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I came up last yr for first time, and you guys have been helpfull getting me ready... prior to going last yr, had a few guys who had been up there yrs ago and they swore by J plugs....so of course I go buy a bunch.........catch diddly squat on them............... I'm going to get some flies when I go up next weekend, spin doctors, run my spoons, etc.... Do you guys even use these anymore? Thanks

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Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I couldn't find any links here....can you provide a link to each of these? thanks

Heading to Olcot in a few weeks to try and catch some salmon and steelheads/trout........... -fish Erie for 'eyes and steelheads pretty hard, wanted to get something bigger, thus the trip up here weekend of 8/20 Came up last fall in late Sept and by then the salmon bite was done (so I was told) as they were staging up outside the harbor and only hitting things that made them mad (again, so I was told).....we caught no salmon, but seen them jumping all over the place....only actually saw 1 maybe 2 caught in 2 days............. but on last day, went out to 400' and had a good time catching steelhead......we were using dipsy and downriggers with spoons -so the questions.....I am used to using spoons/riggers/dipsy......what else do I need to use without going broke.........how do I set it up???? somebody gave me a few flashers, said use them, but I don't know how to rig them or run them, do you run them like dipsys or what? Your help is much appreciated