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Anyone know where I can get a bulk spool of 30# big game in rochester?

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Bahtenda

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):7-10-2011

Time on Water:6am-4pm

Weather/Temp:Overcast then sunny, had to be in the upper 80's low 90's mid day.

Wind Speed/Direction:a little calming to nothing, then back to a little

Waves: started with a 1' chop, went flat for the rest of the day

Surface Temp:Saw 73.6 pretty consistently

Location:

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: 20ish

Total Boated:11

Species Breakdown:Kings, Steelies, Laker, browns

Hot Lure: NK28 Glo Frog, NBK, Hammer Fly

Trolling Speed: 2.5

Down Speed: n/a

Boat Depth: 170-340

Lure Depth: 30-140

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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We don't have a probe, so I can't provide down temps or down speed. We use our GPS for speed.

Setup for our best day yet in 190' of water first, and had a double with Brown's before we got the sixth rod in the water, lost the bigger one but boated my personal best brown...(maybe 7lbs?) on the glo frog down 70' on a rigger. Got all the rods down and had a 12" brown hit the same glo frog. Had a skipper king hit a lazer spook down 45' on the same rigger over 220'. Trolled into 180' to see what the party was all about (the few other boats out seemed to be bunched up in closer than we were) and a dipsy rod slammed into the rigger rods and we had a screamer on. Took about 100yds of line and jumped a few times before we had our Skamanian on the boat. It ate a NK28 NBK behind a green glo LJ 8" flasher off a mono dipsy back 100' on a 2.5 setting. Does anyone ever put a spoon behind a SD or flasher? I only had two flies, so I improvised. I had one fly behind a SD tight to the ball on a rigger and the other on the 2nd mono dipsy rod on the other side behind a flasher. We worked in to 170 but had no action so we went back to our 180' mark and stuck around that picking up the remaining fish. After that we picked up a 4-5lb steelhead on a hammer fly off the other dipsy back 140'. Next up was the 70' rigger with the green glo NK28 and we boated our first fighting king of the year, a 6.5lb fish. This fish made a run across the surface when it was dead calm and it was reminiscent of jaws...you could see the fin and tail the whole way across and the line was ripping across the surface! Then, another 6lb king on the hammer fly/dipsy back 140, then a laker on the NBK off the dipsy back 100'. Around 330pm we decided to troll towards the bay. At 4pm in about 140' FOW we lost what I believe was a laker and decided that after we cleaned off all the fleas, it was time to pick up. We had cleared all the rods but the rod at 100 on one rigger and the rod at 45 on the other rigger. At this moment my friend exclaimed..."nice mark at 50" and as we turned around the 45 rod went off...the glo frog. By the time I gained control of the rod, a rocket was launching out of the water about 100' back and we watched the best acrobatics I've seen as I reeled in a beautiful 10lb steelie! We released all but this fish and the 6.5lb king I caught...the king was hooked through the gills and despite a long revival effort I couldn't get the steelie to come around. Hate when that happens.

The fleas were bad, but we still have the 20lb on, no more being lazy for this crew. Does anyone know where I can get a bulk spool of 30# big game around Rochester?

Thanks guys!

Bobs boy....I am familiar with setting up cheaters, but thanks for the offer. I haven't considered running wire because I thought that it would ruin the eyes on my rods, they are older rods and I thought that in order to run wire, leadcore, and copper you needed a special rod so it wouldn't break them. Is that not the case?

Bill, thanks for the report. Sounds like your finding the same stuff we are. I would love to fish out of Sandy or the Oak, or even Braddocks...but it's my friends boat and he thinks that running out of the bay is fine. I think I've built up enough ammo to convince him to trailer to Sandy or the Oak. I grew up fishing out of the Oak and I just miss that place. I met a ton of great people up there when I was an observer in the pro-am.

Thanks guys!

