Steve.e

I run bells, lake rigs or hot spots off the ball with 4ft of leader, and set a flutter spoon or spin and glow 2ft above and 4 ft behind the attractor. This eliminates the extra drag bringing in a fish and you can run the attractors real close to bottom and not pick up junk on your bait when attached to the attractors. Also this will allow a stacker to be utilized if wanted. I like fighting just a fish as much as possible.

I.have a cottage on the east side abut 8 mi out of Penn Yan. Catch mostly lakers, how about you?

I have my rigger lines spliced  with 120ft of Fleaflicker now. A friend and I just bought 1200 yrds of blood run. I plan on spooling 2 for now for a side by side test. Fishy are you a Keuka resident or cottage owner?

Really bad this year there also. My neighbor has pretty much given up. He doesn't like using flea flicker, gets twisted up too much, which I have experienced also.  I think if you use a spro swivel between lines instead of tying together it may help. The fleaflicker has worked for me so far on lake O and probably will on Keuka. I'm going to try bees wax on the dipsey wire , maybe it'll work. I'll let you all know.

I'll be out of town for a week starting on Friday. Keuka bound. Do you use a marine radio and what channel are you on usually? I'll be back next Friday and will be on the O that day and or Sat. I'll try to contact you.

Guarantee it works. Where do you want to meet for that beer? !!!!!!

To estimate your true depth (length of cable out) x( the cosign of the estimated angle of the cable) relative to 90 deg  (straight up and down). I found a chart on line for the cosigns of angles up to ~60 deg. Just google images- angle cosigns, and make a chart .

Cadarawamp, I use stainless so it doesn't rust, and stays smooth so it won't damage wire and seems to be Ok with mono. . Putting the pressure on the line with the rod cuts through enough of the fleas and they drop off. The rod is ~  1/8 - 1/4 in diam. Not sure, haven't measured and probably doesn't matter. Can use any length I imagine, longer would be good to reach out or up if a fish is on. I cleared 2 ft of fleas off a wire in about 8 sec. 

I use a 2.5ft stainless steel rod to clear them off. Keep good tension on the line and slide the rod up and down the line on top side. they pretty much fall right off. can be done with a fish on . As the line comes in with the fleas, another person works the steel rod , it works pretty good.

What was the temp down at 70-115? 45 -50 deg Friday off sandy 35-45 feet down

You can just set to auto if it has that feature. Should be good .

Went out solo, neighbor kid's parents forgot to remind him we were on for 5:15 departure, threw stuff at his window to no avail. Started at about 130 worked out to 275. Small bait pods inside 200, much larger ones out at 250. Lost 2 skippys behind boat, ok with me. Dipsey takes off for a short run after a decent fight, landed a 10 -12lb beautiful rainbow on black and green SD with green atomic fly-released . Little while later went over a huge pod and 10 sec's later 41ft rigger fires and screams bloody murder. After 25 mins and a heck of a time netting , not to mention bouncing him off the cable a couple times landed a nice 19.5 lb king according to old spring hand scale. Green rotating triangle  flasher with old faithful, green, beat up spoon of some type with a big eye at the back end. This spoon always seems to produce something. Beautiful thicksteaks!! All fish in the 250 area. All on green stuff 

remove switch assy and check for loose , broken or bad crimped wires if they have a crimped terminal. up down and stop are separate functions I believe. 

they are getting worse, especially after this week. Use 30# big game mainline with lighter leader, or flea flicker mainline. It works for me.

Call me this evening at 585-392-7896 around 8:00. I have a place on keuka Lake, and the last week of Aug is available, I will do 2-3 nights.  4 bed rooms, 2 car parking, 60 ft of flat gravel beach and front yard. Steve.

Hey guys,

      Last late Aug I lost my probe and a troutman 12lb torpedo of the Genny in about 80-100 fow. If anyone happens to snag it bottom bouncing for lakers this year, I'd appreciate it if it was returned. I think the probe may float off bottom, never tested , but it is hollow. Good luck this year, can't wait to get out. Thanks Steve.e. ([email protected])

They are in NY. I saw one last year in spencerport ny near ridge road and union st(2590 . pULLED OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND WATCHED IT WALK INTO THE WOODS FOR ABOUT 30 YRDS. pLAIN AS DAY. 2 WEEKS LATER A FRIEND'S FRIEND SAW 2 TOGETHER NEAR BUFFALO RD AND MANITOU. My father in law's friend in prattsburg came over a hill on a dirt road and one was walking  down the side of the road., broad daylight. I also heard the one shot was tagged in the ear and was from Montana and he called the number on the tag and the game cop there said that  he couldn't have shot it here it was shipped to New york . The guy didn't say where he was from at the time.  Also black jaguars were released years ago, they are smaller than African jags about the same size as a mature coyote. saw on in Steuben county and read articles down there concerning them. My cousin saw one ,or more, 3 times in fairport around marsh rd. One time turkey calling and it walked in and sat 30yrd from him. He researched it after a "tip" from a NYS official and found that 10 mating pairs were released across NYS. DEC knows both are here.

yes sweet deal but new price is ridiculous

Had a searay that did the same when trolling for too long and then gunning it. Carbon build up most likely. I would rebuild carb and have it adj by a reliable mechanic.

I had same issue in early Aug. Ran spoons on riggers 35-70ft back and started getting more action, not as much as dipsies though.

Lively, I was there the first week of August and hammered LT, mostly on dipsies. I use the regular size which is I believe is a #1, ~4" with ring. I used a e-troll rotating flasher or a spin doktor with a spin n glow. 4 feet between dip and flash and spin n glow about 3-4ft back.I usually set mine on 3 setting( weight underside)- furthest from boat.Clearer the water, more stealth normally. Early in the week 150ft of line worked( I'm using 30lb wire) which runs about 50-60 ft. My speed was 1.25-1.5 at the ball. The rod will bounce when one is on. Later in the week I ran about 175-200. There are charts on line that give the "ballistics" when running dipsies. Most are based on #1 or Mags. As far as releasing, I usually have to pop the release when one is on . I tried setting the release lighter but it would pop sometimes on its own from the heavy drag. Most lakers dont hit real hard as you know. Most of the ones I caught were 17-21in, with a few up to ~24in. By the way on my last trip out on Sat, I got skunked using the same tactics that worked all week. I think the full moon changed everything. My neighbor got a few on riggers but had to go down to 105 over 120-130. 300 ft of wire on dipsies to get that deep.

Dipsies with FF have been slow this year for most. try running spoons behind the dipsies might have better luck. Spoons are the tool this year.

what about it?

Spoon bite on South shore is, according to recent reports, been happening all summer.

friend out today off genesee river, getting fish in 200' down 85-100