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The water will probably still be pretty cold by then. My tradition of hitting the night bite for the walleye opener is probably not gonna happen this year.
I would start with two riggers with spoons for salmon and sliders riding high with super slims for coho and drop back steelhead. Two divers with flasher/flies, 200-300’ coppers on inside boards and 2 and 3 colors with small orange coho flashers and blue/green peanut flies on outside boards. That’s our typical charter spread for early to mid may. Of course you will have to adjust. If divers are hot and coppers not, swap out and run 4 divers.
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I sold this boat in 2015. Have a 2001 Starcraft Superfisherman 196 now and tourney fish on a 31’ Tiara.
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Your definitely going to want all 1000’. If you have 300’ out and nice king rips it, you could easily be stretched out to 700’ in no time. Spool it on one reel, add your backer to fill then fill other reel from that one. Makes sure you remember how much backer you needed and start the next reel off with that amount and 1000’ of wire should fill it.
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Riggers- Okuma Classic Pro 8’6” rod, Size 30 reels filled with 30# mono, whatever flavor you like. I like Maxima.
Divers- Shimano TDR 8’6” and 10’6” if running two per side, size 30 reel fills perfectly with 1000’ torpedo 19 strand. Make sure you tape the wire to the reel or it will spin. I love the 19 strand, overhand knot to secure to swivel (see Fish Doctor website for knot directions) no crimps needed. You can use braid if you like as well, but the fleas really stick to it.
Copper- I would forget the copper for your first few times. Usually more of a hassle and a long fight with a lot of line out. If you must get copper, I would get a couple 300’s and add weight if you need to get deeper. 500 coppers really sucks to change out or bring in fish.
Leadcore- leadcore can be deadly for steelhead offshore that time of year. We have been seeing some nice size to the fish the last few years too. Can be used for salmon too depending on water temp.
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Harnesses are good early, bottom bouncing or dragging bottom on riggers and popping them off through any schools you see. But spoons and sticks are where it’s at for summer.
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Sorry they’re whiptail blades. Here’s the site I ordered them through. Get some floaters too for bottom bouncing
http://www.walleyesupply.com/whiptail-blades/
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I’ve had great success with these hatchet blades. In my favorite color, gold of course. I’ll see if I can remember where I got them at. If you use quick change clevises, you can have less harnesses and just switch out the blades. Much neater than having pool noodles bouncing around everywhere.
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Definitely come around the middle to end of may. From Olcott to the bar, It’s a great mixed bag of lake trout, coho, Browns, and the kings start showing up. There’s usually a ton of bait around and like stated earlier, the spring LOC derby is going on, as well as some other big money tour it’s like the WHI and the Niagara Pro Am.
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Can you network the fish finders to share one transducer? That would be the way I’d go. We get interference from our bow mounted transducer so I wouldn’t try two ducers.
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TX44 is way overkill and won’t track right for what you’re doing. They need the weight of a 200 to 300 copper to run correctly. A walleye board or tx22 would be perfect for you. I run both with 30 lb braid, leadered down to 12 lb flouro for 25’, then my sticks or harness. They track well in up to a 3’ chop, then it depends on speed a lot.
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42 minutes ago, pap said:
Hey Slammin how the hell are you?? I didn't hear or see ya on the sight for a long time. I often wondered about how you were making out, but I didn't want to stir the dust up!! I'm so greatful that you replied!! I knew your predicaments. Best of luck listen to the docs, nothing to F'k around with. My father in law found out he had cancer 8/17 and passed away last night. Good to hear from ya buddy, Fish ON man!!! Mike aka PAP
I’m good bud. I worked my ass off after my chemo radiation therapy ended this summer to stack some money for the pending surgery this fall. Had a successful resection with temporary ileostomy on oct 3rd. Just been trying to recover and battle through some complications since then. There was two positive lymph nodes and some vascular intrusion outside of the tumor bed. I start more chemo on nov 15th and will have one every two weeks for a total of 12 treatments. Hoping to avoid most of the side effects associated with Folfox chemotherapy. Should be able to get out on the ice in between treatments, at least that’s what I’m focusing on. Sorry again to hear about your father in law. I hate this disease.
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So sorry Pap. May he Rest In Peace and may your family find comfort in knowing he is no longer suffering or enduring any pain. I’m still battling this cancer myself and would never wish any of this on my worst enemy. CANCER SUCKS. Keep your head high and be strong for your family bud.
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Keep those pics coming guys!!! I'll be heading in for surgery about mid October so my hunting season is shot this year. I'll just have to live through the pics and stories on here and Legacy's post. It feels like it's going to be a great fall season!!!!
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Stick with it. We had a charter yesterday out of Wilson. The inside water is all messed up right now from the north and east winds. We spent the first hour or so inside before pointing north. We ended 14 for 18 on steelhead and coho and sent the clients home with their limit. But we never saw a king bite all day. Sometimes you have to take what the current conditions give you and adjust accordingly. A few days of west or south winds will stabilize the inside water and the slaughter of staging kings will resume
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Definitely ASB tackle. Greg and Jamie have a hell of a selection, and if they don't have it, can order or make anything you need.
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We tried the inside waters off Wilson for a bit this morning with only a couple coho wanting to play. Filled our box in 370-400 with steel and more coho. Never saw a king today but some nice size to the steelhead. 4 person box by noon made our clients happy though. Finished 14 for 17. Was pretty rough out deep, even in the 29' Tiara. All spoons, with the typical bright steelhead and coho colors fished top 50' on riggers, 130' braid divers (3 setting), 7 and 10 colors did the work. Nothing on meat or j plugs today.
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The only problem I have familiar bite cut bait is that the damn fish keep tearing it up!!! I'm sure they will love the dreamweaver just as much, it works for Yablonsky.
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He's a shooter for sure Jakey. 3.5 is my minimum as well. My son was out last night trying to fill a nuisance tag for one of the fruit farmers. He had a couple nice bucks, including a dandy 10 pt come through at 10 yds. He hung that stand yesterday afternoon, I hope they stick around for him
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Go to the bar. Olcott has been good out deep (400-500' plus). Some matures caught in 60-100' last few days. But the bar is where the majority of the west end fish stage. I live in olcott and trailer to the bar, or launch at Wilson and make the run this time of year.
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Martini and bad road have been good in early mornings
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That's a good buck for sure. Sucks when you know the whole town sees him too. I checked my camera after about a week and was surprised to see these guys.
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12 for 13 so far this morning. 500' or deeper, 40-80' down. Mostly a spoon bite. Big steelie and small King on meat. Only one mature today, caught on moonshine ice shadow mag.
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60" from flasher to meat head
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I have the Muskie/ salmon net with coated netting
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Best 6-8 rod spread for starters.
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rigger leads is experimental. Typically I vary lead length to find a pattern. Some days as short as 5’ is killer. Always have some meat down deep when the kings are around