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    Load Rite 16'-20' boat trailer

    in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent

    Posted · Edited by cinnamon fish

    Load Rite boat trailer. Solid heavy duty roller trailer good for a 16' - 20' boat. Rollers in great shape. Axle and hubs good too. Working tail lights, turn signals. Tires are old but still have tread on them. Buyer will need to register it homemade, no paperwork.  Can provide any measurements if needed, just let me know.

    Ithaca, NY

    $475 

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    Canandaigua Lake Trout Derby

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted · Edited by cinnamon fish

    2 hours ago, Sk8man said:

    After a few days of thinking about the derby and the winning fish. A few speculations come to mind which could be instructional. Firs of all that laker is so far off the charts from the usual winner or even the previous record fish that I caught in 2016 (16.18 lb Brown) it is hard to imagine a trout that big (nearly twice the size) being down there all these years while his peers must be long gone. He obviously was doing something different that they weren't doing. My hunch is he may be even older than Gambler estimated based on his own gargantuan laker from Lake O because of the difference in food availability, and perhaps even bait size and diversity in Canandaigua (perhaps slower growth rate?). My hunch is he may be close to 30 years old. No matter what he didn't get to that age or size by being careless or stupid:smile: Taking into consideration the area in which he was caught (near the deepest spot in the lake) and the method which was rather unorthodox for catching a laker out deep (on a stickbait trolled shallow over deep water) it made me wonder if perhaps he mainly resided out there in that deep water area near the deepest spot in the lake and maybe didn't frequent the shallower ends of the lake where much more fishing tends to occur, where he would have been more vulnerable etc. or whether perhaps he was a mainly a night feeder or something. I know on Seneca in years past I used to heavily fish the 500 ft. barge area and would frequently mark huge fish down between 300 and 450 ft. and it was alwaays rumored that divers had seen gigantic fish down there.  I know that in that general area of the lake there is a pretty constant source of bait nearly all year around hugging bottom so the fish may not have needed to travel far for food or be in "risky" places. The first day I marked several very long pods of bait stretched along the bottom the first day in 156ft through 192 ft of water very little suspended. About all of the previous night fishing on Canandaigua stopped many years ago and usually it was limited to the first 150 ft or so of water at the south end and not in the area he was caught so if he was in the depths he would have avoided that as well. This brings us to the current situation wherein he was caught. There was a lot of suspended debris in the lake this weekend and lakers are great "opportunists" so I wonder if he was up higher than usual checking out the debris field for potential food and here comes this nice stickbait scurrying by and boom he makes his mistake:lol:. Obviously all supposition but fun trying to figure it out anyway:smile:.

     

    Love reading your thoughts/wisdom on these scenarios Les.  I would guess you're right about it being older... I've heard a few times that Lake O fish grow much faster than Finger Lakes fish on average.  I definetly will likely find myself fishing more of that super deep water.  I usually venture out there anyway and mix it up a bunch with different depths, but now I might spend a little more time in the super deep water on all the fingers.

    Btw, I saw you out there in your whaler and waved to you and saw you wave back Saturday early morning just north of the launch.  Was me in the vintage white starcraft center console.

    Canandaigua Lake Trout Derby

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    16 hours ago, AnglingAddict said:

    12# plenty for spoon fishing for lakers.  We run 12# and later in the season 15# for kings and have taken numerous high 20's fish on leader that light.  Properly weighted rod, in an experienced guys hands with a great reel and super smooth drag I wouldn't hesitate to run 12#.  That being said you would have to play the fish longer and your odds of losing it increase - so from that line of thinking heavier leader is better - but you pay a price in terms if bites normally - lighter leaders will usually outfish the guys running cable.

     

    8lb & 10lb fluro for me... I went higher for a bit and caught fewer fish.  Went down to 6lb for a bit too but lost too many good fish.  I couldn't agree more, learning to play the fish, staying sensitive to it's moves using a very good drag system is the key.

    Lake trout derby confusion.

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted

    The LL that was first marked as a brown was weighed at Geneva.  
    The one thing I don't understand is the Sampson weigh in scenario... if there aren't enough volunteers, they should at the very least come to that conclusion several days before the derby starts and make the announcement to all who have entered the derby.  Not the day of, that's not right.  I will say that I am thankful the derby is still happening and thank those who have worked hard to make it happen.
     

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