Bobs boy....I am familiar with setting up cheaters, but thanks for the offer. I haven't considered running wire because I thought that it would ruin the eyes on my rods, they are older rods and I thought that in order to run wire, leadcore, and copper you needed a special rod so it wouldn't break them. Is that not the case?

Bill, thanks for the report. Sounds like your finding the same stuff we are. I would love to fish out of Sandy or the Oak, or even Braddocks...but it's my friends boat and he thinks that running out of the bay is fine. I think I've built up enough ammo to convince him to trailer to Sandy or the Oak. I grew up fishing out of the Oak and I just miss that place. I met a ton of great people up there when I was an observer in the pro-am.

Nice work! Where you marking fish and bait when you were catching those? We don't have a probe, so it's tough to tell where the temps are. Last weekend all the bait we marked was between 30-50 feet down, it was a straight line across the screen at 50', so it was obvious then. When I fished out of the oak growing up guys would share that kind of info over the radio, but now I'm just adjusting to where I'm marking bait.

Will I be able to get dipsies down far enough with the mono?

We've fished out of I-bay for the past three weekends, and had about the same success every time (we've had as few as 6 and as many as 11 in a day). I'm not complaining about having 8 releases....I know we could get skunked very easily. I'd rather jump for a shaker than just sit there all day and not have anything happen. I guess I'm just expecting to pick up a decent fish every once in a while, something that actually puts up a fight. It seems like everyone else is catching steelies, decent kings, and nice lakers. Our biggest fish has been a 7-8# (being kinda generous) laker. 3 cohos boated were in the 22" range, and all the kings have been skippers. We don't have any copper or leadcore setups, all we have is mono, riggers and dipsies. We got brave on Saturday and put the two riggers at a 45 degree angle off the back with 2 rods on each and ran two dipsies off either side in the rod holders with FF combos. That's a lot of line in one place, but we didn't have any tangles all day, so I guess it worked. We're fishing off of a 20' boston whaler with a 7' beam, so things can get pretty tight.

I would love to run flasher/fly combo's on the riggers, but we only have two riggers and I've been nervous to stack lines with something that spins so much. We have been running two rods on each rigger, since we only have the two riggers and don't have copper or leadcore to use planer boards. I guess I might just be getting a little jealous reading about all the big kings and screaming drags.

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Bahtenda

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):7/2

Time on Water:6am-12

Weather/Temp:Hot and Sunny

Wind Speed/Direction:Minimal out of the SE

Waves:.5' and decreasing

Surface Temp:64-65

Location:

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits:8

Total Boated:6

Species Breakdown:Lakers, Cohos, Kings

Hot Lure: NBK, Lazer Spook

Trolling Speed: 2.2-3.0

Down Speed: n/a

Boat Depth: 170-300

Lure Depth: 30-90

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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Started out in 200 FOW and worked out to a quick drop off to 300, then back around 250 for a while. Tried in to about 170, then back out to 200, then trolled back in to about 120 and picked up. Had riggers at 90, 70, 65, and 40 as well as two dipsys on mono out 90' and 140' (2.5 setting). Skipper Kings on the lazer spook and Lakers on the spooks and NBK on the riggers. One coho on the NBK and one on a silver hammer fly behind a LJ flasher (6" long) and the other on a spook on the rigger line. Only marked one good pod of bait and didn't get a hit near it. Pretty much a blank screen otherwise.

Do I need to lauch somewhere else? Is it possible that the fishing is that much better elsewhere on the lake? We've only had one screamer (that didn't make it to the boat) out of I-Bay this year. I'm not sure if I'm just not doing something right, if it seems so much better else where because there aren't any ROC guys really posting on here (I know there's a couple of you), or if it really is a geographical thing. Any suggestions?

I guess I missed part of your post Chuck.....are you saying to put the spoons 70-100' behind the ball? I only put them about 15-20 back. We ended up with 2 releases and one was a small laker. Both were on the west side, in 150 FOW, the fish came on a NK28 NBK as did the to other release we didn't get. We marked a fair amount of fish and bait, but nothing wanted to play...maybe I didn't have a long enough lead on the riggers?

