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    St. Lawrence River Navionics maps?

    in Walleye

    Posted

    Well I have some good news...

     

    I have been working back and forth with a Navionics Customer Service representative and based on my input they will be making some improvements to the Navionics+ Eastern downloadable charts for the St. Lawrence River. The improvements will include the missing chart sections on the river just east of Chippewa Point / Oak Point area and also east of Ogdensberg Bridge. These areas did not have the sonar chart details like the Mobile App and Web charts. Also to be updated will be any missing Community Edits including ship wrecks, etc. Once these changes have been made I will notify on this thread so people with downloaded Navionic+ charts for the river can update their chips.

     

    I also requested that the sonar chart contour lines be fixed / upgraded between Rock Island heading east to Chippewa Bay where they are broken and jumbled. They have opened 2 work cases for this and will notify me when it is complete and available for download.

     

    I have been very pleased with Navionics responsiveness and the overall look and feel of their product for my Hook5 plotter. 

    Looking forward to fishing with it this summer. Hope your reset clears up your tracking delay Chowdaire.

    St. Lawrence River Navionics maps?

    in Walleye

    Posted

    Well I took the chip out of the Hook5 and downloaded a smaller area of lakes. This cut down the size of the download quite a bit. The download was for all 3 types of info: nautical charts, sonar charts and community edits (same as I did two times previous). Then I downloaded only the community edit updates on top of that.

     

    I put the chip in the Hook5 and checked for the community edits like ship wrecks and fishing spots, etc. and low and behold they showed up but only with the chart set to Navionics (and not Fish - n - chip). This is the opposite from what you said you had with the Hook7 Chowdaire. Not sure why they would be the opposite but I have no edits with mine set on Fish - n - chip.

     

    I am still not getting the same quality of contour lines that the mobile app map has for some sections of the SLR. Oh well it will be functional like it is. I still want to hear back from Navionics to see what they say. Seems like a software issue not a Hook5 issue?  

    Thanks for your suggestions guys.

    St. Lawrence River Navionics maps?

    in Walleye

    Posted

    St. Lawrence River Navionics maps?

    I picked up a new Hook 5 chart / sonar unit with Navionics+ east chip. Downloaded the maps for New York, Ohio, etc. including the SLR. Question for those who have Navionics+ for the river... Do you find there are stretches of the river where the contour lines are broken and uneven? I find that along from about Rock Island east to before Ogdensberg the map contour line quality changes a few times. Some stretches have smooth contours and others have choppy broken and more geometric looking lines. Also my mobile phone app has better quality map content and shows details like ship wrecks, etc. that my download to chip does not pick up.  

    Interested in what other people have experienced in terms of contour line detail and quality. Thanks.

    Protecting SLR walleyes

    in Walleye

    Posted

    I interpreted their reference of it to a "feel good" stocking program to be sort of a high brow put down of the great work being done by concerned sportsmen. From some of the background history I have read about Captain Bob Flavia and Mr. Bouchard the DEC resisted them since the beginning in 1989. Not surprising they are not praising it now. Reluctant participation is better than none... I guess.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

    Protecting SLR walleyes

    in Walleye

    Posted

    According to the SLR Valley Sportsmen's Clubs face book page they have stocked about 1 million walleye total so far. That has got to have made a major contribution to the overall population in the upper and lower river sections. Fish naturally love to swim upstream against the current. Ogdensburg stocked fish are probably migrating up river. Kevin's proposal for a tagging study would be able to confirm this for sure. Neat pictures of netting walleye to collect eggs.

    https://www.facebook.com/St-Lawrence-Valley-Sportsmens-Club-218012358215701/

    Protecting SLR walleyes

    in Walleye

    Posted · Edited by Stillwater

    I have done a little looking on the DEC website and found a related "St Lawrence River Fish Communities" page. At the bottom of this page there are 3 links to .pdf documents. Take a look at the middle one labeled "2015 St. Lawrence River Fisheries Update". This contains graphs showing population trends for the major game fish species. It is interesting that the Walleye population really grew in the last 15 years. It peaked in 2009 and is currently looking like it is on the increase again. This may be in line with the stocking efforts for the SLRWA that has been underway. Glad to find this information. Looks like their are a couple more links within this .pdf with more background as well. Good rainy day reading. Good luck everyone. I hope to fish the river again in late August or September.

    http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/102945.html

    Protecting SLR walleyes

    in Walleye

    Posted

    Maybe someone from SUNY ESF would like to take it up as a masters or Phd thesis project. You would think that the DEC fisheries at the Cape Vincent research site and world class research boats and equipment would jump all over this one. To me the walleye is a very unique and valuable game fish that still has a lot of unknowns surrounding it. This is an example of the gap in available science / information. The US and State government spends a lot of money to study many things that are far less useful and even wasteful. If you look at the DEC fisheries website they post their annual research and fisheries updates. This would be higher on the list than many that I have seen. Oh well. I did read that they were slow to get on board with the SLRWA efforts to help boost the walleye. Maybe a not invented here view?

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