NyFallGuy

15 hours ago, Sk8man said:

There can be the problem of carrying around small fish when the release is too tight and often by the time you realize it (especially in rough water conditions etc.) it is too late for the fish if needed to release. If the release is set to about 3 lbs or so smaller fish can struggle and release it much of the time. Using the (about $10 digital luggage scale e.g. Walmart) can allow you to fine tune things to your preference rather than guessing. I tighten the release tighter than that when running attractors.

You're exactly correct about the small fish not surviving the ride along.  If I see them out there, I lighten up the tension and/or check my lines much more often.  It's almost funny how good you feel about releasing a small survivor.

8 hours ago, Legacy said:

 

I run my releases extremely tight. Tight enough that most fish can not release them on their own. 20# kings struggle to release them. When a fish hits them I want to be able to get to them and release them. Not the fish. Lock them down and I bet your hook up ratio increases.

I keep my clips super tight too.  Personally, I've felt that if the clip releases, it doesn't matter how fast I grab the rod, with any slack on the line the fish (salmon) always

seems to get off the hook.  I like the cannon clips.  The "click...click...click" means I'm good.  Oh, the only issue I've had is when the dinks are out.  You could be driving around for an hour without a hit, because you've got a dink in tow.

Great report!

Thanks guys!

I was wondering how important wind direction is right now on the niagara bar this time of year.

Later on in the season, if the wind is coming from any Easterly direction there was almost no point of heading out, but perhaps 
before the thermocline gets all set up and the lake flips this is not the case?  Maybe in the Spring, blowing cooler water towards our Southern shore pulls the fish in closer?

Going out Tuesday, so I guess I'll find out, but any tutelage would be greatly appreciated.

You could probably do an engine swap pretty easily, yes?

(one boat to another)

I was thinking of doing the exact same thing.  Have not heard anything but that doesn't mean 

they're not there, fingers crossed.

On 9/8/2021 at 12:49 PM, Low Baller said:

I don't spend enough time to give scientific data, but I can say that the average length to weight of stagers in Mexico have decreased in the last 12 yrs. Based again on a handful of personal catches and comparisons to others . The one male king we boated last weekend was 39" - 26.9 lbs with a 24 1/2" girth. Fattest king I've ever caught in that size bracket. 

Less fish more bait? I have no idea. He had all of his fins, natural spawn? Curious. 

Still new to identifying these beasts.  The last king I caught, I seemed to think it looked to have more fins but didn't give it 

much more thought, as it was the largest I had ever caught.  Niagara bar.  

Torpedos, absolutely.  I tried pancakes... bending them, tuning them.  It's a pain.  The torpedos are perfect.

They have the least blow back and maintain their direction.  I use 12 pound.

I've been dying to try this out.  I thought it would make a funny vid.  Sitting back, hit the Cannon auto-retrieve, and find a 

30 pound king hooked right off the torpedo!  Beer in hand, of course.

I find it so exciting.  No, actually, it's nuts.  I go out alone running 2 down riggers.  When I get one on I have to 

look up to see where the traffic is and engage the auto-pilot, a.k.a the bungee cord.  It's not so great.  

Try fighting a fish and steering with your butt through traffic.  It gets intense.

On 5/13/2021 at 3:22 PM, Sk8man said:

I'm certain it was a whole more than guessing at passwords etc. They hacked into the software comp[any that provides security for our government and they stole the tools we use to hack and trace down other adversary countries. In short the game is over right now combining that with the fact that the scums at Honeywell gave the blueprints for our most advanced aircraft (fighters and bombers) to the Chinese. Thye have been trying to get into the electric grid too and if that happens we are at the mercy of our adversaries.

The hackers got into the government system by sending out a trojan horse update to the government.  Thinking they were simply updating their infrastructure monitoring software, they wound up passing it along from one system to another.  This move gave the hackers "back doors" to systems all over the place.  Basically, it was a little more sophisticated than simply guessing that some slacker used "Admin" and "Password" on their desktop, not that that doesn't happen far too often, sadly.

1 hour ago, bigwalleye said:

Hundreds and hundreds of boats down west twd the bar is what a dude in Olcott told me today. I plan to fish west of Olcott and keep away from the traffic. Fill up on coho and hope for a couple kings.


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There was definitely a crowd out at the bar today.  Water was nearly glass.  I don't even want to imagine how crowded it will be tomorrow.  

2 hours ago, Dan P said:

Well, we put in a lot of hours today and just one small coho. Marked tons of bait and fish 40-60 FOW. Tried about everything, meat, FF, all kinds of spoons on riggers, dipseys and copper. Apparently we needed to go out deeper (100-140 FOW) away from the bait, per a guy we talked to on our way in. The theory being you need to be away from the bait, if your to close the fish have better options than lures. Feels a bit counterintuitive as I’ve always looked for bait / fish. Anyway he had the fish to prove it.  Going to give it another go this week as I have some time off work. Any thoughts would be appreciated.  

Yes, it really does sound counterintuitive.  I've spent a great many hours working those shallower zones with tons of bait and caught barely anything, while going out from 140 to 180 always works much better.  There's a bowl that goes from 40' down to 55' right on the US/Can boarder.  That is the only spot where I've caught lots of fish around lots of bait, but that was weeks ago.

I hope I didn't just jinx myself.

Thanks guys.

YEah, I did find a text message between me and the seller so I had his number.  We wrote up another bill of sale.  My local DMV

just recently reopened for in-person appointments, even if for only one day a week.  I have no doubt that they will 

be very helpful.  Amazing really, back in Long Island, NY... going to the DMV was like something out of a horror show.

So far, here in Niagara County they've been amazing helpful.  This board is also extremely helpful.  Thanks!

On 4/24/2021 at 7:53 PM, shawn393 said:

Braid works great until the fleas show up and stick to it so bad that you won't be able to reel it in

You just slap your rod on the water furiously to get the fleas off, right?  But yes, it gets pretty bad in the summer.

It is a 1989.

That's an interesting suggestion.  

I have to check the year.  It's right around that threshold, +/- a year or two.

Yeah, that's my point.  I do not have the title.

Hi, 

   I bought a 19' Sea Nymph 3 years ago and never got around to re-titling it or registering it under my name as 

the previous owner had just done so and said I might as well ride out the remainder of his registration.  Now that it's

time to get it done I can't find the documentation from the sale.  Does anyone know what is involved in proving ownership 

and registering/ re-titling a motor boat in NY?  I'm kicking myself for not having done this right away.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks.

I've been working the bar any day the wind allows and let me tell you... it's been slow.

I am giving it one more shot before I unfortunately have to pack it in for the season.

One guy caught a decent fish yesterday on flasher fly using lead core, if I'm not mistaken.

Hey, great report!  

   I have been launching out of Fort Niagara and often see what looks like a crazy amount of fish at around 120-140'

on the drop but never seem to get anything out of it.  It drives me nuts every time.  

Hey Waldo,

   Well I would certainly be tuning in.  I have a Sea Nymph too.  Love this boat.  What's the plan?

Adam

Hey Bill, 

   How did your repair go?  I just finished mine yesterday and am excited to take my boat out today.

I will be running it without the bilge pump, first to see if water still collects and second, if it does,

I will get under the boat to identify any leaky rivets I might have missed. 

  It was ridiculously simple to put the rivets in, I thought.  What I did notice was, now that I know what I'm looking at,

that the previous owner had replaced a bunch of the rivets with massive screws.  I suppose it made sense at the time

but with the proper size rivet and the G-flex epoxy I used I am pretty confident in the repair.

Have fun out there and thanks for your input!

Adam