thanks everyone for the replies, just came back from t.o last night fished for five days at bluffers and pickering. Good lures at tightline , started off fishing too deep the first few days before realizing the kings were closer to shore.It's difficult after a 12 year absence from fishing kings but surprised the old lures were still good. Biggest was 27lb. Enjoyed our trip,might go back next week if they are still biting .