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I hope this comes to a conclusion soon so this thread can get back to celebrating my favorite past time.

I don't personally know anyone involved so it is easy for me to say.  My apologies if I offended anyone.

47 minutes ago, whaler1 said:

What trespassers look like. North Hamlin.


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He's looking for the invasive snakehead.  IDK - they always have a reason.

5 hours ago, whaler1 said:

something sketchy about this............…

Things that make you go hmmmmm……...

I would have hired the guy that did my wedding photos and do a total spread.  At the very least my smile would be attached to that deer.

BTW the number one target for me is a 6pt that looks like and oil drum with stilts. 

I was just explaining the problems with deer management with my wife yesterday.

Traditional  = Harvest buck regardless of age or rack size and don't shoot doe.

QDM = Pick and choose which deer gets harvested

Trophy = Shoot every doe possible and only bucks over 4.5 and sometimes 5.5 years.

These are the ones that are explained in detail but they always leave out the obvious one and that is the Opportunity management style which a hunter has tags and fills them as they can and not as they see fit.

I have all 4 of these scenarios as neighbors.  Deer can move miles so if everyone of the small parcels is doing something different there is a good chance it all evens out.  I am not going to harvest a 2.5 10pt because I am worried the neighbor is going to shoot it.  If I harvest it, it is because I wanted to and not because I want to get it because I am worried one of my neighbors will not let it pass. 

4 hours ago, Guppy35 said:

Sean, this one looks interesting.  You might need some help dragging it.

I hate it when the poles snap.  I have one that is FUBAR and the other is limping along.  If you take the time to cut a blind in properly, you don't want to have to remove it before every winter storm.  Might as well not even use one.

I think the rut is the same as last year but year to year conditions make it the perceived rut look different.  I am southern tier so I think my timeline is a little different.  I do not expect to see a lot of deer on the move until the second rut which should happen halfway thru the second week of regular.  I was unable to bow hunt this year but I have learned to get it done on the front end of the rut because the tail end is terrible for me and I think that might be what you are experiencing.  But with that said, They always come back.

18 hours ago, fbg14619 said:

 

I think you should frame this.  That smile says it all.

2 hours ago, ladyblugill said:

hey gator.. I know what you mean....I burned my buck tag on oct. 4 on one of our local lake Ontario lunkers.  haven't been on here in awhile but remember meeting you a few times when fishing with my friend jim (pequad)  its been not quite as much fun sitting around as much with the just the doe but I have anyways because I just enjoy being out so much anyways. but definitely haven't been out nearly as much if I still had my tag.thought I would check out the site and read all 37 pages of the thread.lol..felt like a lurker lol. I don't know how to post pics but a friend on said he would do it for me. good luck. 

Really Nice Buck.  I wouldn't hesitate October 1st 6.30am.  Then go perchn....  Congratulations.

34 minutes ago, HOLY DIVER said:

 

 

 

 

Congrats on the buck , but im even more impressed that you got a four wheeler and a buck in a minivan now that's skill ! 

I was thinking the same thing.  Mind telling us how you get the 4 wheeler loaded?

Bell curve model seems appropriate.  You would have a hard time convincing me otherwise without showing me the design of experiment and the data.  People always seem to nowadays skip that and go directly to the abstract.  PS. State agencies have in the past disenfranchised me because they went with a conclusion and then cherry picked data to support that conclusion.  When challenge they immediately retreat to their ivory tower.  I don't believe the world is going away in 10 years either.

Sorry about your misting experience.  I hope you don't find my opinion offensive.  It is how I feel.  It is Monday.  I am at work.  Even if I wasn't I can't hunt because I tore my calf muscles 3 weeks before the rut and I still can't walk.  I am living vicariously thru this thread and every day I check to see Dan stick that stud buck. 

I have confidence in you.  That's a nice deer - well worth the challenge.

Nice deer.  Money aside, I wouldn't know where I would put a full body mount.  There are marriage considerations for both decisions.

check flash sales for field and stream and bass pro.  I got a primos a few years ago that was like $50 or 60 off.  The (lower end) wild life innovation cameras are good for day but pretty bad for night.  That is all I have.  I buy the cheaper cameras because I want to know what predators are after my chickens and I do not need to see how many points the fox has.  But I get a lot of deer on them and night time quality is pretty bad.  There seems to be a sweet spot in distance.  Too far and only eyes and too close is a wash out.

