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    Kings oh kings where are you.

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    They are in the 50% of the lake, THAT NO ONE FISHES MUCH. Up here on Lake Ontario we have become spoiled, in the fact that we can usually catch all we want within a few miles of shore. From 10 miles off shore and beyond, out of any port on either side, not many people spend too much time fishing. This leaves around 3500 square miles of lake, that only has a few hours of fishing time per week in it! Those of us that do fish out there, might not have the time or any reason to make reports to all the other fishermen WHO WON'T SPEND THE GAS TO GO THERE AND LOOK ON THEIR OWN! 

     

    I am not happy about having to spend an additional $100- $150 per trip to run my charters out so far.....My bottomline is taking a hit for sure.  But I sure am grateful that I don't run a business on the Atlantic, where the Captains would love to only have to run 20 miles every day! 

     

    I am not catching limits of 25 lb. kings on every trip out there....in fact, I haven't boated an honest 20 lber all year , yet...18's and 19's, yes....12-15's, a plenty...no 20 pluses for the Waterwolf though...

     

    Good thing for the 10-12 steelhead and coho we get on every day out there, they are saving our sss looking for the motherlode of mature kings. 

     

    The wind changing every day all season isn't helping us much, what we find today, is gone tomorrow.... every day out of the gate is a brand new search.....

     

    Lots of square miles out there without a boat in it.....you can't really call a friend, when all of them are staying together in no king zone, crying the blues about "where are the kings", as they beat up lake trout and browns in skinny water.....

     

    That's ok though, we have already booked two new customers who were upset that they booked a SALMON charter, and went lake trout fishing, they would rather get skunked fishing for what they want, than hear excuses from their Captain about why he isn't going where they are.... 

     

    Great... Now every Lake Ontario boat will be out in 600 -700 FOW this weekend clogging up my fishing areas :)

     

    Just kidding!!! Out deep was great for us last weekend.

    LOC Salmon

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    I think you guys are shooting for the stars to see a king that big this summer. There has not been anything to come close to 30 lbs on the lake yet this spring. The fall loc, maybe mid 30's this year, but with the winter we had, the fish were not packing on the pounds like they have the last 2 years. I hope I am wrong, but have not seen or heard anything yet to see any different. Good Luck out there and enjoy what Lady O is giving us this year, fish in the top 50' of water in mid June...... Unheard of!!!!

    Capt Rich

    Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

     

    I kind of agree. Last Years Spring Derby weight averaged 5 lbs heavier than this years Spring Derby. I don't know if a 23 lb King will hold up but I would not be shocked if a 26 or 27 lb King makes the top 20 this Summer derby.Look at last year's weights vs this year's and it is pretty shocking. I'll weigh every King over 25 just in case :)

    Going Rate for an Observer

    in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars

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    I'm sorry Wayne, but to be strait up I think this comment is ridiculous !  Some of the best fishermen on this lake are running smaller boats due to gas savings. Thrillseeker now uses a 25  I think for tournies - so he should pay more for an observer than you by your standards? 

     

    Rod,

     

    I'm just talking from a comfort standpoint. It is much harder "work" to observe on a small boat when there isn't a lot of room and isn't a nice enclosed head (Especially for female observers). I agree size of the boat might not have any correlation to how well the team will do but I'm guessing if a person is open minded enough they will learn something on every boat they fish on. 

     

    P.S. I've been known to say a lot of ridiculous things :)

    Tournament Results, and a HUGE Thank you to the Participants and Sponsors

    in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars

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    I liked not having the big fish. More money in the pot for the teams that excelled on tourney day. Anyone can get lucky and catch a big fish.

     

    Yes but if you have a tough first day and a slow start the second day, A big fish prize gives the team hope that there still may be a possibility of winning something. It kind of sucks at about 9 am on the 2nd day when you know you have no shot at winning anything yet you still have to grind it out for 5 more hours. 

     

    Having that chance to cash on biggest fish still gives you some hope and reason to be out there grinding away.

    Congrats to Yankee Troller

    in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars

    Posted · Edited by stoutner

    I didn't realize the fishing was that tough. We had no issues getting our bites, and we figured with all the great fishermen out there that they were getting bit too. We were shocked after hitting the scales.

     

    Funny thing is - I feel that I am a pretty good Salmon fisherman but not as good catching Trout. We were able to fire up our trout program and box those 5 fish within and hour or hour and a half both days. Couldn't get ANY Salmon when we switch backed to our Salmon program. I was feeling pretty down on Sunday but when I saw some VERY good Captains struggle also I felt a little bit better about our program. 

     

    As always, learned a little bit more and will put the knowledge to use the next time. Had a great time this past weekend. Heading to the Oak to rescue my boat in a couple of hours.

     

    Very interesting and very fun tournament.  

     

    Congrats Rick and all of those teams that finished high up in the standings..

    Going Rate for an Observer

    in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars

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    If I had to do it on a 24' or smaller boat I would charge $150. 25'-29' boat it would be $100 and 30' plus would be $75. My reasoning is that you can have a pretty comfortable day on a larger boat and are more likely to be observing and learning from a pro team. If you are coming from out of town it will cost you at least $100 a day for car/truck fuel and/or lodging so it's not really a good way to actually make money. If you can get your costs covered and get to ride on a larger more comfortable boat with a pro team it is well worth it to be an observer. Last year (or the year before) in the Oswego Pro Am my observer got to observe Top Gun and Son of a Gun. Pretty nice days for him and he enjoyed it immensely. 

    Apple Boy 5/31/14 Sodus

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted · Edited by stoutner

    awesome.  What depths were you fishing? 80-120 fow or deeper?  afternoon bite has not been as good as what I keep hearing about in the morning, but I will be out Sunday around 5am, so I want to set up in the areas you and Wayne have been working.  I have a couple of newbies I want to show a good time for!

     

    Jason,

     

    130-160 was best for us and we were getting them toplining spoons all the way down to 120 deep riggers. 240 wire, 180 wire etc. I actually did better running spindoctors deep than spoons up high although both took plenty of shots. If you can't get them to go, run out a little deeper and fish just inside the temp break. Lots of steelies out there feeding high in the water. We did that Saturday and whacked 4 or 5 steelies in about 30 minutes. We headed back in shallower to catch more Kings. 

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