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It seems to have stabilized . 

Maybe because they pulled the plug , or at least partly . 

We also have not had a lot of rain , YET . 

There are many small business folks like myself . And if we don't work , we don't eat or pay our bills . I don't want a handout or no interest loan or even a grant for that matter . I have the gov telling me I can't work ,( I'm classified essential ) , or evict my non paying tennents cabs a landlord ,which I probably wouldn't do anyway . 

I hope dont get sick or worse get a family member or someone else sick . 

You do what you feel is right and I will do the same . 

Just out of curiosity , where does your income stream come from ? 

6 hours ago, fishfearme said:

Maybe you are foolish enough to take that risk which BTW is a lot higher than getting killed in an auto accident or getting shot by a domestic terrorist. I for one have enough compassion for my fellow man to take this virus seriously.

8 minutes ago, fishfearme said:

Booze, guns,motorcycles are a choice. Your grandma/wife/son/grandchild  dying from a virus is your choice by bringing it to them.

 

 

Tell that to mothers against drunk drivers , the kids at Sandy hook . 

There are risks in life . Maybe I die or worse a family member . But at some point , you have to take the risk and let the chips fall where they may . 

With that logic we should outlaw booze , guns , motorcycles , etc, etc, etc. 

2 hours ago, fishfearme said:

I think your going to be very surprised. Is not about the economy its about stemming the tide of what could possibly kill a large amount of people. If you value money over people i feel sad for you.

 

Not a very realistic statement 

From the sounds of it the president and the money guys are getting worried about the economic forecast if this thing goes on . 

And the clowns in congress seemingly can't organize a 2 car funeral. Some using the situation to ram thru their agendas. A new low , if that's possible, in congress yesterday . 

And it seems , and I agree, that the cost of losing the economy and it tanking , is out weighing the potential death count . 

I don't see this shut down in it current state , lasting long  from what I saw yesterday . 

RELAX 

Make sure you use new flares and fittings . If you reuse flares or compression fittings they set and form .And may not seal good a second time .  

I also don't like those fittings that clamp on to the 3/4  And pierce the pipe . 

A sweat fitting or maybe shark tooth for that if it's copper . 

10 hours ago, whaler1 said:

Keith I want nothing to do with it but it should be quite the teachable moment lol.
Great morning for a shake down cruise!


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It 20 deg this morning 

I fished off my seawall yesterday afternoon and the wind was,coming off the lake . Sun was shinning but it was cold . 

I did 3 smallmouth . And raked some leaves . 

You are a better man than me to be out there . Have fun .

I'm going to work .  

The stock hook of the original nk28  was a Eagle claw L 374  1/0 , Mags 2/0 . 

Great hook for the money 

3 hours ago, Sk8man said:

 A key to it is asking ourselves "How can I become part of the solution and NOT part of the problem"

Please spare me the Kuhmbaya speech .

There are a lot of people out there that need to , in no uncertain terms , be told to pull their heads out of their ass and get with the program so that when , not if , something happens like this, they are prepared to weather the storm without being a burden on the rest of us that have taken the time , sacrificed , and prepared ourselves .

 THAT , is their patriotic duty . 

At some point the piper needs to get paid . 

And yes ,I'm calm and using my head ,and still remain positive . 

But there are a lot of morons out there that won't be . And the rest of us will pay the price . 

And as Jimski says . We need to stop outsourcing everything . So we don't have to kiss ass to get essential stuff . 

This kind of stuff is in Trumps wheelhouse . He is organized and knows how to delicate . 

The most scary part of all this ? 

Cuomo and Trump praising and agreeing with each other . 

28 minutes ago, GAMBLER said:

Not true. I have an essential government job but my wife does not. Losing one income is a huge hit to my household.


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As I said , gov jobs will not  be affected . The money always seems to be there for those . Like clockwork . 

Imagine if both household incomes were not Gov  jobs . 

A young couple , mortgage to the max , car payments , health ins , credit cards . 

No savings . 

I see a lot of buying opportunity coming soon for those that have money . 

And a lot of bankruptcy if this doesn't end very soon . 

The gap between the haves and have nots will widen , greatly . 

Hello Bernie !! 

I don't mind looking out for the health of my fellow Americans , but I don't want to go broke doing it . 

R

13 hours ago, whaler1 said:

 

You can call your mortgage company and banks that hold your car notes and defer payments for 90 days.


