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Do you oppose supporting American companies? 

Not at all.. But there's two sides to this lake. That narrative works when talking about China. Kind of insulting when it's used against the country that lends a hand whenever asked. Glad you got help with your prop this weekend!

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Yes but beam as in fighting fish with outboard and kicker on 8 ft beam. Widen where wires are behind boat a tad and the fish fighting room will widen

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The added beam doesn't exponentially add to the spread width. So you're in an 8 foot beamed boat and then you compare to a 10 foot bean you've only added 1 foot of space on each side though out the entire system from boat to lure I'm only talking about tangles on the take then with the fish travelling to the surface. Which is where most dipsey tangles happen. Tangling while fighting the fish is a different matter. But you are right to state that a higher setting will help reduce tangles 100%. Beam isn't really a factor though.

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Catch ratio probably won't change much but with a 2.5 setting you open your spread a bit and less chances of tangles directly behind the boat especially with a narrow beam.

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Beam would have nothing to do with it. Lead length off your ball does though

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Are you serious with that crap? Climate change has been around forever. Call it global warming please. I know that's what you really mean. Did you know we've had a couple ice ages? Yup, the earth had to get warm first to have the second one. The atmoworks in "cycles". May e more people should learn about it rather than spread bull crap lies.


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I'd call it human caused global temperature increase at an astonishing rate. We've pushed the needle what would equate to an entire geological epoch since the 1940s. What would normally take 10000+ years. You suppose this drastic change in weather patterns which is clearly noticeable in our lifetime is nonsense, then I'll suppose you have no idea how to separate truth from fiction.



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Why support a Canadian company when Familiar Bite is made near Buffalo and is an American company? Familiar Bite will have Pacific Herring, Atlantic Herring, Alewife, and Ballyhoo available this season.

Hope you enjoyed your tax free winnings. Smh

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Keep at it guys, that is just about the best way to let that proposal gather steam.

It's because they think it's their right.. If you're going to eat those fish, birds, whatever. Do what you like. I'm pro hunting, fishing but because I can see why people would think the sensationalized attitude towards life some have and freely brag about is disgusting. That makes me a leftist crazy to these people. The paranoia and child like reactions to people questioning your scruples just fuels their fire. Try arguing with someone who doesn't want to argue... Or show them their are wrong by setting a good example for your practice. The idea of us all being in this together is a great idea but truth is there's a lot of people on my side that I just don't agree with, and their beliefs and practices I don't believe in. I feel like these people are doing more damage to my pastime than animal rights activists because without their stupid gopher shoots and pictures all over the internet portraying hunting as something it should never be. And it adds fuel to the fire. We all need to be more socially aware of how others would view us.

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I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the production. There's days where it doesn't hit. But there's days where it will shine. Your first birds nest you'll laugh at how easy it is to free up

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I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the production. There's days where it doesn't hit. But there's days where it will shine. Your first birds nest you'll laugh at how easy it is to free up

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id really like the results of that test. my copper have 1 more year left in them and id just as soon replace with weighted steel.

I'm going to try a FH td on one. Not that will likely change my use of it. Seems to work really well early season. Which makes sense even if it isn't achieving a lot of depth.. Just another tool in the box.

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so smug its disgusting.  Why are you even on this site Bandrus?  I dont get it.

Pot calling the kettle black. Out of site out of mind... Why even open the door to scrutinize a dumb activity. Keep it low key and people won't care. You have to realize times change. Not smug at all.. On the money.

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You can lead a horse to water.......
 
 
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Way to bring something to the table... Smh.

Some really good points above though.

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With the amount of money time and effort that goes into this style of fishing, putting less fish in the boat because you don’t want to spend $700.00 is nuts! A speed and temp until WILL put more fish on the deck. Using a speed and temp unit will take the guess work out of it and allow you to figure out what speed and temp the fish prefer that day. Then you can repeat it over and over again with out guessing.
 
