guffins fisherman

One word will cure all your Cannon ills:  Scottie. 
 

The 1116’s are “slow” enough to where they don’t jerk the cable at all. Up or down. The 2116’s are wicked fast, but have a gentle stop at the top and can be set up to stop with the gear anywhere below the surface to make it even less abrupt. Are they expensive?  Yes. Are they bigger?  Yes. Do they just flat out work day after day, up, down all day long no questions asked?  Yes. Are they simple to operate and replace seldom needed parts?  Yes. Have I just left my ‘Hawk on all season and just run it day after day on my 2116’s?  Yes. With that said, I terminated with the Scottie Surestop Pro’s on my winger riggers to make my stopper bead permanent. Made a huge difference not using the stopper beads on the wingers. 

For safety and comfort, I would recommend mounting your riggers just forward of the vents in the gunnels. This will allow you to set them and get to a bite easily and safely.  Then I would recommend mounting your rod holders(3-4) forward of the riggers, but not so far forward that they hinder getting on/off the boat, but forward enough to not hinder rotating the riggers, etc. Track is nice, but not a necessity. Track only allows for less drilling into your boat and easy removal/modifications, etc. I included a pic of mine that works really well. I have Scottie riggers now, but you get the idea.  Dipsys go in the forward Cannon holder and occasionally a rigger rod in the aft Bert’s. The middle plastic Bert’s holders only hold planer board rods. 

18 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

Thank You!  

 

 

I own Gambler Rigs.  I do ship to Canada.  Message me if you have any questions!

In my experience, a very fast ship out too. Thank you. 

Igloo makes a huge “marine” one. People buy the big yetis and such. I just can’t see dropping the coin to fill one with fish water and slime. 

Friend of mine has a place on Can. side of Grindstone in Thurso Bay. He knows of someone that caught a king over there. One. I’ve always wondered why they don’t go further, or are more common down the river. I surmised it was due to almost all of our kings being stockers these days. With that said, they likely go back to, or near where they were released for their spawning rituals. The Salmon, the Black, Stony, Mill Creek, etc. 

If I could make a suggestion:  I know it is not what you are asking for, but I would suggest buying new.  I bought a used X4D on this forum, and have not been completely happy with it.  Every time it goes wonky, I can't help but wonder if I got sold a piece of crap, or the perceived malfunction is just how the unit works normally.  I went into the transaction knowingly taking that chance, but to do it all over again, I would just go new.  Just the wondering and having it in the back of my mind has not been worth the savings on a used one.  

Salmon strongly prefer 48-52 degree water.  The nice thing about a fish hawk is it will tell you where that is in the water column, or if it even exists at that location.  Secondly, and likely most important, a fish hawk gives you data that you can try to repeat once you find what the fish are preferring at that given moment, and then try to repeat it to increase your chances of repeating a catch.  The truth is, the actual numbers the fish hawk gives you don't actually matter.  What matters is the repeatability.  It just so happens a fish hawk tells us the relative speed at the ball and we compare it to surface speed and then try to use it to our advantage.  

I know exactly where this place is. You’d be hard pressed to find a better location to stay in the harbor for any type of fishing. Perching, bass, salmon, walleye….they’re all easily accessible from this rental. 

Tie them to each side of the boat so they lay in the water somewhere midship, but still able to easily reach them to pull them out.  Be sure to use tag lines(loose lines attached to the trailing end of the trolling bag) and attach them further back along the side.  These tag lines are used to 1). keep the bag from being sucked under the boat. 2). Retrieve the bag when done trolling.  The bags are way easier to empty of water by lifting from the trailing end of the bag. 3). If the tow line breaks, the tag line will keep it near the boat so you can retrieve it, if it hasn't found its way into your prop.

To be clear, trolling bags and drift bags are different.  The weight of your Penn Yan will shred a pair of drift bags in a day.  Trolling bags are way heavier built and cost more.  Big Papa Sportfishing and Amish Outfitters come to mind.

You would need a holder, a rod and an inline planer board for each bait you want to put in the water.  If you want to run 3 baits per side of the boat, you would need six holders(3 per side), six rods and six planer boards and six baits.

I use 65# braid for my divers, so I can get the larger diameter. It accumulates fleas, but not any more or less than wire on the days when fleas are bad.

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Savage .300 WSM

Remington 30-06

Toyota Camry

I think NYS DMV has a database of everything that has been reg'd in your name, to a certain extent of time. I think you can request a copy of it. I thought it could be done online, but not positive. The reg numbers you need for your captains license might be listed.

