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1 hour ago, Sk8man said:
If the frequency is adjustable set it to the lower frequency range for out deep
thanks Sk8man... yes, after this incident I've learned a lot about sonar trying to figure out what happened. With High CHIRP you don't get to adjust freq. Out on the lake I played around for hours trying to adjust the range, gain, etc. to no avail. It is pretty much set up to run in auto mode and I just ended up making things worse and ruining my fun by messing with it. So, I went ahead and replaced a non-working Airmar Thru-Hull transducer on my boat with a working one, so next time I'll at least have a backup plan. I've hooked it up to the Axiom MFD with a Y- adapter cable. With the Airmar, I'll be able to manually select 50 kHz for the deep.
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1 hour ago, Rookie Fisherman said:
Are you not picking up bottom or not marking deep fish?
I have the same Transducer. Only use 2D for trolling deep, no problem picking up bottom offshore or marking deep fish.
Has to be angle of the transducer or placement.
I do loose bottom when running at speed in deeper water but once I slow down it comes back in.
Good to know Rookie, appreciate it. It would be able to mark bottom but just wasn't marking anything. I've had screens of blank sorrow in my day, don't get me wrong, I know a fishfinder doesn't mark fish when there isn't fish, but it was just blank all day, no bait, nothing, and yet we caught a dozen fish. I'm thinking it was a placement problem. After my remount, it definitely seems to be working even better in Lake Erie as I'm able to mark fish at higher speeds, 20 MPH plus. Fingers crossed for Lake O.
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I’ve been using 30lb mono on my riggers... what are your thoughts? Is the stretch of mono good on rigger rods or do you think a tighter line with braid would lead to more hooked fish? I
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I have had the wire line snap twice now about 30 to 50 feet up from the dipsey. Have good terminal tackle swivel etc at the end that attaches to dipsey, same with the mono to boats and fly or spoon etc.
Its happened both times on big fish, long runs, no slack in the line etc. when retrieved I have those tight curls etc.
im wondering if the board is spinning faster than swivels can handle when the fish runs and it just kinks it, then bye bye.
anybody have this figured out
Malin 7 is the good stuff, maybe give it a try
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Does anybody have this unit? If so how is the 3D showing fish to each side of the boat. Would this be good for Ontario fishing or is this more for bass, any thoughts?
I have the Axiom 9 with RV-100 transducer. I got all excited for the fancy 3D stuff after seeing the videos but to be honest I haven’t used it much. The pictures on the traditional sonar screen are “high definition” with the high frequency CHIRP and tell me everything I need to know. Maybe someday I’ll mess around with the 3D when I get bored but wanted to learn traditional sonar first.
I found that my RV-100 did not work in deep water (over 300 ft) during my first trip to Lake Ontario a few weeks ago, even the traditional sonar. They say it’s rated to 900 feet but I’ve read a lot people having problems in the deep. I remounted my transducer (moved it down so that half of it was in the water). I’m hoping that’s the ticket but won’t be able to find out until my next trip. In Lake Erie I mainly fish below 100ft and it produces a beautiful screen.
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Something I learned this weekend it so check OFTEN the screw that holds the rigger to the base (with the black nob).Found out last week our was unscrewed halfway. Time for loctite.
Yes, loctite should be recommended in the manual. I almost lost my optimum... was barely holding on by a few threads.
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pro-troll 11” paddles with Twinkie meat rigs on riggers and 8 inch spin doctors with flies on wire rods is our preferred program
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good stuff, thank you sir!
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1 minute ago, Yankee Troller said:
I ask becasue if cable coils up on the side of the spool it will create loose loops. On the way down they create a quick free fall action. I've heard of balls snapping off due to this. To remedy use your cannonball hook/eyelet to guide the cable onto the center of the spool. I run 20lb weights in rough water with a 13' beam and have never just snapped off a weight for no reason outside of a free fall or a weak spot in the cable/braid. You shouldn't need snubbers.
That’s a very good point, I have noticed line building in the edge of the spool at times and seeing loops. So how do you use the hook as a guide, not following how they would work. It’s an open hook and the cable flows through/around it. Are you just saying a visual guide? Thanks!
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Gotcha, being a Lake Erie guy I’m not familiar with Copper but sounds like the same concept as lead core. Most people run copper off the big boards? I have them, just hate running them!
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I run the riggers on a 45 degree angle off the back corners of my boat. When rigging a line, I swivel the boom so its perpendicular (ish) to the boat. Having the 15lb shark out of the water in rough seas I think caused it to bounce slightly and it snapped. Perhaps there was a weakness in the line as well, who knows. Based on all the feedback, I'm going to keep weights in the water, utilize snubbers, and put my release above the snubber which will make it easier to reach
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2 hours ago, emtystringer said:
where is the best place to get sh thief snubbers and what is the length of thr snubber
The Boat Doctors tackle shop near the Olcott Bridge has them
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4 minutes ago, joe g said:
fish thief makes the best downrigger snubbers. strong, little blow back compared to other bulkier brands, and if put between the release and weight the ball stays in the water when auto stop engages. i use the on my planer boards too
Joe G -- to clarify, you run your release above the snubber and ball -- thereby keeping the ball in the water and making it easier to reach and set release to the line? Does not having release hooked directly to the ball effect the bite at all?
