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On 5/3/2020 at 6:57 AM, dpiazza22 said:

how do you like the 210? I have the 196 and it fits perfectly into my garage, I wonder how much difference the 1½ft is on the water....
what were you asking for yours?

It’s a much bigger boat. It dwarfs the 196. 


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that sounds like a nice boat! hope you guys make a deal, let's see pictures 

I hope so too, Mike. Almost identical to yours. Offer is on the table. A little more than I wanted to spend, and not a 4 stroke, but it sounds like he’s taken pretty good care of it and is willing to deliver, so we’ll see. What auto pilot are you running? Did you have it installed, or did it come on the boat?


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Hello,
I have a 2012 fishmaster 196 with 150 mer 2 stroke. 9.9 4 stroke kicker with helm and throttle control. I maybe looking to sell. 

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mine is a 115 etech l, I can get 33 on a glass lake.. I can troll with mine also, it's got a trolling feature, my only issue is I wish it was a 150 or 175 and the $50 a gallon etech oil 

I’ve heard it’s not good to troll with a 2 stroke. I’ve had lots of them over the years and fouling the plugs has always been an issue. I still run my 90 Yamaha and have to change out or clean the plugs after a few days of trolling. They do not like to go slow. Did they fix that with the BRP’s?


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Great!  Hope it works out.  

Thanks, man. Tell your buddy to get his s#^^ together and send me a quote for outfitting this boat[emoji12]


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Not against BRP even though there’s a lot of haters that have had problems with it. I don’t know enough about them to make a choice either way. I think every motor out there is gonna have some haters. I’ve fished with a guy who has a 4 stroke on a 196 and we’ve trolled for 8hrs+ with no kicker hogging up the transom and he fuels up twice a season. Plus, you can’t hear it which is nice after a bunch of beers the night before. I’m into this boat, but when you run the numbers and add the $3k in extra gear (tracks, rod holders, kicker, trolling motor) the number is $20,880. I offered $23k because ppl aren’t selling them. He wants $28k. If he gets realistic with the price, I’ll be a 2 stroke fan.


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And, that number is full retail, plus $3k for gear that he wouldn’t be able to sell for $3k on Craigslist/Facebook. And like I said, the boat is pretty dinged up and the trailer has maybe a few good years left before it needs to be blasted and powder coated or replaced.



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why are you so against the etech? 

Not against BRP even though there’s a lot of haters that have had problems with it. I don’t know enough about them to make a choice either way. I think every motor out there is gonna have some haters. I’ve fished with a guy who has a 4 stroke on a 196 and we’ve trolled for 8hrs+ with no kicker hogging up the transom and he fuels up twice a season. Plus, you can’t hear it which is nice after a bunch of beers the night before. I’m into this boat, but when you run the numbers and add the $3k in extra gear (tracks, rod holders, kicker, trolling motor) the number is $20,880. I offered $23k because ppl aren’t selling them. He wants $28k. If he gets realistic with the price, I’ll be a 2 stroke fan.


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that's almost my exact boat except mine is 2010 and came with autopilot,  I paid 30k for it a year and a half ago

That’s a fair deal. Auto pilot is a huge upgrade. Yours looks a lot nicer condition wise too. I’m looking for your boat @$30k but with a 4 stroke. It’s out there somewhere. Here fishy fishy


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https://www.ohiogamefishing.com/threads/starcraft-fishmaster-196-for-sale.364297/#post-2899503

Nice boat, but 2 stroke and about $7k over nada. I offered him $23k


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Here is an older one (2005) with a new 4-stroke Merc 115. Located in Sault Ste Marie, MI. A friend of mine owns the boat dealership. I’m not sure if it’s been sold yet.
 
https://www.rrmarinesupply.com/inventory/2005-starcraft-196-fishmaster-sault-ste-marie-mi-49783-10515619i
 
 
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Thanks, Laker. I’ve been talking to Jeff about this boat for a few weeks now. Still waiting to see if they’re able to upgrade the steering to hydro so I can install auto pilot.


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I wouldn't hold your breath. Those are hard to come by , and dont come up for sale very often. I tried what your doing. Nothing.
Good luck hope it works out

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Not holding my breath. I’ve been looking for 3 years. I’ll find one.


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There was a crestliner commander 2050 on here last week . I have the same boat and its awesome. I compared both the fish master and the commander 2 years ago . I think the commander is a better boat . No plastic on the boat at all . Everything is welded and you have more deck space because the windshield is pushed forward like a west coast boat . Just my opinion though

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I like those. Too bad I missed it.


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Looking for a newer used 196 with the 2 jump seats at the stern, preferably with a four stroke merc or Yamaha and hydraulic steering.

 

 

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Interested. I’m working in Edgemere Drive today. Any chance you could drop it off? I have cash in hand


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At the Buffalo boat show last week, a lot of boats for fishing, not the shiny gloss and chrome yachts, were welded aluminum. Tracker, the new guy in the area has all welded aluminum boats in the mix now. You have a lot of choices out there now.

I’ve heard nothing good about tracker boats. I love the idea of a welded boat, but I’ve heard that the metal they use is weak, the welds are garbage and it doesn’t drive straight. Not great for trolling.



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Which is a better boat for trolling on Lake Ontario?

 

 

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What a mess this has become?

I understand that this is a "follow the money" scenario but can someone please explain to me why the prior plan wasn't working?

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It was working fine for 60 years. What wasn’t working was the $50M/day profit that the shipping industry claimed it was losing. In the end, whenever the government is involved, money always wins. I think a good chunk of the southern shore will be completely lost this year. Good luck setting gear with house parts floating everywhere.


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