I ran into this same sort of problem. I went back and found pictures over the years and was able to find the reg numbers I needed.

Good luck.

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Saw this on CL a week ago too.
https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/boa/d/canandaigua-ft-sportscraft-inboard/7363431872.html

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I honestly think disconnecting the head unit from the power and removing the batteries from the probe resets the codes or something, and they begin talking better. Essentially mine did the same thing. Only thing I did differently was to reset the head unit to factory settings. Good chance FH did that when they had it too.

Good to hear it works. Now go fishing.

Matt

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With some perseverance, renewed patience and some tinkering, I was able to fish my x4D all day today with almost no glitches.

Matt

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Update: brought my boat to a sand beach where I could get in and look at the 'ducer angle. I had it tilted up ~15 degrees. Add that to the already 10 degrees built into the 'ducer element, and I was likely not receiving signal well from the probe. I adjusted it to parallel with the surface of the water, and it seemed to work well all the way up to 4 MPH.  Couple that with the reset to factory default of the head unit, and I think/hope they are talking better now. 

 

As far as the OP putting the probe into a bucket, that may not be deep enough to receive well considering the 10 degrees built into the 'ducer.  I hope my trials and tribulations and possible success give you some insight into solving your problems. 

 

Matt

They make different models that vary the complexity. I know a lot of people that live and die by these things on the water, and have zero issues with them. Whether they are justifying the expense, or truly catch more fish is not my call.  I want to be on the cutting edge, and want the FH to work and will keep trudging ahead to get it working. 

I did the switcheroo last night with my head unit and probe. Family member has the same unit as mine(X4D). At first, the probe would not work correctly with his 'ducer and head unit. We thought the probe was bad, so we pulled it out of the water and took the batteries out of it and let it sit while we put down his probe and tried my head unit to test it. It worked, but the numbers were way off, so we did a factory default reset on the head unit. All was good after that, so we assumed the head unit was good. We decided to try my probe again with my head unit. IT WORKED! We all were totally blown away. My probe, his 'ducer and my head unit worked. We put his head unit back on just to test my probe to make sure it wasn't a fluke. That combo worked too. So, at this point I am looking hard at the 'ducer. Today, I am going to try and adjust the angle of my 'ducer back to parallel with the water surface. I tipped it up thinking the blowback was making the transmission spotty. FH told me the element in the 'ducer is built with 10 degrees into it to allow for blowback and to mount it flat. Why the probe would not work correctly(numbers were way off and some missing) at first is totally confusing, but we had it working after I pulled all the batteries and let it set for a while. IDK.

Not sure if any of this helps you(OP), but we are looking at the same problem it seems.

Matt

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I bought a used X4D on here and have had the exact same problems with it. I finally took the display off and quit thinking about it until I can pull the boat in the fall and get the transducer checked out somehow. Too busy running trips right now.

Good luck. Hope you find the problem. I am following along.

Matt

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Mine was 21'er. It had a 125 Merc 2 stroke. It was rated for 175, but the PO opted for the 125.

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I have a 24 foot version of this boat with an outboard and love it. I have one complaint and was wondering if you have the same trouble. The fish boxes in the floor have pumps in them but when it rains they fill up. Do you have this problem and if so how did you solve it?

I had a 2001 Trophy with an outboard on it. It had the fishboxes in the floor that also filled up with rain. Hated it. Gets real nasty, fast. I found a couple things you can do to remedy the problem: 1. Disconnect the pumps so the rain water drains to the bilge and rely on your bilge pump to do the work on a regular basis. I didn't like that idea at all, and didn't do it. 2. Buy some really good rubber weather stripping and stick it to the top of the rim around the top of the fishboxes. It seals against the lid when it is closed, and keeps the rainwater out.

I sold the boat due to wanting to go bigger, and it was underpowered, before I applied the weather stripping.

Hope this helps.

Matt

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FWIW, Bert's makes a lexan version of their rod holder. They are better than the Scotty's, but def not Cannon,etc. They work really well for planer board rods. They go into position with two hands, but come up with only a one handed pull upward. They fit in all tracks. I use them for planer board rods and holding rods while underway only. I also use the Cannons for my dipsy rods. I thought heavy duty holders for planer rods was a waste of money, so I max and matched my set up and really like it. I included a not so great pic to kinda show what I am talking about.

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Lakers and salmon are not in the bays right now. They are out in the lake proper. Past the big islands. Pike,pickerel and bass can be found in the bays right now just about everywhere. The walleyes?  Good luck. They are here, but very scattered and tough to target unless you put one helluva lotta time in.