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DEFER 

That is the operative word in that statement 

DEFER for 90 days . And after those 90 days which it 3 payments you will have to come up with those 3 payments and the 4 th that is due . Not a goods scenario for a lot of people , and a recipe for disaster . 

The are doing the same thing with business sales taxes and other stuff . 

You don't have to pay now but you have to pay a lot more latter . 

As a landlord , similar rules have been enacted . I have hard time getting some to pay on time as it is  as some of my tennents are barely making it . Can't wait to see the fun that is coming down . 

Anyone with a gov job will not be financially affected 

Anyone on a pension other than gov or on SS may be affected long term 

Essential businesses may see a boom long term . 

Small business non essential will get hurt greatly short term and will drive some out of business .  Also their employees . 

If you have investments which are your retirement , they in some cases have dropped by a third . 

Payments on a lot of stuff will be late for some time to come for those that live hand to mouth.  And the people that receive those payments and depend on them will feel the affects . Remember the housing bubble ? . Bankruptcy lawyers will get rich. And this will bring the rest of the country down .

Unemployment will spike , thus depleting the fund , which employers will see added assessments to their contributions .  

Unfortunately , this may be the reality of this . 

The Gov knows all this , thus the stimulus ,which will soften the blow . 

My feeling is this will blow over soon and  I'm hoping for that.  But we could feel the affect of this for a while . 

The good thing about this is a reorganization of essential medical etc. 

Bring the capabilities of those home so we can take care of ourselves . Which means jobs for citizens . It really is a national security issue . 

I'm going to work until somebody physically tells me I can't . 

Fishing again today . 

Stay well my friends . 

The smart decision is to stay home 

Don't take any unnecessary chances and put yourself or anyone else in harm's way or God forbid something happen you use services that should be used somewhere else . 

The last thing I want right now is for me or a loved one to be in a hospital . 

Fish for what is close to you . And ride it out . 

Stay well my friends 

Just run sticks at first . 

My setup for less than 12 ft are sticks off boards at first 

Then add to it 

K.I.S.S. 

The Fed and state are hemorrhaging money on Med And security reasons 

There are many that live from hand to mouth , and have just had their paycheck taken away . 

The tax money revenue machine   for sales and income tax has been cut in half. 

April 15 is coming up soon and many will be stone broke by then 

Stimulus checks will be going out soon. 

Where is the money going to  come from ? We already are operating at a deficit . 

It's going to take years to recover from this . I hope I'm wrong . 

I was hoping for a new hatchery for Brown's , but my guess is that won't happen . 

I just hope we maintain the level of fishery we have . Which at this point seems trivial . 

Prepare yourselves for cuts . 

I'll leave the " they are overreacting to the situation " for another conversation . 

Off the dock yesterday afternoon , a few Smallmouth and a brown . Jigs under a float . 

I'm going as much as I can while I still can . Can't Catch the CV   fishing . 

Bridges were loaded with cars . Guys have the same idea,as me . 

Stay well my friends . 

Agreed about sticks over spoons in shallow water as they sink on turns and if the board stalls . 

if you are in water 12 ft or less , often times the best depth , you have to know the dive rate of the sticks you are running 

I like 3 1/2" or 4 1/2" jointed rebels , my favorites  in shallow water . Tuned to run shallow . 

 F 9 and F 11 Rapalas 

J 9 and J 11 rapala in water deeper than 10 ft as they dice deeper 

I like Smithwicks also .  Also Long A bombers . 

What is the most important thing in a survival situation ? 

PMA

Positive mental attitude 

Stay well my friends 

I'm off to the creek . 

Just got back from the cottage 

4 smallmouth , of which one was a hog 

And lost a a nice  Brown . 

North east wind , cold ! 

I am going tommorow sometime , and Friday ..

I am going fishing as much a possible for as long as I can while I still can . 

I am going right now . 

And also 

Cuomo made a speech the other day . I can't stand him or his policies but he did a great job with it . Chuck and Nancy showed some good leadership in congress . Trump and Pence have done good work also . Everyone working together  for once . Doing what we sent them there for . It took this . 

It's funny how every few years something comes up that forces us to work together to solve a big problem and stop bickering . 

I still say it's being overblown . 

It looks like panic & fear  has taken hold of some . 

It has become apparent to me that

To many people in this country fly by the seat of their pants day by day . They are not prepared for a bad situation that may arise . And seemingly feel that the gov will be their to bail them out .

This should serve as a wake up call to them ( but it probably won't ) that they should prepare themselves for the unknown that may occur that would disrupt their lives  .