many more think they've won the election...I mean make long shots...without evidence. I expect there to be a bunch of injured deer running around today.  

Totally understand the point, hardwoods would be tough to navigate a arcing arrow at long distances! My situation is more open fields and CRP, where the chance at a 50-60 yard shot could mean a nice 140” buck. But yes, not a situation to take slightly and something that must be practiced for!

Huh, my buddy has taken three bucks over 50 with a crossbow and feels very confident about that shot. I also feel very confident about shots at 45 with my compound bow (I practice a lot out to 70-80 yards) so I guess it’s not too much of a difference maker. Thanks for the input guys

Thinking about getting into the crossbow game to extend my range and open my options up a bit. Any specific recommendations? I keep reading that a lot of the crossbows come with junk scopes, so I am looking to avoid that. 

Thanks!

The huge eight just out of range again. Unreal. 

Glad to see that the warm temps didn’t keep the activity down last night, I had deer around me as well. Let’s hope the need to procreate is stronger than the need to stay cool! Mornings should start to take the edge in production in the next few days though 

Deer are def moving. Between me and my buddy many bucks sighted including a nice shooter right on a doe. He then worked a scrape and split off to do his own thing 

I don’t think the warm fronts will matter much, deer will be comfortable and moving all the same as the rut moves into full swing. Scrapes around me just went ice cold, sure sign that bucks are up to other things. Had a huge 8 at 69 yards last night as he lumbered around in search of does, many daylight pics of shooters......only need one mistake. 

Back in the stand and already bleated in a small buck. They are moving today 

21 minutes ago, Roys Boys said:

Called in a shooter 50 yards for a buddy of mine that wants to get one mounted on state land. Wind was hitting us in the face all morning didn’t dress warm enough so now I’m home! Rattle make noise! Get deer curious! don’t use rattle bags or any thing that’s not real antlers.. bucks are starting to get territorial

How on earth did they hear you? Wind was whippin! Bucks where still on the move as I had a few around, none big enough though 

I’m out here too and it’s nuts, did have a smaller buck at 10 yards though 

Just had a nice bodied but small rack six at 10 yards. Why can’t my big deer do that 

So who Is gonna let one fly by moonlight this morning? 🤣🤣

9 minutes ago, Legacy said:

October 28 pm
50 degrees
Partly sunny
SW 5-15 mph

An unbelievable night on stand. Crazy numbers. Insane amount of bucks. It seemed like non stop chasing. Every time i scanned there was another doe getting chased. Had one of my target bucks just out of reach with the bow tonight. About 40-50 yards. Deer was bedded downwind of me and traveled directly into the wind right freaking past me. Ugh. I guess that says a lot about ozone and scent control.




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You using ozonics?

Finally starting to make daytime mistakes on my property. This is a slammer out in my rye plot with some does, in the next pic he walks away from them though. I still do think next week it’s gonna be on. 
 

Much better movement tonight, four smaller bucks and 5 doe. They are def starting to snif after the does but the does are having none of it.