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I have always used 87 octane in my 1990 Grumman with a 1990 75hp Mercury and 1995 15hp 4stroke Evenrude. I bought the boat used in 1996. I trailer the boat and have mostly been in the habit of keeping the tank full when not in use. In winter I add marine stabilizer. I have recently replaced all the small plastic fuel and oil lines inside the 90hp motor. I rebuilt the carbs many years ago but it didn't solve the problem at the time which turned out to be a weak spark issue. I also recently replaced the fuel line between the fuel tank in the bow and the motors BC it was leaking fumes.

Since I trailer the boat, every time I use it the fuel in the tank gets mixed up on the way to the launch. So any stratification that may have existed is eliminated before I run the engines. Also, since I don't keep it on the water, there is less opportunity for water to be absorbed from the air since the boat is mostly kept away from the water where there is more humidity during changes in temperature. If the boat is kept on the water with a partially full tank that has vents to avoid pressure changes, every time there is a change in temperature the tank breathes in humid air, the ethanol will absorb it and sink to the bottom. Over time it will build up. Especially over a season with multiple fuel-ups. That is when you really run into trouble. So docking all the time with low fuel level increases the amount of air in the tank and therefore with a large amount of air in the tank each expansion and contraction cycle will draw in a larger amount of moisture into the system. So IMO it is more of a problem for boats that are on the water all season and when the tanks are not kept topped off.

All it takes is less than a handful of people harvesting more than they eat for profit, including taking multiple bag limits in a day. Maybe less people should turn a blind eye but without stiff penalties and strong enforcement, perps will see no reason not to do it.

Thanks Chad.  Your post has had a nice warming effect on a cold grey wintery day.

The DEC would have to do a lot more than one seining survey. But that will not happen unless the issue gets raised higher in their list of priorities. So if it can be proven to be happening in other tributaries and/or if there is a growing public group voicing concern, maybe they would look more closely at the situation.

I wonder if the DEC just doesn't have the resources and funding to address the situation or if there is something else going on, possibly environmentally that is affecting them. The questions to ask might be things like what environmental changes have occurred over that period of time? And, are walleye more sensitive to any of them that other species. Questions about spills from various activities such as drilling, fracking and release of methane bubbling up in tributaries which could all be contributing factors.

Another thought is to try and create an AI modelling program that can be used to input all the history of weather, environmental and other conditions as well as all applicable fishery data from all pertinent sources. I think this is one area where AI can be effectively applied. So a question to ask the DEC is ... Are there any plans for them to put AI in their toolbox. I am not a huge fan of AI for everything but I think it would be a very effective tool for fisheries and other environmental management areas.

Some input from the various watershed environmental groups and other environmental groups might shed some light.

I think that since more and more of the fishing community has been leaning more toward conservation and safely releasing all fish that are not kept, those measurements are becoming less and less important. Once you are set up, length and girth are fairly easy to measure accurately. Bump board for length and soft measuring tape in the net while in the water is easy on the fish and easy to do. Getting an accurate weight is another story. There are just too many things that can cause inaccuracy. The scale must be periodically certified and protected from anything that can affect it's accuracy. And on a boat, the boat is moving, you are moving and the fish may not be still enough to get a steady reading. That is why any official record fish have to be weighed on a certified scale on land.

And also, I think that as you get older it also becomes less important.

Best to weigh the net after releasing the fish while the net still has the weight of the water on it. You won't have time to do it just before netting it. Or just know what the net weighs when dripping wet and do the math.

I have heard it said that squeezing the gill plate (cheek) tight between your thumb and fingers (in front area of gill plate) is like a pressure point that will calm the fish down.

Another thing that helps the survival rate it to take measures to avoid rubbing the protective slime off of the fish. The slime protects it from infection. If you lay it down for measuring or a picture it is best to be on a smooth surface that has been whetted down to minimize any removal of slime. One of the reasons for using a bump board to measure unless you make a quick measure in the water. The carpet on the floor of the boat is very bad at removing slime, especially when it is dry. If too much slime is lost, the fish could die several days later from infection.

In a properly managed weed cutting program, the weeds that are cut must be removed to a landfill. Otherwise, they just go back into the system as nutrients. Those nutrients will feed more weeds and algae blooms. That is also a problem when using herbicides because the weeds die, decay and fall to the bottom which become nutrients for more weeds and algae to grow. The nutrients keep loading into the lake from farm and fertilizer runoff and possibly from poor septic and wastewater systems which are the root causes of the problem. Just cutting weeds without removing them just doesn't make sense. It is a complicated problem that will take a whole system approach to solve.