We don't have a probe on the boat, but all the bait we marked was in the 30-50' down area...everywhere we went.

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Brian/Bahtenda

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):6/26

Time on Water:6am-12:30

Weather/Temp:Overcast/65?

Wind Speed/Direction:10ish from the WNW

Waves: 2-3'

Surface Temp:64

Location:

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: 7

Total Boated:5

Species Breakdown:Skipper Kings and a Laker

Hot Lure: Lazer Spook

Trolling Speed: 2.2-3

Down Speed:

Boat Depth: 45-150

Lure Depth: 20-70

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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We started out in about 80' FOW and worked North and West to 150'. Had rigger rods set at 70, 50, 40, and 20 with two pulling spooks, one dirty white boy and one NBK, all 28's. First 3 fish were skipper kings, one I had a release with no fish and when I brought the ball up the bottom line had a hitchhiker on it. We had one solid release that produced a 6-7lb Laker, which was a friends first trolling fish, and first laker...so that was cool. Had one more skipper shake a rod after that and that was it. Saw a lot of boats out deeper but a possible loose prop kept us from going any further. We ended up hitting a productive waypoint from last weekend in 85 FOW where we were marking a lot of bait and fish but had no takers this time. Added a dipsy 75' back with a 0 setting on mono down the chute (I know....asking for trouble!) with a hog wild SD and Silver Hammer fly as we tried to go shallow up to 45' and get in on all the browns I've been reading about but couldn't make that happen either. Well, I learned that they probably dive deeper on the 0 setting because it had zebra mussels on it when I brought it in. Yet to put a big fish in the boat this year, only had one screamer so far that got off on his second run. Hopefully next time!

Hey, thanks a lot for the tips! I'll be sure to report back on how we do. Gonna go with downriggers and spoons, maybe a dipsy and maybe a SD/Fly...if it gets real boring, we'll try to jig something up. Not sure how much everyone else will be into the jigging part though. Good luck!

Can anyone give me a quick setup for fishing canandaguia? I am more versed in fishing Ontario but am going to to give Canandaguia a try tomorrow. I'm interested in what lures and at what speed to troll and I just read about people jigging....what kind of setup should I be jigging with?

Looks like I'm getting blown off the big lake tomorrow so I have started to research Canandaguia. What kind of jigs are you talking about? I plan on trolling but I would like to try the jigging thing if we need to.

Thanks for the sketch Tim!

Landshark,

I am running them on 2.5 and sometimes 3 with all mono. I'd be running mainly spoons or a SD and fly combo (whatever I hear is working best on the LOU site!) I just want to be able to get six lines in the water without putting the big planer boards out.

Do you guys run planers all year? If it is an effective method all summer long, I wouldn't mind putting the mast back up and going with them....but I know the fishing is deeper in the summer and I don't have any lead or copper to get it down if I put it out on a planer board.

Would it be safe to run a dipsy diver off the side in a rod holder if I have a 4' boom off the same side? It seems like it would be a nightmare waiting to happen.

Also, can I run a copper line on a regular downrigger rod and reel? The ones I have are kind of old, but still work just fine, the problem I see is that they only hold maybe 350yds of 25# mono, so there wouldn't be enough room to put the amount of copper needed to get it down there. Am I right about this?

I am looking for a way to run two more rods off a fairly small boat. There are two riggers but we want to be able to run six rods and not tangle everything up. Can I use inline planers with mono? How would I get any depth behind the board? I don't have any rods setup with copper or lead, and don't think I have any that will hold up to either. We've been using dipsy divers but they don't really go away from the boat like I expected them to. Any suggestions?