 
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You're giving the unit too much credit. Think about the situation the OP is in versus your comment. He's asking is it a nessisary. People make speed at the ball to be something it's not. If you're catching enough fish that you can determine what exact mph they prefer then how many extra fish is the probe going to catch you. And conversely when they aren't hitting your spread it definitely can't tell you a thing. A new fisherman has way more things holding him back then not knowing speed at the ball. Even less so temp. Watching you're cable angle as you change directions and tilt side to side tells you the current and speed for free. Everyone's phone does gps and sog. If you can afford it. Sure. But 700$ isn't chump change for everyone.

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I dont necessarily fish temp but i like to know where it is. Realistically there is no way im going without fish finder anyway, i was just playing along with the prior commentary [emoji6]

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I get it. I get why they are handy but I'm going to tell a newbie to spend 700 on gas and charters. No better way to learn how to increase your success rate.

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I would say its highly situational. I fish out if mexico. Deep water off of mexico bay (around the point) can have wicked currents deep and very scattered marks. FH over fish finder here. Inside the bay fishing Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

All good if kings are in the temp you expect.

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I'd fish without sonar before I fished without a FH.  

I hear this sentiment a lot.. But I'd say it's overzealous.. I want to know depth and what depth fish are hanging out at. I can't tell that from the deck but I can tell you from the deck roughly what speed my lures are running. I promise with a sonar that I can out fish someone who only has a fish hawk because I'm not wasting time where the fish are not at. To the OP, it's not essential equipment.. Sonar with a gps is a far better investment if you don't have a good one imo

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I run 200 feet of weighted steel with 300 feet of 19 strand backed by another 600 feet of braid. Clip the 19 strand to a Scotty release as the inside rod running big boards. 19 strand sags a lot more but as long as it's out of the water it gets far enough that I've never had a tangle with a diver.. The stuff works and I've never had a birds nest I couldn't fix in 2 minutes or less. 19 strand holds in the clip just fine. I have two rods set up this way and before July they out fished everything else on the boat 2:1. Fwiw

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I have a bunch of them.  Always was impressed with the quality of finish, quality of split rings and quality of hooks.  Great spoon for steelhead when you want to cover some ground and get that speed over 2.5 mph.  I have heard some of the early reproductions the new company put out had some issues with the paint jobs holding up?  That was over a year ago so they probably have the kinks ironed out.  

Ya they've got it solved.. If you run into old stock and the paint washes off... Mail em back and they send you more. Len Thompson the company that bought nk are the grandkids of the founder len Thompson. So it's still a family owned business. And really nice people.

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When I hit about 80 feet I dropped the balls and turned toward some kind of factory on the right and when I hit about 95 feet we lost one at boat right away and minutes later we got double hitter and they stop after and we got 3 one down to 115 feet in front of that factory

That is referred to as the cement plant. That's great you found them that quick..

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Watermelon and we were getting hits on orange crush it was beautiful day until I left the 400 was jammed up for awhile but I will returne end of July 

Glad you found some for all that driving. Were you straight out from credit?

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Just got back caught 3 and missed a bunch biggest one 8lbs went to port credit Mississauga all in 90 to 115 water ball set to 45 to 65 feet watermelon was the hit today 

Interesting.. Yesterday in same area they wouldn't touch watermelon but they loved wonderbread.

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Where did you go

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The hell with it I'm heading there in the morning I'll let you no how I did

Good luck

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If st Catherine's is too far I'd wait and go to bluffers in July. North shore is picking up but I wouldn't drive 5 hours for it yet.

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Looking for some info on the area, I’ve never fished the lake that far north, thanks for any input! I’d like to give the browns a shot.

Like stoney creek Ontario? Salmon have been there between there and Hamilton the last two weeks in that stretch

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Be safe and take a voltage reading with a volt meter. Better safe than sorry. I believe anything above 14 volts could be high for the unit...not 100% sure... 

Alternators charge at 14.4 volts.. So I doubt that would be too high. Anything over that would be abnormal

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