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https://www.dec.ny.gov/about/698.html Region 5 roster https://www.dec.ny.gov/about/696.html Region 6 roster IF no one picks up, https://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/67751.html or call Albany: Call the DEC Division of Law Enforcement hotline at 1-844-DEC-ECOS (1-844-332-3267). Never put yourself at risk - gather what information you can without trespassing or exposing yourself to harmful materials or situations.

I know that reading is becoming a lost skill, but please check your regulations guide. While C+R is legal in some counties, this is not the case in the Islands, and part of the 'daks. It is clearly stated: "Fishing for black bass (including catch & release) is prohibited outside of the open season." http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/fishing/st-lawrence-county/ http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/fishing/jefferson-county/ http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/fishing/franklin-county/ http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/fishing/hamilton-county/ Lets see now, that "stand a chance" "logic" can be used to justify salmon snagging and lining, baiting waterfowl, jacking deer, etc, etc, etc...... Another problem I see here is expecting DEC to catch these morons without assistance. The St Lawrence is a big place for a couple of ECO's in a small boat. Drop a dime to the local officer's and there is a better chance of them getting there and catching them. None has mentioned trying that.

It seems to me that most of the research Cobleskill is doing is either creating a "frankenfish" for aquaculture, or fixing problems that were caused by introducing fish that weren't there to begin with. So how are walleye, a warmer water fish, supposed to do in one of the deepest coldest freshwater oligotrophic lakes on the planet? And why aren't they there already, if the habitat is right, they could certainly get there through the canal system? And of course, what will that do to the trout and salmon fishery, the native species of the lake, DEC has reported that they do not see walleye and trout as compatible in other Finger Lakes?

Troy sold it to Leo Maloney at Adirondack Outdoors, Leo sold it back to Troy, they started charging for the magazines, but did not change the format, the website appears to be off line.

Well, VHS is in most of these interconnected bodies of water in western NY at this point. Has anyone notified Region 8?

Sewage contamination is short lived, bacteria in the water break down the organic wastes rapidly, generally using a lot of dissolved oxygen while doing it, which is what often causes a fish kill. But in lakes, mechanical mixing action often mitigates a lot of the oxygen loss, and bullheads are able to survive very low oxygen levels anyway. They are actually more often killed by elevated oxygen levels, such as occasionally occur in the canal. With the major temperature swings we have been seeing lately, it is likely, based on the species mix, that this was a thermal shock incident, especially if it is on the north end and there have been south winds.

True dat, but he also said "a place to stay closer to Krenzer’s marina" and everyone has been talking about t bait shop on the Point. I know that trolling has a sort of hypnotic effect, likely effects reading comprehension, too.....;)

He wasn't looking for bait shop, he was looking for a place to stay. Jes' sayin'

http://www.asoduspointlodge.com/

Paul D'Amato is Director for Region 8, which is where both Seneca and Ontario Counties are located, as are the three counties listed for treatment. Web Pearsall is the Region 8 Fisheries Manager, and he'll be in the field with the crews doing the work. A lot of the tributaries to all the Finger Lakes are short, dropping off the high hills and then a short run to the lake, limited habitat. From the DEC webpage for the lake: An important factor in recent resurgence of the Seneca salmonid fishery is DEC's ongoing control of the parasitic sea lamprey. The control program involves applications of the highly selective chemical lampricide, TFM, to known sea lamprey nursery areas in Catherine Creek and Keuka Lake Outlet at the three year intervals. The continued quality of Seneca's excellent trout and salmon fishing depends heavily on DEC's ability to apply this management tool at critical times in the future.

DEC Announces Sea Lamprey Control Treatments on Seneca Lake to Enhance Lake Trout and Salmon Populations A program to combat the parasitic sea lamprey is scheduled to begin the week of June 4 on Seneca Lake tributaries in Chemung, Schuyler and Yates Counties, Paul D'Amato, Regional Director of the state Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) announced today. By effectively controlling sea lampreys, DEC can reduce mortality rates for fish targeted by sea lamprey, especially lake trout, rainbow trout, brown trout, and landlocked salmon. In addition, fewer sea lampreys mean fewer unsightly scars and wounds on sportfish. Typically, immature sea lamprey live in streams for three to four years before they become parasitic, descending into the lake to prey on other fish, like trout and salmon. Through the sea lamprey control program, DEC will apply a lampricide, called TFM (3-trifluoromethyl-4-nitrophenol) to the streams in a continuous, metered manner over a period of approximately 12 hours to kill the immature, larval form of the sea lamprey. TFM is a selective pesticide used extensively for sea lamprey control in the Great Lakes for decades and in Seneca Lake tributaries since 1982. The dosage levels of TFM that are lethal to larval sea lampreys can be harmlessly processed by most other aquatic organisms. Following an environmental impact statement and public hearing that were conducted prior to initiation of the sea lamprey control program, DEC concluded that the sea lamprey control program "offers an effective and immediate measure for protecting the native lake trout populations in Seneca Lake." DEC further concluded that the project will not have any significant impacts to the environment or non-target organisms exposed to the lampricide. Some minor fish and aquatic invertebrate mortality is expected and may be visible. The stream treatments do not pose any significant hazard to human health. However, as a precautionary measure, the NYS Department of Health (NYSDOH) has advised no stream water consumption, fishing, swimming, livestock watering or irrigation in the treatment zone during and immediately following applications. Appropriate signs will be posted along the treated streams. Since 1982, Catharine Creek and Keuka Outlet have been treated ten and six times, respectively, without any significant environmental or human health problems or impacts. DEC will treat waters inhabited by juvenile sea lampreys in Catharine Creek and tributaries from the Chemung/Schuyler County line to Montour Falls and Keuka Outlet from Cascade Mills downstream. Lampricide applications are scheduled to start June 5 in Catharine Creek and June 7 in Keuka Outlet, however, weather conditions may warrant postponement to later in the week or the following week.

You might want to try the Finger Lakes section of the site, and the Cayuga pages specifically. This time of year, I'd flatline rapalas 100+ feet behind the boat, and run a tandem streamer rig in the propwash, and run fast, as those techniques have worked for me on LL salmon in the Adirondacks. But on the other board, you'll find a lot of guys who know south Cayuga a lot better.

Yes, the receipt is crucial if you get checked. I was concerned because there have been LO guys talking about bringing bait from elsewhere, and DEC is VERY concerned about the possibilities of introducing yet another disease into the system. All it will take is one bug that had not been an issue with salmon in the past, but is in this system, and the whole thing could disappear. The next whirling disease or BKN or VHS could be the last one!

http://lre-wm.usace.army.mil/ForecastData/DailyLevelsEnglish.pdf

I checked with Region 8, and there is one licensed distributor of certified sawbellies in the Finger Lakes.

Hardly worth the effort to go out at night with the one rainbow limit now.

No, but they did fish with them from time to time. This was ~ 40 years ago, too, Andy has long since moved to CT.

For certification, they have to be tested. I knew the dealers netted them, and my friends that used to night fish Canandaigua told me how fragile they were, so I just assumed a dealer would only sell on the lake where they were netted, to avoid the certification cost and hassle and the additional holding time and risk of loss. But if they are a buck apiece now, it's likely worth the risk. We are paying close to a buck apiece for shiners up in the 'daks anymore! Thanks for the explanation.