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Hi Guys I am looking for some direction on the depth my divers are reaching. I run a four diver spread all on wire and all 4 divers are 124mm walker deeper divers. I run two of them on #1 setting and two of them on a #3 setting. Should I be using a 2:1 ratio for the divers set on #1 so 200' line gets 100' down? Should I be using a 3:1 ratio for the divers set on #3 so 300' line gets 100' down? I have the "precision trolling big water edition" and follow the Dipsy diver charts but wanted to know if you are finding the Walker/Lurk divers are different. Thanks for the direction Terry

Awesome video!

X2 on the tangles, Had a buddy insist that we needed more lines in the water and ran stackers on his boat with cowbells below, not only did we have a bad tangle on one side but lost the fish and cowbell set up on the other side. It was all of 30 minutes old as he had opened the brand new package and dropped it for the first and last time. Needless to say we/he never runs stackers or cheaters above cowbells. If the fish are active you will not need them, usually two rods will keep you plenty busy

I know a lot goes into setting up a spread properly to be the most efficient so I will give a brief description of my current layout 20' boat 8' beam 2 riggers run off the back corners usually one rod each with a fixed/sliding cheater (shimano TLR's with Charter specials) 2 magnum divers run on a #1 setting wire (9.5' talora's/ Daiwa 47LC) 2 magnum divers run on a #3 braid (10.5' Daiwa Great Lakes Systems rod/Daiwa 47LC, soon to be replaced with wire 9' Great lakes rods/Daiwa 47LC) have been running 1 rod on a big board on each side of the boat either a 2/3/5 color depending on suspended fish depths 8 rods seems to work well with the team of three guys on the boat I feel confident fishing the current set up I have a few questions that I could use some advice on before I jump into fishing with copper. I currently have two 9' rods that have Daiwa 47LC 5.1:1 reels on them set up as 5 color lead core rods. I plan to repurpose the reels and use them as a second set of wire divers, as the braid divers are proving to be a PITA with the level of fleas I will keep them for early/late season fishing. I will use the rods for the copper set ups. They are older Daiwa SK-77 med 10-25 rods and have plenty of backbone. Based on removing the 5 color from my arsenal what length coppers should I be looking at. I have read a lot of the posts here and based on others set ups I was thinking a 300 and a 400 as a good start. I know that they will be deeper than a 5 color. I typically fish in 300' or less as I don't go offshore or haven't yet. I typically pick up used equipment when I can as $ is tight while my wife is in school and not working. So what lengths should I get as my first two copper rods? (likely my only two) These will run off of a mast with big boards. What reels should I look for? I prefer either Daiwa's or Shimano but willing to use any good quality reel. What is the life expectancy of copper line? Should I run 32 or 45#? I have been looking at the new Daiwa SLW50 and 60's they look to have great reel capacity and a fast retrieval rate with a good level of drag. Obviously these are too new to buy used but Thanks Terry

It turned out that the top eye was bent slightly I tested it in the port rigger same result as well as every depth direction and speed I could try. I corrected it so that it was parallel about 5 degree change and I had no issues with it the last two time out hope this helps

Great recommendations, I will try it on the port side to see how it tracks but what does not make sense is that with both riggers at the same depth starboard side had the 12# torpedo and the port had the 10# ball the ball tracked straight back and the torpedo was wide right. (facing the back of the boat). Tonight I put the torpedo in a jig making sure the bottom fin was 90 degrees with my angle finder and then checked the top loop and it is off 5 degrees. I will check it this weekend on the water before changing anything and see how it tracks on the port side. I ran with it four of the seven days last week during an annual trip to Sodus and direction, depth, and speed had no discernible effect on the way it tracked. I found turning the boom out to 45 degrees was the only thing that kept it directly off the back corner of the boat. I did not try the port side however as I bought the heavier weight to try to compensate for the blow back caused by the subtroll on the starboard rigger. I can't complain about additional time on the water to figure this out. Thanks again

With the subtroll rigger I want to make sure I am tracking straight back and I think I might get into trouble running dipsy's next to it on the port side

Thanks Pap, I bought this at a tackle shop in Sodus so I really think I am stuck with this one. I could try making a couple calls to see if they would be willing to help me correct the issue. great suggestion.

I attach my line to the Blacks release above the subtroll nothing attached to the back of the weight. The top loop looks straight. I will check the DR swivel however I have no issues when I run the ball style weight. Can I bend the top loop to correct the way it runs?

I should clarify it is torpedo style/shape not necessarily brand name. It looks like this, but I took this picture off of the internet and this is NOT an actual picture of the weight and I do not want to misrepresent anyone's product as being inferior or problematic.

I was fishing last week and decided I was going to try to improve the blowback I was seeing on my rigger with a subtroll and 10# round ball. I picked up a 12.5# torpedo as I was not sure if my DR could handle the 16# weights. I put it on and the weight swings hard to the right (facing the back of boat) or port side I moved the swivel base from straight back to 45 degrees to compensate and even at that it was still a little behind the boat (the dr is on the starboard side). So do I continue to run with the DR 45 degrees off the side of the boat or can I "adjust" the weight by bending the metal loop where the cable attaches like tuning a lure or do I try to bend the lower fin on the back of the weight. Which direction is the correct direction as I don't want to work harden the metal by moving it too many times and have it snap off. Thanks Terry