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What is your go to Lake Trout set up, spoons, cowbells ect. My uncle wants to catch a wall hanger to go with his 13.75# walleye and his 50 inch pike and now he wants a big laker to go with his collection, any input would be nice, PAP.

WOW!!!! this couldn't have been posted any better, I was about to purchase a new fish hawk, think I will sit back and see what this new unit has to offer, better price, multi probes, sounds impressive, see what happens, hope before the season starts. Thanks Matthew!! PAP

I have the Cabelas Depth master combos, I have the DM30's and 2 of the DM45's on my rigger poles, I bought the combos for about $80.00 a peice and have them going on 5 years now, but I don't use them day in and day out, there are some thing that aren't good about their reels, first the drag, every time you go out you have to set the drag, they lock up like so you have to loosen them up and reset them, then they are good for the day, the next day is the same crap, next is the button to set the reel back to (0) it should be on the other side many times setting the dipsy rods you hit that button and you look at where you are and it reads way less because you hit the counter without realizing it, so you have to reel everything back in do it over,I would not recemend these reels if you fish day in and day out, but for me who only gets out a dozen or two times a year they are good enough. My uncle called the other day and said he has a gift for me, he was doing a job (masonary) for a lady and she asked if he was interestes in fishing and he said yes, she had all kinds of poles and reels for trolling, her husband passed away and she wants to get rid of them, just take them she said, and there was diawa linecounters and poles and all kinds of lures, I didn't see them yet but he said there yours, I thought you could use them, so I don't know what kind of stuff is there, but he said half a pickup load!!

Trout Man I tried to pm you and your mail box must be full, I would like to get 2 of the 12#ers, PAP.

I don't understand, lost I guess this is inside the welm talk?????

Just a heads up, Bass Pro is putting the ELITE7 on sale next week, I don't know what or how much off the price, but keep an eye open next week, see what happens PAP.

djj717, great thred, I also have twin girls, turning 8 on the 18 of this month, I take them fishing all the time, they love the boat and catching the big ones, they also are getting itchy to hit the lake.

Well a little story goes with how I got the name for my boat. We fished Canada alot when I was a kid, and my dad and I always fished together, we always caught alot of walleye up there, one day there was a little boy sitting on the dock when we got back in and was admiring our stringer of walleyes, and the little boy was Amish, so in Dutch he said to my dad what were you using for bait, dad said a yellow jig with a peice of walleye belly,(at that time it was leagle) . The next day we headed out early morning and there sat the little Amish boy crying, so we pulled over to the dock and dad asked him in dutch whats the matter, he said his dad has no money for more worms, so dad gave him half of ours and the little boy was so happy he couldn't thank dad enough, off we went, came back in with anouther stringer of walleye and we cleaned them and fillet them and dad kept some of the belly meat for the little Amish boy. Next day there he sat crying again, so dad told the little boy to ask his dad if he could go along with us, and his dad talked to my dad in dutch and he agreed to let him go with us, those to guys had a blast talking in dutch, don't ask me what they were saying I understand some but not much, dad gave him a jig and a little piece of worm and he casted out and soon had a walleye, I thought the little boy was going to squeze dad to death, he was so happy, then dad got out his pocket knife and cut a piece of walleye belly off for him and put on his jig and the little boy cought his own stringher full of walleye with one piece of walleye belly. Dad told him see you only need one worm. I never will forget that day,since then dad passed away from cancer and I inherited his boat which never had a name, so I named the boat  1WORM in his memory. THANKS DAD I WILL NEVER FORGET YOU. RIP. PAP

Fish on, I fish mostly for walleye, and was fishing for them early AM. in the fall we had caught a few on the back side of Gallo ISL. and then we came around to the trench to try for salmon, so we switched over our gear for salmon and started to troll towards Associated ILS. and started at about 1.8mph and was along side of a charter, and thought well I'll just stay out of his way, move up towards Stoney ILS. and he started pulling away from us, meaning going faster so I started to speed up to stay along side buy plenty far away and soon we were at 2.5mph and thats where he stayed with his speed, and he was catching fish like mad!,but he circled around and headed back down and we kept going towards Lime stone shoals, once we were all alone thats when it seemed like we were flying, soon one rigger went off then the other we had 2 fish hooked up with 4 polls out and 2 guys it was great, we landed the 2 kings my uncles was huge as I only had a walleye net along she busted the handle right off but I grabbed the ring of the net and got her in she weighed in just under 37# first king ever and mine weighed in the 20's so we reset everything and kept going towards the Black River and soon a dipsy fired and a rigger fired off, we lost the dipsy fish but landed the rigger fish, the screen was loaded with fish, we think a school of kings left the trench and was headed for the Black River, we stayed on fish all day untill we had enough, word on the radio was things slowed down in the trench but we were on them all day and had the whole lake to ourselves best day ever on the bigO.