Anyone ever have a problem with Walker Deep Trollers backing the tightening knob off the spool and having them freespool while retrieving the ball? It happened to my friend last year, and he got all the new "hardware" (washers, knob, etc.) and I looked at the other one, put this one back together, but it freespooled a few times on us on Saturday. Enough that we stopped using it since it doesn't have the handle on it to hand crank it.

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:Bahtenda

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):6/18, 6/19

Time on Water:1pm-5pm, 6am-6pm

Weather/Temp:

Wind Speed/Direction:

Waves:

Surface Temp: 64-62, 64.5-59

Location:I-Bay

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: 5 Saturday and 11 Sunday

Total Boated:3 Sat/6Sundat

Species Breakdown:Skipper Kings, Lakers, Coho

Hot Lure: NBK, Lazer Spook, Emerald NK28 (green, gold and siver?)

Trolling Speed: 2-2.8

Down Speed: same

Boat Depth: 50-160

Lure Depth: 30-90

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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This was our first time on the lake in a few years, so we used the info gained by reading these posts, and tried to just get something to bite. We didn't care what species. Since people reported catching browns shallow, we setup in 60' and just worked our way out watching the screen amd never made it much past 120'. The first rigger line down popped as I was setting up a stacker, and I figured I just didn't have the release set right, but it was a skipper king on the MK28 Lazer Spook down 20'. At least the skunk was out of the boat! Next fish was a Laker on a NBK on mono dipsy set to 2.5 and back 100 (that's about 30-35' down right?). We caught another skipper king, and missed a few releases after that.

Sunday we started in 80' of water worked out to 160, we marked a few fish out in 150' and managed a few releases, 2 skipper kings, and a 5lb laker. Then we worked that depth for a while in one direction, made a swing back into 70-80', marked a lot of bait for a few minutes, never got a release and eventually continued on. We landed a nice laker where we weren't marking anything, then had an exciting moment on the dipsy out 140' on mono, with a Hawg Wild SD and an Atomik silver hammer, but it got off. THEN....we had our first good ripper of the year on the Spook down 76 in 85' of water. It spooled a bunch of line out, surfaced, ran back to the boat, and when it turned again and started taking line for a second, GONE! Oh well, that was exciting for a bit. Worked that area a little while longer and picked up another 6-7lb laker off the Emerald down 55'.

Never marked anything with consistency, and only about half of our releases came after seeing something on the screen. It is cool to watch them streak up or down and then have a release though (happened a couple times). Will be out again this weekend, trying to make it happen. Thanks to all who post so generously here and I hope that I can return the favor in some way with my info.

Name: Brian

Location: Rochester

Home Port:I-Bay and others

Boat Name/Type: Bahtenda-Boston Whaler 20' Outrage

I fish for: Trout and Salmon

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Found this site a couple weeks ago as a friend and I were finishing up preparing his boat for the season. I haven't fished the LO for 12yrs or so, and it has been a few for him as well. I went out as an observer in one of the Pro-Am's, and have been reading this site soaking up as much of the generously given information as possible. Will do my best to contribute! Thanks to all who post reports and advice. Our first weekend out this past weekend was a success.

Sheared three studs off a trailer wheel last night and need to find a new disk brake rotor for a loadrite trailer today so the weekend is lost completely. Any ideas? It's a 2008 Loadrite with a 10" Rotor. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

What are the best places to buy tackle for trolling in Rochester? Line, lures, downrigger accessories, etc.

Thanks guys! Just getting back into fishing the lake after an absence of about 14yrs, so I'm trying to hit the ground running and this site has been a big help. (so was being an observer this weekend in the Pro-Am!)

So, the fleas stick to your line and lures and gum up the eyes on the rod and the reels? What's the deal with using 30#, is the diameter just big enough that they can't attach to it?

I have been reading a lot about what line to use and everyone seems to be talking about the "fleas". Can someone tell me what the deal is with them? More specifically, what is the problem they are causing? What is the best way to avoid it? What do they look like or how can I tell when I need to start dealing with them?