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7 minutes ago, Sk8man said:
You are exactly right about the clutch setting. A long time ago I actually saw that happen to a guy On Seneca during a derby. He had it set too tight and got hung up bad. It ripped a section out of his gunwale and the downrigger went in the drink in I think 70 ft of water. Luckily he had a diver camped in the site next to him who retrieved it for him but the biggest problem was the hole in the boat.
My god, can't imagine
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Much appreciated Joe -- I will pick up a couple. The ones fish hawk sells are too long IMO at 13"
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On 8/13/2020 at 4:13 PM, GAMBLER said:
2 riggers with spoons cheated, 2 divers with ff / fly or meat, 2 coppers with meat. Simple, Spread out and catches fish!
Can you explain your 2 coppers -- are those on dipseys? I've been doing a simple 4 rod set up -- wire dipsey with flasher/flies and downriggers with big paddles and twinkie rigs. Thought about adding a slider on the riggers to get a few more lines out but haven't had the guts yet. Curious how those coppers are running
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On 8/13/2020 at 6:22 AM, Erbyjoe said:
Good morning gentlemen,
I hate to ask dumb questions but here goes. I noticed that a lot of guys run paddles with meat rigs. Are there certain type that are run just for meat? I have dodgers that I used with squid back many years ago but don’t think they will help me out in this day and age(LOL) so my question is what are your favorite size paddles and brand name for running meat for staging Kings. I would like to try and find some for my up coming trip to Oswego. I appreciate any replies thanks.
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A-Tom-Mik Meat rigs w/ big 11" Pro-Troll Paddles is King Candy! Herring strips. Caught almost all my Kings last week on this combo out of Olcott in 520 FOW. The bright green color was hot
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14 hours ago, dry net said:
An Amish outfitter snubber may be long enough to keep the weight in the water when hooking it up. Use the retro ease as well. Bad things happen when the weight comes out of the water. Good luck!
For those who hook up downriggers with weights IN the water -- is your release hooked directly to your ball or is it above it to easier reach?
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15 hours ago, Sk8man said:
appreciate it, I'll check out the options. I know some say you don't want everything too strong so you don't rip the rigger off the boat in case the ball get hung up on the bottom, so it's always good to set the clutch so it will slip
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My gunwales are high, it’s tough and hard to reach but I’ll keep experimenting.
anyone ever beef up their downrigger line?
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I think the snubbers will mainly help in rough seas— it snapped when a wave flung the shark up and the line went a little slack and then big force when it came back down. I need to bring the weight about a foot out of the water to hook my release, hence why it’s susceptible to wave action. I’ve experimented with some other methods such as using retro ease and the Scotty releases hooked on the mainline above the ball, but settled on just bringing the ball out of the water a foot or so.
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My downrigger line snapped last week and I lost my fish hawk probe and 15lb shark. This was 5 minutes into my first ever trip to Lake Ontario with my boat after big investments: I upgraded my boat with Cannon Optimums TS, Fish Hawk X4D, Cisco rod holders etc for the mighty Kings and I was so excited... so that was a buzzkill to say the least. Shortly after this incident, I realized the sonar on my Raymarine Axiom w/ RV-100 transducer does not work in deep water (we were fishing in the 500s). So we were flying completely blind despite all my fancy technology! Luckily. I had an experienced mate on board who has been coming to Lake Ontario for many years so we still managed to catch quite a few Kings, Coho, and Steelhead.
I know now to always use a snubber, especially with the heavier weights, and especially in rough seas.
In addition to adding snubbers, I was thinking about adding stronger line to my Optimums than the 150lb test wire that comes with them.
Have any of you done this successfully? Cannon says it will throw the line counter off, but I don't really care about a few feet of depth accuracy to prevent losing another $400 in gear!
I was thinking about putting Malin 49 (7x7) strand on which would be 270lb test. Diameter would go from 0.033 with the Cannon line to 0.049 with the Malin.
What would you all recommend?
BTW, I've adjusted my transom mount transducer to hopefully work better in the 500 ft water (but I don't think it has the power) and also have replaced the old non-working thru-hull Airmar B60 transducer with a new one and will hook up to the Axiom with their $100 Y cable. Cha Ching. Cha Ching. The story of fishing on the Great Lakes!
Thanks in advance, this is my first post. Appreciate you all.
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Whaler -- what LB test mono and leader do you use?