Thanks guys for the info, that will give me an idea of where to start and then the fish should fill in the blank as far as where to end up at with the speed, I think I'm getting the hang of this, THANKS to everyone for their input, with that being said I want to apolgize to Captian Carl for redirecting this thead as he was looking for what lures where hot for other folks on here, and with some dispute about what works where the thread got out of hand, so please answer the original title (what lures were hot for brown trout last year) thanks PAP

THANKS Gill-T, I think I have everything figured out. This is a big step for me and I want all my ducks in a row, I made other posts that never get answered, and there were about 200 views before someone chimed in, meanwhile I found out what I needed to know,but the others that posted removed all of the grey areas I had. THANKS to everyone that replied! PAP.

Well, I see we have a different view on lures and colors, with that being said what is tha general rule for speed, like the new fishfinders all have gps's no more speed wheels, so all speeds will be gps speeds,where do you guys start at and then generally end up, being a walleye guy slow-slow=slow, I read on here somone says they were up to 3mph with the kings hitting at that speed and caught his biggest coho,to me thats flying

Thanks Yankee Troller, I've been successfull with the riggers, set a 5ft&8ft with 50 to 75 feet of line back,I used alewive, soduspoint orange chickenwing in the michigan stinger spoon with success, this year I added planer board setup for the big boards which I have but never used, this year we will, see what kind of knots I can get myself into, give it a wirrel see what happens, will try the stick bait methood also. One other thing!! where did Fat Nancy move to? They seem to have the scoop on everything!

I really want to do some browns this spring,also doing some research on this blood run copper,seems that is the way to go,I personally never used it and that might be some of my problems, NEW to this type fishing, anyway, can you run short leads of copper in the spring? seems to me that it doesn't take much to get down 5-8ft with no other weights, for the walleyes I ran OFF SHORE snap weights and that worked good. I have all of the Precision Trolling books and the big water edition has alot about wire and lead core and all the different dipsy with the dive curve and it's a no wonder why you guys run the copper line.One other question does the blood run copper run deeper than the (just reads #30 wire) in the Precision Trolling book. It's nice that you guys say what works best for you, I fish the Henderson Harbor area, Black River basin, Chaumont bay area, are those lures a general rule of thumb or do certain baits work for say your area, Yankee Troller is out west if I'm correct and says (this) lure works for him, would that same lure,spoon,ect. work per say Oswago or Henderson area, I know that what works one don't the next, that being said (is it a, your area lure works here and not there situation) THANKS for any input, as maybe these questions are rediculous PAP

Thanks to everyone that replied back, threw all this mayham about (WHAT) transducer to get, I met anouther person on anouther board who's father is a field test person for Lowrance, and he went over all the possibilitys and was the one that told me about what ducer does what, but I still wanted to hear your opinions because they are (FACT PRUEVEN) statements, HIS explanations were incredable on what does what but there were some gray areas, that you folks, with your input removed from some of those gray areas. I thought with no replys that maybe I was one of those outcast people, as it does seems that this site is a tight nit site, maybe I was one of those on the outside?   Anyway I THANK those that put their input forward. PAP

I thought that the 83/200 would do better than 60ft, on my old Humming Bird 727 that I had a 83/200 ducer on that and I would be able to split the screen and have the ability to see fish and the bottom at 150ft, that unit has 4000 watts peak to peak this unit has 31,000 watts peak to peak so I was thinking 83/200 would be fine and the 433 would be for the down scan, maybe for now I'll get those two for now,and later get the 50/200 but I'm not shure I'll be needing the 50/200

I found the info I needed to know, I'm going to get both the 83 and the 50 they also sell a selector switch so you can choose what ducer  you want at that given time, so basically you can go from the 83/ in shallow water to the 50/ in deeper water, the 50/200 will show therocline better the 83/ up to 120ft will show more fish cover more area because of the wider angle of the cone.

