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Windmills are not out. We have confirmed that with New York State. If the marine sanctuary were approved NOAA would provide information regarding the underwater resources within the proposed area for windmills.

NOAA is proposing to designate the Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary (LONMS) in eastern Lake Ontario to recognize the national significance of the area's historical, archaeological, and cultural resources and to manage this special place as part of the National Marine Sanctuary System. On January 19, 2023, NOAA filed a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on the Federal Register. Federal Register :: Proposed Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary; Notice of Proposed Rulemaking NOAA in its Proposed Rules is looking to add layers of prohibitions and permits that would supplement existing section 233 of the New York State Education Law. This NYS law currently protects any object of archaeological, historical, cultural, social, scientific, or paleontological interest situated on, in, or under lands owned by the state of New York. In the Proposed Rules NOAA looked at the impact on the for-hire fishing businesses that operate in or on Eastern Lake Ontario. They stated, “it is assumed that this proposed rule would affect a substantial number of small entities." The Proposed Rules would also apply to fishing, boating, diving, research, and education. Everyone should participate in the process by familiarizing themselves with the plan and expressing their views on it during the comment period and at the local meetings. We do not need more regulations, there are too many now. Public meetings: · Oswego, NY, Feb. 28 Lake Ontario Event and Conference Center: 6:30 p.m.-8 p.m. · Wolcott, NY, March 1, Wolcott Elks Lodge No. 1763; 630 p.m.-8 p.m. · Watertown, NY, Date: March 2, 2023, Jefferson Community College; 630 p.m.-8 p.m

Tall Tails unfortunately the information you have been told regarding the sanctuary preventing off-shore windmills is not correct. I am a member of the sanctuary Advisory Committee and have been in direct contact with New York State officials that would be involved in off-shore windmills. They have stated that the sanctuary would not prevent future off-shore windmills from being constructed. The point of this post is not about windmills but the fact that NOAA does not want to be upfront with the public with their proposed regulations at the time they announce the plans for the Lake Ontario marine sanctuary and then submit them only after all public comments are closed in September. What sanctuary regulations is NOAA attempting to hide and from public comment?

The marine sanctuary designation would not prevent the development of off-shore windmills. The Public Service Commission is in charge of decisions concerning windmills. The New York State Office of Parks Recreation and Historic Preservation would also be involved. This situation has been previously fact checked with NYS. The point of this post is that NOAA does not intend to provide the public with their proposed regulations at the time they announce the plans for the Lake Ontario marine sanctuary and then only after public comments have been closed. That is not right so what regulations does NOAA want to hide from the public?

Within a few weeks NOAA will post on the National Register their proposed plan for the Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary which covers a portion of eastern Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence River. We understand that NOAA will only post their regulations for the proposed sanctuary after the public comments have been closed in early September. If the new proposed regulations for the Lake Ontario marine sanctuary are similar to those posted for the proposed Wisconsin marine sanctuary* then they will create the following: 1) Restrictions on fishing in areas near shipwreck and shipwreck wreckage sites 2) Restrictions and possible permit requirements for tethered devices which could include underwater drones, towed surveying equipment, fish cams etc. 3) Anchoring restrictions near shipwreck wreckage sites 4) Other restrictions still unknown to the public By not publishing regulations with the proposed Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary plan, NOAA is preventing the public from reviewing and possibly objecting or commenting on them during the public meetings to be held in mid-August. What is NOAA trying to hide from the public? Please let’s hear your comments – we will pass them along to NOAA. Or you can inform NOAA ([email protected]) directly how you feel about this decision to post regulations only after the time for public comments on the Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary plan is closed. *Reference: Section 5.4.1: Proposed Wisconsin - Lake Michigan National Marine Sanctuary Draft Environmental Impact Statement and Draft Management Plan (windows.net)

Hey Chris, Thanks We have not seen any salmon at those depths. If anyone has seen a curious bump on their depth finder or has hung up on something in the lake I would appreciate hearing about it. Please email me: [email protected] All info will be kept confidential. Jim

The British steamship Nisbet Grammer, the largest steel steamer to have foundered in Lake Ontario has been discovered by a team of shipwreck explorers thirty miles east of Niagara, NY in a depth of over 500 feet of water. The Nisbet Grammer was enroute from Port Colburne to Montreal with a load of grain when she was struck by the steamship Dalwarnic in a dense fog. Read the full story with pictures and video: www.shipwreckworld.com

We saw a Steelhead swimming around the wreck. Estimated to be around 30 inches. No hangs seen on the dagger-board schooner wreck. There are no plans to raise the ship.

Our shipwreck search team has recently discovered a rare dagger-board schooner in Lake Ontario. Read the story and view the pics and video on the Shipwreckworld website. See: Early 1800's Dagger-board Schooner Discovered in Lake Ontario NOTE: We are always interested in hearing from anyone that has hung their gear up on something or has observed a curious bump off the bottom. Please contact me directly with information at: [email protected] All communications will be kept confidential.

Great Lake Lure Maker: I am also finding it hard to believe that the temperature would be nearly 49 degrees. My experience as a diver is that over +100 ft depth in the early part of the season it is closer to 39 to 40 degrees. The ROV has had problems with the depth and temperature sensor over the past few weeks. It was just sent back for repair and calibration. Jim

The houseboat is over +300 fow . Looking forward to getting more details for a story for Shipwreckworld.com. Will show the video . This houseboat wreck is a mess waiting to catch fish lines, anchors, and remote operated vehicles (never to return !!)

Thank you. Yes this must be the Chug -A-Lug. It is in over 300 ft of water. Perhaps they printed something about the loss in the Pall Times. When I have more information I will put the story and video up on www.shipwreckworld.com. Thank you to Tall Tails (Capt Brian) and Rustyrat for your fast reply. Jim

Recently we located a sunken houseboat or party boat north of Oswego with the name Chug-A-Lug. We are interested in learning the details of the loss of this boat. Video of the sunken boat will be put up on the Shipwreckworld website in the near future. We would appreciate receiving any information on the Chug-A-Lug . Please send email to: [email protected] Chug-A-Lug - stern