Matthew

Hi Chris, the Diawa's that we don't recommend are the older style with the wire guides for levelwind. The problem is the gap is so wide with that style levelwind that the line may be able to lay over itself. The newer ones should not be an issue so you don't have any worries. Enjoy fighting those big kings!

Watch for the wire overlapping or crossing over itself whereby the wire on the bottom of the overlap is coming off first. Typically this happens when the line comes off the reel too quickly and overlaps. This issue has been brought to our attention mostly with the Diawa reels and therefor we do not recommend them.

Hi Duane, As soon as we realized there was an issue with one of our batches of wire we sent emails to all of our retail stores and we put up a notice on our website. We told the stores to exchange the wire from this batch without question and below is a copy of our notice from our website. Notice The March of 2009 batch of wire was manufactured with 3% of the batch having fraying issues. This wire is on the 2 ¾" diameter spools. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused our customers and will immediately replace those wire spools affected. Customers who purchased their wire through a retailer, please see the retailer if you believe you have fraying issues. Customers who purchased online, please send us an email. Side note: We do not recommend our wire on any of the Diawa reels.

When we first made the wire we did not realize how different 7 strand and 19 strand would be. We knew 19 strand was smoother, more flexible and less likely to kink but we did not know there would be a whole new learning curve on how to spool the wire. As mentioned by a message board member "in the future you will instruct your dealers and customers on how to properly install the wire onto reels." There has never been a more precise statement. In the future we will be putting instructions on how to spool the wire and we will be letting our dealers know. For anyone that has experienced broken strands (aside from the one manufacturing run as stated on our website two months ago http://www.torpedodivers.com) installing instruction has been the critical point. I will attempt to explain what happens with wire in two spooling processes. When wire comes off a larger spool and onto a smaller spool, stress builds up in the line, if fingers are used to apply tension to get the wire to spool tighter onto the reel then the stress increases in relationship to the finger pressure applied, as the fingers tension is forcing the strands upward into the line. If enough finger tension is applied, as the stress builds in the line, a stand could pop loose from the group of stranded wire and eventually this strand will become a broken strand. If the line is used without relieving the build up stress then many other issues will occur such as, line digging into itself, twists happening in the line when setting lines, broken strands etc. It is important to note that 99% of the cause of broken strands occurs due to pent up stress in the line from the initial spooling process. The other 1% would be due to either exerting too much force on the line beyond the lines breaking strength or using equipment that causes excess friction on the line. The solution. When spooling from the larger spool onto a smaller spool have someone keep slight tension on the larger spool. Guiding the wire with one finger is a good idea to get a even spool but do not use two fingers as our natural reaction is to squeeze the wire. One finger guiding is good, two finger squeezing is bad. When spooling is complete then add a ball bearing snap swivel to the end and attach a weight on the end of the snap and go onto the lake and let all of the wire line out and then reel it back in, as Message Board Members have mentioned. This will remove all stress from the wire. You are now ready to fish. If you have any questions send an email to [email protected] Thanks, Matthew

Hi Carl, When we first made the wire we did not realize how different from 7 strand 19 strand would be. We knew it was smoother and more flexible and less likely to kink but we did not know there would be a whole new learning curve on how to spool the wire. As you mentioned "in the future you will instruct your dealers and customers on how to properly install the wire onto reels." There has never been a more precise statement. In the future we will be putting instructions on how to spool the wire and we will be letting our dealers know. For anyone that has broken strands this has been the critical point. I will attempt to explain what happens with wire in the spooling process as my final comment. When wire comes off a larger spool and onto a smaller spool, stress builds up in the line, if fingers are used to apply tension to get the wire to spool tighter onto the reel then the stress increases in relationship to the finger pressure applied as the fingers tension is forcing the strands upward into the line. If enough finger tension is applied, as the stress builds in the line, a stand could pop loose from the group of stranded wire and eventually this strand will become a broken strand. If the line is used without relieving the build up stress then many other issues will occur such as, line digging into itself, twists happening in the line when setting lines, broken strands etc. It is important to note that 99% of the cause of broken strands occurs due to pent up stress in the line from the initial spooling process. The other 1% would be due to either exerting too much force on the line beyond the lines breaking strength or using equipment that causes excess friction on the line. The solution. When spooling from the larger spool onto a smaller spool have someone keep slight tension on the larger spool. Guiding the wire with one finger is a good idea to get a even spool but do not use two fingers as our natural reaction is to squeeze the wire. When spooling is complete then add a ball bearing snap swivel to the end and attach a weight on the end of the snap as Carl mentioned. This will remove all stress from the wire. You are now ready to fish.

Carl, You may want to talk to Randy from Reddog Charters or Ken from Off The Hook Charters in Rochester or even George from Goodtimes Sportfishing in Port Ontario. All have been running the wire for over one year without issues. If you wish I could give you a list of names that would fill this board of Captains that have been successfully running the 19 strand wire. Call me anytime Carl it would be nice to talk to you for the first time, I field all calls for the Torpedo Products. 585-703-5247 Like anything this wire when handled properly is very effective and very enjoyable. My apologies Carl if I hit a nerve when posting on how to handle the wire, call and I'm sure we can work out your wire issues. Matthew

wow.....this stuff sounds like nitroglycerin LOL it's like everything I guess. I used to get frustrated with paint coming off my lures but now I spray them with krylon and now no more issues, that was another thing that caused me to pull my hair out, err nitroglycerin.

Check your guides before putting on the 19 strand wire. If you have a grove in your reel guide caused by other wire that is not as smooth as 19 strand, then change your reel guide or your guide will cause the wire to fray, same with line guides. When you are putting the wire onto your reel do not use your fingers to add pressure to get the wire on tighter or you will screw up your wire, apply pressure from the spool the wire is coming off, then go out on the lake and let all the wire out with a snap swivel and 2 oz weight on the end of the snap then reel the line back in. If you are using a twilli tip then make sure the thick wire from the twilli tip is not rubbing against the 19 strand wire. Put a 20 foot piece of 30 or 50lb mono between the wire and dipsy diver with an albright knot, a good idea the folks in Michigan are doing. The guys in Canada have been using this wire for over a year with slide divers without any issues. If you treat the wire right it will be your friend but abuse it and you will pull your hair out.

Try this http://www.torpedodivers.com/trolling.asp#downrigger