12 hours ago, Smat64 said:

Anybody loosing a favorite hunting tree from the ash bore?

How long can you still climb one (from when it doesn’t have leaves) if at all


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YUP...  I had a double ash on what use to be a corner and a traditional travel path.  I shot my first and biggest bow buck there.  I checked this year and one of the 2 very large trees broke off down low and crashed.  That is the thing about ash trees.  They can be very solid at the top but start rotting from the inside out near the bottom all hidden by the bark.  Or the opposite - those tops can come down and whack you on the head.  I know a several people who have had close calls cutting dead ash for firewood.  Just keep that in mind.   My stand was against the other one and I am not sure how it survived, however, the neighbor put a stand down lower last year than he had before and wrecked my good thing.  I noticed last year the travel movements changed and then I noticed the new ladder stand in the wide open.  Oh well.  I will be moving it somewhere else.

its looking for the meat pile...

On ‎9‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 8:30 PM, BigDipper83 said:

 

Anyone having good luck with the perch yet? Taking a couple ladies for their first time out tomorrow and itd be nice to find some action. Thanks

 

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How did you make out?  (With the perch and with the ladies)

This time of year I would drop shot trout worms or half crawlers and keep looking.  They are probably still scattered.  When they are biting in the bay there are usually an armada of boats near the bridge.  I have noticed nobody wants to discuss perch'n anymore.  I hope you had a good time.

I use to get it really bad between my fingers because that was the part of my hand that I didn't clean well after field dressing a rabbit.  The general rule is that if you came into contact you need to wash sooner than later and very well - more than the 15 second bathroom rule.  Its a transfer problem too.  Get it on your hands everything your hands touch will get it.  I don't normally preach abstinence for anything but in this case no contact is my rule.

I don't know about building up a tolerance to it.  I am 49 and I can't tolerate it.  I been getting into that since I was little.

Not worth it to me.  I am very allergic to that stuff.  I know where all of the patches are growing.  BTW, that resin is going to be there next time as well - there is no season for it.  I would leave the stand and burn the clothes I wore.

5 hours ago, Guppy35 said:

Does anybody use scent drippers over scrapes?  Just curious if they are worth trying out...What time of year is best to start them, and what is your go-to scent when using them? 

Sean, I have used them and I would say knowing your situation that you would be risking more than gaining.

I have tried them over existing scrapes and also over mock scrapes and neither produced any activity.  I started out buying into all of these miracle scents and it only interests the dumbest deer in the woods - button bucks and 1.5yr old bucks.  All the other deer evacuated after smelling it - I saw some run.  I try to eliminate all foreign scents now and I do much better.  With that said I am thinking about trying a mock scrape (pre rut) with some buck urine to see if I can get some territorial thing to happen.  I haven't been bow hunting as long as a lot of folks on here so I defer.  Just my opinion that it hurts more than it helps.  Like when you put your tree stand in an excellent spot where you can see for 500 yds in every direction and you still see no deer.  It never occurs to you that they see you first.

This was sent to me today and I think it really outlines where we are in society.  This is about deer hunting but it is not a big leap to move to something else.  I almost named this thread "When opinions become facts"

Does are forgotten, almost an afterthought in the popular press. Does are shot for meat and nowadays considered management animals ... that is, if considered at all.

Not much is written about harvesting does during deer season.

Does are forgotten, almost an afterthought in the popular press. Does are shot for meat and nowadays considered management animals ... that is, if considered at all.

Deer hunting is virtually all about bucks.

But consider this: Maybe that old long-nosed doe is the most valuable critter you have on your hunting property if you’re after big bucks.

What?

What about the smaller bucks? Don’t they grow into bigger bucks?

What about antler restrictions (ARs)? Isn’t the modern whitetail management mantra a direct, opposing view?

Yes it is.

But whitetail management is a lot like fitting shoes. There are as many sizes and styles as there are different whitetail management concerns, ranges, properties and goals.