I need some HELP please, I made my mind up, and I'm going to purchase the ELITE7 unit it comes with 3 different transducers to choose from 83/433 or 83/200 which they say is good up to 900ft,or 50/200 which is already on back order, so that must mean that the 50/200 is very popular, but which ducer should I get? I talked to a guy that said he can see his down rigger ball and can see fish come to the lure and back out if it doesn't take the lure, what transducer is that? I mainly fish for walleye but am very interested in salmon fishing also, I mainly fish around the back side of Galloo and the shipping lane towards Main Duck Island, and the Hidden Island between Galloo and the shipping lanes, I have decent luck with the walleyes there, with that being said which ducer would suit my purpose best, I want to see my rigger balls and maybe the flasher/fly if not to far back, what ducers do you guys use,maybe when the factory ducer fails I will invest in a Airmar. THANKS PAP ps. I know this question was in another thred but I can't find it and maybe things have changed with the more powerfull units.

Ok, my minds made up, I'm going to buy the ELITE7 it's everything I need, and as far as not being able to up date over the internet a tech savy person told me you can update this unit, but you need a card reader and the right card and download the info to the card reader then remove the old card in the unit, install the updated card then reboot the unit and then you have Lowrances up date, a little bit more involved than the new HDS units, but for $750.00 I will put up with that inconvience, now I have a question,I need some help here, which transducer should I get they have 3 choices, 83/200,83/200-433? 0r 50/200 which ducer can you see your rigger ball, I talked to a guy that says he can see the fish come into the lure,and then back out if the fish isn't interested, which ducer is that, I mainly fish for walleye but, also for salmon and lakers in the deeper waters also. Any input would be great, kind of confused? THANKS PAP.

I'm really leaning towards the ELITE 7 I've been doing alot of research on this unit and can only find 2 faults 1 is it's only got a 1 year warrenty, 2 there is no up dates avalilable, but power wise it's right up there with the top notch units, go to www.lowrance.comusa. it's the first thing that comes up, see what you guys think, and report back on what you guys with the hds8&10s think. thanks PAP.

Alright, I had that **** on my line, where you couldn't even reel the line in I didn't know what it was I thought it was algea, so I get why you guys go to wire, now what is the best bang for your buck set up for wire, how do you know how much wire you have out? a line counter or what kind of a set up do you guys run? any help would be great

I'm just curious, why do you guys use wire line instead of 30# power pro, can you tie the usuall knots or do you use the crimp type, how do you attach fluorocarbon line to wire? Maybe this is a dumb guestion, never played around with wire, but it shure is popular way amongst the salmon guys any help would be appreciated

WOW what a great picture display, I hope this year I also can get out!! missed all last year to engine dilemmas, what started out as a slight over heating problem turned out to be a disaster till all was said and done, that's enough of me crying!! Will be out there with the best of you guys. I wont have as many hours on the water as you (raising twin girls=work) I'm a rookie to the salmon fishing, I did manage to catch a few in the trench outside of Henderson Harbor which is where I do most of my fishing, really looking forward to the spring Brown Trout, I think with all the great guys on here I might be able to land a few. I hope you do as well if not better this year!! It's nice to see those big fish this time of the year makes you want to order more lures LOL. Till next time, tight lines to you, may spring come as early as last year!!

Being in the starter and alt. business, all batteries are made overseas except Decka batteries, made in Reading,PA. I would replace batteries every 3 years just to be safe, most marine batteries are group 31 batteries, some with top posts being large lead terminals/some with screw posts that can be used around home till they puke,we sell them at the price of $90.00 a lot cheaper than a sea tow!! Just my opinion.

If you have a power steering pump assy. with a belt running from the pump assy. down to the crank pully then you have power steering , or a snow plow on the front of your boat, because that is the only other thing I ever saw run off of the power steering pump, the Dodge snow comanders in the early 80's used this type of set up, they used this setup instead of a electric moter to run the plow pump