10 lots and 11 pictures. No #s directly associated with pictures. Hard to connect price to picture.

Here is a link to the segment.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/rochester/news/2023/08/24/fish-habitat-project-underway-in-chautauqua-lake

Spectrum News is airing a great news segment today about the crib project, and the involvement of MI Chapter 69 members, Chautauqua Lake Outdoors and Chautauqua Lake Association. Great segment wit interview of key people wit a focus on our conservation efforts in NYS. I couldn't find it on the web. There may be a way with a sign up and log in or a mobile app. Otherwise you will have to watch spectrum News on cable today. I think it may be on just after the top of every hour.

Enjoy the fight and release them. And then go get some walleye or perch for dinner. Some fish are good for fighting, some for eating. But of course, taking all the other measures to maximize quality makes a difference no matter what species.

1 hour ago, BP Swing said:

Yes this is a FN joke. Bass are still on the beds and the DEC is basically sanctioning this. Its ridiculous. Whats even more sucky is guys are using the viewing things that look like a megaphone shape (I dont know what you call them) to view under water to target them on the beds! Real sporting. ...Those guys cant catch em any other way. They may as well bow fish. Its so un sportsman like in my opinion to be targeting them off the beds. I mean if you get one accidentally then so be it but to drop right on the bed to disrupt the spawning is sinful in my opinion. Whats even worse is the DEC allowing tournaments while the spawn is still on (see Cayuga L.). Whats even worse is shortening the season to June 15th instead of the 3rd Sat in June. It should be later not shorter like the Cannadians are doing on the St Lawrence. The season for Smallmouth doesnt open till July 1st this year to protect the spawn and no targeting them for catch and release either. I mean the water is 56 there so this is not good. Hopefully these guys fishing the beds dont keep any cause that is the future of the fishery providing the gobies dont get em first. Wake up NY!!

We need an internet app where responsible sportsman can post pictures and video of the scumbags that break the fishing and hunting regulations Where the app finds them wherever they post on the net, to shame and heckle them wherever they go on the net.

This guy was lucky to be able to land this beautiful fish on walleye trolling gear. Maybe that fish (and his friends) is the reason why he didn't catch any walleye.

https://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/topic/100512-jefferson-county-suprise/

Do you know about what kind of contaminant levels Onondaga Lake fish have compared to Finger Lakes fish?

Didn't you try for tigers and pike in Onondaga Lake and the Seneca River while you were working there?

Looks like 2 different fish. But both are nice.

Very nice! It would be nice if The DEC were to manage regulations in at least some waters in the state for the purpose of producing trophy pike like that more consistently. With the current regulations and fishing pressure on them in most statewide waters, Pike just don't have a chance to become trophy size. With the right management in select lakes or rivers, Upper 30s and 40" plus fish could become relatively common.

Nice!! And nice day to be out there.

Isle View is the one I was talking about. Griffin Park Boat Ramp is another option that is free if you want to explore further up the river. It is a good launch located near the north end of Grand Island. Here is a Google Maps link. It is protected from the wind being behind Cayuga Island but strong west winds can be brutal once you get out on the river.

I have been told that after labor day it is free but I have not used it so I am not absolutely sure. I stopped there Oct 22 (before I was told about it) but was not sure so we went to the launch at Tonawanda Park (follow the river a few miles north and a bit past the South Grand Isle Bridge). That was the only time I had the boat out this year. I know it used to be free after Labor Day and  before Memorial Day before they instituted the yearly fee.

Anyone have a report of the results. Number of participants? Number, species and size of fish? Fishing conditions and what it took to be successful?

There's a serious ole lady for you, Old Man!!

I wonder if Dr. Farrell's team does any spawning habitat surveys in that area. It would be nice if the DEC would consider the possibility of stocking SLR strain of muskies in the eastern basin bays and few bays and rivers along the south shore. With the gobies compromising successful musky spawns on the SLR, I wonder if creating a few successful spawning areas outside the SLR system where there are less gobies might help to insure the survival of the strain. And maybe there would be a bonus of eventually creating musky fishing opportunities closer to home for many musky enthusiasts. It may also help reduce the amount of gas we burn traveling across the state to distant waters.