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  1. Lucky13

    Brown or LL salmon??

    I can see red spots on the sides, and more red on the adipose and caudal fins than I would associate with a landlocked, so I'm voting brown. This is a great example of why ECO's count the rays in the anal fin, and check the roof of the mouth ( I've been with an ECO when he did it to some landlocks we caught in Fourth Lake in the Fulton Chain.) The way I see it, the mouth does extend behind the eye, also.
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    Seneca Seneca lampreys

    I heard from Web Pearsall, Region 8 Fisheries Manager, last fall, that Region 8 was doing lampricide applications in Seneca Tribs last fall. He was aware of the complaints about lousy fishing early in the year, but also said that his informants indicating that things picked up later in the season.
  3. We have Washington ( Chambers Creek) strain, Skamania strain, and McCloud strain fish in Lake Ontario. All are the same species, Oncorhynchus mykiss, reclassified from Genus Salmo because a Russian taxonomist was determined to have described and named the species first. The Chambers Creek fish go into the rivers and streams that are stocked with "steelhead," most if not all Skamania's go into the Salmon River, and both are raised at the Altmar hatchery. The McCloud fish are descended from the fish brought to NYS by Seth Green, are shore stocked along the lake at various locations, are raised at the Randolph hatchery, and are often referred to as domestic rainbows . While the saltwater distinction is maintained by some biologists and a lot of west coast fishers, many also see the freshwater transplants as also being "steelhead, because they follow the same stream, big water, stream life cycle as they do in Saltwater.
  4. Lucky13

    Good read

    As for Victorlas, the spring motors were generally obtained from old units left on the curb for the trashman. Nowadays, people look for the trolling units so they can get a spring motor for restoring a Victrola. If someone manufactured a spring operated motor now, that would handle 200-300 feet of line, I'd buy a couple, pulling wire is very effective up in the 'daks, where the bottom is generally too rough and variable for downriggers!
  5. Lucky13

    Good read

    Holdren’s classic has been out of print for quite a while, and will bring a fair number of dollars if you can find one in fair or better shape. Some of the book is printed as an appendix to the Sander’s Guide that covers the Finger Lakes, but the Sander’s Guides are also getting kind of rare. I’m surprised that no one has seen an opportunity to re-release these very helpful books from the past, I’ve used some of his odd tricks, like a streamer or a wetfly up the leader, with great success in the Adirondacks, and there are a ton of different topics discussed on all aspects of trout fishing in the Fingers. His description of the “submarine currents” and their effects on the lure alone is worth the price of the book, although $125 is rich for my bank account.
  6. Lucky13

    Antique tackle collector

    If the Genny ever comes down, you'll find him down there!
  7. Lucky13

    Hemlock 2018 Hemlock netting survey

    I caught a 27 incher a few years back. I mentioned this fish to Matt Sanderson of Region 8. He told me that every year they get a couple of reports, same area of the lake (sorry, you'll have to get Mr Okrepki to tell you where that is, he knows everything about walleyes!), similar sizes. They know there is some limited reproduction going on as they have not stocked walleyes in a very long time in there. They will not increase this population through stocking as their surveys indicated that the majority of the angling population favored maintenance of Hemlock as a trout fishery.
  8. Lucky13

    kueka Ciscoe stocking

    Actually, the meeting was last May.
  9. Lucky13

    kueka Ciscoe stocking

    There were Browns in Kueka before stocking, they raise them at the Bath Hatchery, and occasionally one or two escape.
  10. Lucky13

    kueka Ciscoe stocking

    From the Power Point used at the meeting back in the spring. (my bold) Management Actions/Proposals • Continue monitoring salmonine populations  Gillnetting (3 yr), Angler diary (annually), spring RT (annually), RT production (3 yr), Biomonitoring (coordinate agencies) • Stock Finger Lakes strain rainbow trout yearlings  Hatchery limited • Eliminate brown trout and/or Atlantic salmon stocking • Develop plan to monitor warmwater fishery • Determine status of walleye population • Develop forage fish assessment plan • Stock cisco
  11. Lucky13

    kueka Ciscoe stocking

    From a post from a diary cooperator last March, "From Diary program. “considering the current forage conditions in Keuka Lake, we are temporarily discontinuing these stocking programs.” (Browns/Atlantic). Rainbow stockings will get yearling Finger Lakes strain rainbow stockings in place of fingerlings. A bit larger fish.... "
  12. Lucky13

    Hemlock 2018 Hemlock netting survey

    They netted at the end of June. They likely netted at the bottom in relatively deep water, as the lake was likely starting to strongly stratify. Rainbows, browns and walleyes would be unlikely to be in that "slice" of the lake, they would still be shallower.
  13. It has always been my sense that New York would not mind getting rid of all the shags. It is the US Fish and Wildlife Service that controls those strings, not NYSDEC.
  14. Definitely a trophy there!! And in the summer, too! Back in the day, when there were a lot of bigguns around, I passed on mounting anything under 20, never broke that mark, and could have been admiring 5 bigger than 17, including a gorgeous 17 lb 5 oz hen, which I kept and weighed at Whitaker's at the request of the owner, Jim Rusher. As Whaler says, if it looks good to you, go for it. If you want to do C+R, take a lot of pix and go for a reproduction mount, they are really great these days, as you can sometimes see on ths website.
  15. This is not true. There is a dam on Beaver Dam brook not far upstream of the Rt 22 bridge over it, less than 1/4 mile upstream of the hatchery. If they were concerned about stopping natural reproduction in tributaries, they would have to deal with Trout Brook and Orwell Brook, both of which offer miles of good gravel. The gate on Beaver Dam forces the fish to take the ladder. After egg take they often drop the gate.
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