The one-size-fits-all repetitive drumbeat of passing on the little guys and a doe is a doe and just meat, falls far short of being the best management scheme in many areas.

Forty years ago the deer hunting code was generally “don’t shoot does, just shoot bucks.”

And back then, anyone who shot a doe was looked at as “just” a meat hunter.

“You shot a doe? Well, that’s stupid. If we shoot all the does, we won’t have any deer left, now would we? Where do you think bucks come from?”

Then about 20 years ago, the concept of deer management became popular.

And then, ironically, the opposite of the early ethos came into fashion.

That is, you are a Neanderthal if you don’t shoot does!

Now you also have to be a game manager, too.

And often, if you don’t shoot does, you are considered simply as not managing your properties properly!

It is common to hear a wide net being cast, “You can never shoot enough does.” Or they might add, “What you want is a 50-50 buck-to-doe ratio on every hunting property.”

So shoot the does and so it goes.

But here’s a different spin:

What if the old long-nosed matriarchs on your hunting property are the regulators of the rut?

What if that long-nosed gal who has been dodging arrows and bullets, out-running coyotes, and luckily avoiding cars and trucks, and meanwhile dropping a couple fawns on the ground each year, for years is an integral ingredient in our formula for success in finally having a crack at a trophy buck?

Once more the pendulum begins to swing and if that big doe does not get let walk during archery season, we might just destroy our best chance of seeing a peak rut on our hunting grounds.

The old does are as important to the intensity of the rut as their male counterparts.

I know it may sound heretical in the face of all the antler harvest restriction advocates, but it just may be better to shoot a small buck for meat than that old doe on your property. Shoot that four-point, shoot that spike or yearling doe.

That way you won’t affect the rut one bit because yearlings are inconsequential to the formation of the whitetail breeding nucleus (WBN) in any given hunting area.

Sure, yearling bucks “get lucky,” and even in some areas do a significant amount of breeding, but their main use during the rut in a decent age-structured whitetail population is to drive and push the does into the protection of the dominant breeder buck’s domain.

During the late summer and early fall, trail cameras show us that old mature does begin hitting scrapes ... that means the overhanging branch with amazing regularity. Call it the prelude to the rut.

Bucks come in, too, but scrapes are not just a buck thing, any more than fun loving is.

Scrapes and their overhanging branches are points in a pattern through the woods, a mosaic-like olfactory-based moving lek of the whitetail deer.

And this scent-driven network is created and reinforced as much by the doe, synchronizing hormonally with the bucks as much as the other way around, just as we have traditionally thought, the bucks leaving their scent-based emails along the whitetail web for does.

And it goes both ways.

It is not a one-sided conversation.

Remove those long-nosed gals from your hunting area in the early season, prior to the formation of the WBN, and you risk a dead rut or what is euphemistically called “a trickle rut.”

Take it from a deer hunter who has seen a rut begin with all the fanfare and great expectations ... and corresponding WBN dissipate into the deer woods on a property, once the two old matriarchs were both arrowed.

As in many areas of the country, we have a dense population of whitetail deer. Small bucks are a dime a dozen now and old does are at a premium due to today’s modern and fashionable deer manager rule of deer harvesting, shoot the does and big bucks, but for heaven’s sake, save all the scrubs!

If you want a good, action-packed rut, shoot a yearling for meat and let the old doe walk ... at least until after the rut.

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In the heat of the summer I like Texas rigs right in the weeds.  Guys are punching docks with 1/4 ounce jigs cruising up and down the lake and I am 10 feet deeper with 1/16 ounce Texas rigged worms (fish slower instead of covering more territory).  It is all about the right color and the right tail.  Once you find the right worm, it is hard not to catch fish.  I bring a duffle bag full of soft plastics with me.  It flips on me in the end of summer and crankbaits/spinner  baits are hot.  I don't like using cranks early because I catch too many smaller fish and the extra hook points are harder to deal with.  It can be hard enough to get a single gamakatsu offset hook point out of a LM bass's cartilidge.  But that is just what I do.  Guys on here live for it.  I am only a part time bass fisherman.