Various rants from some cabin fever victims

[Captain Carl Bish]

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Edited February 14, 2013 by Captain Carl Bish

[bandrus1]

Best stick bait was

 

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and

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Edited February 12, 2013 by bandrus1

[Anonymous]

My best stick bait was a J9 Rapala in black and silver.

 

My best spoon was a NK 42 Second.

[DoubleG]

The striped Smithwick was our best stick also followed by the silver side black top orange bottom Smithwick.  Our best spoons were chartuse Alpena Diamond and MS Coyote.

 

Good luck!

 

GG

Edited February 12, 2013 by DoubleG

[DJ 17]

Firetiger thunderstick

 

chicken wing, and alewife stingers

 

black / gold  and rainbow bomber long A's

[wet the net]

djj717

 

How are you running the stingers? I assume off boards. Are you using in line weights? Split shots?

[DoubleG]

I usually run sticks off of the boards and the spoons off of down riggers. You can run spoons off of the boards but like you said you should run a split shot 3'-4' in front of the spoon.

[wet the net]

Thanks Double F

I don't have down riggers.  So I would have to add some weight to the spoons. Come on Spring...................I can only organize my gear so many times........cabin fever.

[Yankee Troller]

A split shot above a Stinger Stingray is deadly in Spring time. Alewife or Tuxedo patterns work well, but the Stinger SSW is hands down our best spoon for BT in the Spring. 

[DJ 17]

Net,

I was running the stingers off the riggers 5-8 ft down on leads of 50-75 feet or so. But like mentioned above a split shot a few feet ahead will work well off the boards. I also picked up a bunch of those spring kings on stingers that were around last year!

[Captain Carl Bish]

You may want to try running your rigger spoons (leads) as close as 6' (stern) and out to 40' (sides) this keeps them out of the way of board fish when netting,

[Xxx]

I really want to do some browns this spring,also doing some research on this blood run copper,seems that is the way to go,I personally never used it and that might be some of my problems, NEW to this type fishing, anyway, can you run short leads of copper in the spring? seems to me that it doesn't take much to get down 5-8ft with no other weights, for the walleyes I ran OFF SHORE snap weights and that worked good. I have all of the Precision Trolling books and the big water edition has alot about wire and lead core and all the different dipsy with the dive curve and it's a no wonder why you guys run the copper line.One other question does the blood run copper run deeper than the (just reads #30 wire) in the Precision Trolling book. It's nice that you guys say what works best for you, I fish the Henderson Harbor area, Black River basin, Chaumont bay area, are those lures a general rule of thumb or do certain baits work for say your area, Yankee Troller is out west if I'm correct and says (this) lure works for him, would that same lure,spoon,ect. work per say Oswago or Henderson area, I know that what works one don't the next, that being said (is it a, your area lure works here and not there situation) THANKS for any input, as maybe these questions are rediculous PAP

[bandrus1]

as much as we talk about what we like to use

 

a stick bait is a stick bait

 

a spoon is a spoon

[Yankee Troller]

You wont need more than a few colors of lead to chase BTs in the Spring. And that's if you go over 15' of water looking for them.

 

IMHO if you aren't fishing tourneys, chartering, or plan on taking fish home with you I wouldn't suggest Copper line to you. It's no fun fighting fish on it, and the longer lengths 400+ often kills smaller fish when they get hooked on it because they get dragged through he water for extended periods of time during the fight.

 

30lb wire and copper are two different animals. Go on a charter and have the captain explain all of this to you. Seeing it generally works better for me than reading it on the internet or in a magazine.

[Tim Bromund]

as much as we talk about what we like to use

 

a stick bait is a stick bait

 

a spoon is a spoon

Sorry, that's incorrect

Edited February 13, 2013 by Tim Bromund

[bandrus1]

Sorry, that's incorrect

 

 

you really mean to tell me that a spoon or a stick that works out west will not work in oswego?

 

come on now

[Tim Bromund]

you really mean to tell me that a spoon or a stick that works out west will not work in oswego?

 

come on now

very different water on one end of the lake to the other and colors and patterns absolutely DO make a difference..  It is very well established, for example, that flasher/fly combos that kick ass on the east end can't buy a fish out west and vice verse.

 

But seriously I thought you were saying that patterns and brands/styles have no relevence, which is preposterous.  For instance, there is a world of difference between where, when, how and under what conditions to run say, an orange/gold J7 Rapala, and a 4" silver/blue Smithwick.

 

Tim

Edited February 13, 2013 by Tim Bromund

[Xxx]

Thanks Yankee Troller, I've been successfull with the riggers, set a 5ft&8ft with 50 to 75 feet of line back,I used alewive, soduspoint orange chickenwing in the michigan stinger spoon with success, this year I added planer board setup for the big boards which I have but never used, this year we will, see what kind of knots I can get myself into, give it a wirrel see what happens, will try the stick bait methood also. One other thing!! where did Fat Nancy move to? They seem to have the scoop on everything!

[Captain Carl Bish]

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Edited February 14, 2013 by Captain Carl Bish

[Mortigan]

I'd think regional water clarity, light levels, bait type & size would cause differences between what works best at any given location, day and time. That said, I think personal experience is more valuable that knowing exactly what another fisherman prefers. Differences between boats and equipment will change how anything runs slightly.

[bandrus1]

very different water on one end of the lake to the other and colors and patterns absolutely DO make a difference..  It is very well established, for example, that flasher/fly combos that kick ass on the east end can't buy a fish out west and vice verse.

 

But seriously I thought you were saying that patterns and brands/styles have no relevence, which is preposterous.  For instance, there is a world of difference between where, when, how and under what conditions to run say, an orange/gold J7 Rapala, and a 4" silver/blue Smithwick.

 

Tim

 

 

Water condition is different than where on the lake

 

Dirty water and clear water have you must use presentation

 

What I am saying is that is a silver jointed rapala works on the west end then it works on the east end then it works on Cayuga

 

 

 

There is no rapalas on the west end Smithwicks on the east side type thing going on

[Tim Bromund]

Yeah, whatever

[bandrus1]

Yeah, whatever

 

 

We will ahve to meet up sometime and you will have to show me your oswego box, sodus box, and I bay box of sticks and spoons

 

im genuinely interested now

[fish-on]

Exactly what mortigan said, Buddy of mine has the same boat as mine, But 3ft shorter, We can do the same speed same lures and my boat out fishes his 8 to 1. Only difference is the motors and his boat is newer.

[fish-on]

 By the way, If any of you guys got thundersticks that don't work, I'll buy everyone of them.