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    Sandy Pond Report 8/23-26

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    Fished Sat - Monday.  

     

    Saturday - found some active fish at around 9:30 - 11:30 in about 120 FOW. Landed 2 Kings (teenagers) and 1 Coho. Two fish on the downriggers and our first one of the year on the dipsy. Action died but when we were picking up we found we were dragging a skippy.  Don't know how long it was on there but Im sure it played a part in our action coming to an end.  Came in for food and headed back out but didn't move a rod in the afternoon.   

     

    Sunday - Couldn't get anything going.  We did land one early in the same depth.  Lost what we think was a good brown about 15 feet from the boat. Than landed a laker on the 450 copper. Moved to a spoon program to see if we could get a steelie or a brown.  Two releases and one break off (12lb flouro) on the spoons down about 60. Did land a 6-7 lb steelie (blue dolphin stinger) that performed some awesome acrobatics.    

     

    Monday - Got out there super early to see if we could land a couple early before the ride home.  Ended up getting one on the a 275 dipsey.  Had a short strike on the copper and another on the dipsey.  Called it quits at 10:30 and drove home.  Hoping to be out their this Saturday.  

     

    Overall another slow weekend.  We picked a few salmon but I have to say the fishing was tough.  Radio talk was about the same.  One here and there.  Seemed like a lot of guys were getting lakers.   Plenty of good temp. out there now.  But very few marks.  They just seemed spread out.  Only found one good concentration of fish all weekend but never found them again.  All my salmon were on FF but than again that is mostly all I run.   

     

    We never went too deep.  It seemed once we left the 120 FOW there was void of life.  Tons of boats out there.  We counted 71 Monday morning.  Im sure there was way more than that but that was what we could see.  

    Kings and Age/Size

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    How can you tell if a fish is mature?  Also, can you tell males from females easily without killing them? 

     

    I mature will usually be of a darker color.  The skin on a mature is much tougher and it will seldom lose any scales.  A mature will usually begin to develop teeth and if it is a male a kype.   You definitely can't go by size because you can have one year (jacks) that have reached the end of their life cycle.  Not sure what makes some salmon spawn at 4 1/2 and some at 3 1/2 or even 1 1/2.  

     

    Sometimes distinguishing a male and female without killing it is pretty much impossible but other times can be done. From my experiences the fatter ones are usually the females because they are carrying the eggs.  But usually the number one difference is the shape of the mouth.  

    Kings and Age/Size

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    Ok just read fin clipping (adipose) was done thru 2011. Was not done in 2012 but I believe was done in 2013.

    Reviewing the pictures of 3 matures that I caught this weekend I noticed only one of them were fin clipped which would mean this fish was in fact 3 1/2 years old.

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    Kings and Age/Size

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    Thanks for the reply capt. This gives me a better understanding of age of salmon caught in the summer/fall.

    I did notice that probably 80% of my fish last year were wild fish (no fin clip). Unfortunately the hatchery stopped the fin clipping and if I recall correctly this will be the last year of the fin clipped fish and those will have to be 4 1/2 year olds.

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    Kings and Age/Size

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    I was thinking anything over 25lbs was a 4 yr old but I am no pro that is for sure.  Seems like last year one weekend all I got was 20-22lbs and than another weekend were all 25-29lbs.  i guess the bigger ones could be females.  All the ones I got this weekend were male in that 20-22lb range.  And had plenty of bait in them.  

     

    So if the floods were 4 years ago that would be this years mature fish at 3.5 years old.    

    Kings and Age/Size

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    I been reading all the discussions this year about mature kings and about the Salmon River floods four years ago.  This was the talk of the town when i was up this weekend.  

     

    After landing 8 kings this weekend, I am trying to get a better understanding of age and weight.  That is if there is a correlation which i would assume there is.  We landed 3 matures all around 20lbs and I am thinking these are 3 year olds. We also landed 2 10-12lbers and I am assuming these are 2 year olds.  Also landed a few skippies and thinking these are the 1 year olds.  

     

    Along with watching the LOC board and listening to the radio talk there definitely seems to be a shortage of Salmon over the 25lb mark which I believe (let me know if I am wrong) are 4 year olds.  The good news is that there seems to be more of the smaller kings in the salmon river area that I have ever seen.  Out of the 30 or so kings I got last year I dont think I got one under 20lbs.  

    Out of the pond - Pictures added.

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted · Edited by f1sh-0n

    Dropped off my boat for a month in Sandy pond sat. Decided not to venture out Saturday which turned out to be a very wise choice. Winds were howling sat. Night. From the weather predictions we were just hoping to get out Sunday afternoon. Well buddy and I woke up at 3am to no wind at all. Decided to head out in the morning instead. At about 8:30 in 220fow we found a nice active school of salmon. There was only one other boat in site. We honestly could not keep up with just the two of us. We ended up getting 3 matures all in 20-22lbs range And 2 2 year olds. It only lasted maybe 2 hours and it was over (5 for 7). we were both thinking wow this is going to be a easy. Not soo much. Spent the rest of the afternoon looking for those active 20lbers. monday morning we went back to the same spot (pretty bumpy but fishable). Only got one 2 year old about 10lbs and a skippy. Got to the point I had to move a rod so I got my buddy his personal best laker. Than another and than got bored with the wet boots and went back to our target. Woke up today to 44 degrees. Fishing no different than monday except being much calmer. We had a couple releases and only one skippy. Temps were pretty much at 150 down all three days. We tried areas from 250 to 150. We were marking tons of smaller marks at all depths this morning. We think 1 year olds since we did have a shaker today but who knows. from all the talk on the radio i am starting to get concerned about this year's class. Only heard of one or two fish over 25lbs and that's from radio talk. Good news is it does seem like there are more 2 year olds and skippers that i ever remember catching in that area this time of the year. I'll post pics in the morning.

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