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Another 20% CUT in Chinook Stocking for 2019

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1 minute ago, HB2 said:

Thanks Gator for your technical explanation of your view on the aclimatation of LO kings over the last 40 years . Kind of confirmed my suspicion . You sound like a brainiac. 

 

Volunteerism is low in all groups / organizations. 10% of the members usually do 90% of the work . And it's,usually me doing it . I can't sit around and watch . 

 

Money should be no problem at all . If everyone gives a little, it can total a lot . 

 

No domestic rainbows in upper Sandy? 

 I have lived in Holley for almost 60 years and you don't know what you're talking about . 

 

And I troll j plugs almost exclusively after labor day for many years . I do pretty well on them and have NEVER Snagged a salmon .

And yes ,there are guys pier heading and trolling staggers off Sandy . 

 

Also last year I launched my small boat 2 days after we released the fish at Sandy . 

There were a bunch of cormerants having breakfast on all the little ones you could see swimming around . I imagine the smallmouth bass were well fed also . 

 

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On 9/28/2018 at 9:51 AM, rolmops said:

20% sounds like a lot, but natural reproduction will probably be up this season, because the spawning salmon are well fed this year. The controlled stockings are less significant every year.


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Unless you fish the west end of the lake when our fish typically disappear in mid August as they head east.

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9 minutes ago, Tim Bromund said:

Unless you fish the west end of the lake when our fish typically disappear in mid August as they head east.

That is very true. We have much the same problem on the east end where we have to wait until the middle of June for the Salmon to show up in good numbers

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1 hour ago, rolmops said:

That is very true. We have much the same problem on the east end where we have to wait until the middle of June for the Salmon to show up in good numbers

True, but the difference is, your issue is based on water temp and is uncorrectable. Ours can be improved with modified stocking strategies.

 

Particularly since half of the lake's charter fleet, and recreational fleet spends their spring parked down here in Olcott and Wilson filling their boxes with salmon.  I don't blame them for that, gotta go where the fishing is good,  but the simple fact is, there are a ton of fish taken out of the system out of the west end every spring and early summer, so when the migratory fish start heading home in mid August, we typically have very few of our resident fish left to stage and run and our fishing essentially flatlines in late August, unless you want to run offshore and chase 2 year olds. I'm just thinking that a revised stocking strategy might be able to correct some of that. It wouldn't really affect the fall east end fishing all that much with all of the wild fish that slam into the Salmon River every fall.

 

Just my opinion.

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36 minutes ago, Tim Bromund said:

True, but the difference is, your issue is based on water temp and is uncorrectable. Ours can be improved with modified stocking strategies.

 

Particularly since half of the lake's charter fleet, and recreational fleet spends their spring parked down here in Olcott and Wilson filling their boxes with salmon.  I don't blame them for that, gotta go where the fishing is good,  but the simple fact is, there are a ton of fish taken out of the system out of the west end every spring and early summer, so when the migratory fish start heading home in mid August, we typically have very few of our resident fish left to stage and run and our fishing essentially flatlines in late August, unless you want to run offshore and chase 2 year olds. I'm just thinking that a revised stocking strategy might be able to correct some of that. It wouldn't really affect the fall east end fishing all that much with all of the wild fish that slam into the Salmon River every fall.

 

Just my opinion.

In one of the meetings with the DEC Steve Lapin(?spelling) mentioned that increased pen raised salmon has a dramatic effect for better survival and these salmon do tend to stay closer to their pen river. At the same time he said that increasing the number of pen raised fish , will lower the the other stocking numbers in order to keep a proper balance in the water. He also said that he does not mind giving more fish for the pens as long as he can lower the other regular stocking accordingly.

The regular stocked fish does not have a home river because they never were in a river when they smolted and chances are that they will go to the water where they were spawned, but they have no reason to return to or stay near their stocking river. On the other hand the pen raised fish does.

I think that you western guys  should ask for more pen raising stock and accept the resulting decrease of fish of regular stocking that will swim away anyway. Overall,you would be better of.

Did you ever think of putting pens in the Niagara river thereby creating a west end natural reproduction river not unlike the east end salmon river ?

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Late Summer,early fall fishing west end has not been the same since they quit raising kings at Caladonia . The fish head east because that's where the were born . 

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