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We had a Coho boom 5-6 years ago. The whole lake enjoyed it. Again, the DEC hasn't changed stocking numbers for decades on these. If anything, they fail to reach target numbers due to poor eye up in the hatchery.
From the data we have the tribs on the North shore and the Salmon River are our best tribs to support natural reproduction. After a 9yr tagging study we settled on 50% of the Kings caught are naturals. If we stock 1,000,000 Kings another 1,000,000 are naturally reproduced. Of those 1,000,000 naturals 500,000 come from north shore tribs. Of the other 500,000 naturals 250,000 come from the Salmon River.
I hear what your saying. And a robust Coho spawn is great. But I don't remember it being this disproportionate to the number of Kings. If the Kings are still out there it should be as good if not better than last year with some really big fish. Tight lines.
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Is it just me or is everybody catching these unusual amounts of Coho salmon?
In a week out of Olcott we only got one king, not a very big one at that, but cohos and atlantics are all over the place.
What is different this year? Did somebody accidently stock cohos instead of kings , or did a coho stocking have an absolutely terrific survival rate? And never mind the amount of atlantics. We never got that many in one week.
What''s going on?
If it is natural coho reproduction then what tribes are contributing. And why has it never happened before. And why would the coho's be so successful and, at least it appears, not the kings. They both spawn at the same time with both needing the dame conditions. And your observation of a lot of coho's and few Kings makes sense to me. If the Kings never show up this year then your hypothesis might have to be seriously considered.
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I bought 4 wire rod/reel setups from a guy on fbook, so I am going to run 4 wire dipseys my first time out. If the fleas are bad, what do you use for the dipsey to lure leader?
It is fairly easy to remove fleas from wire. One method is to slap the wire off the surface, that should get most of them, and the ones that ball up can be removed by grasping them and sawing through them with the wire. Last week on Ontario we hit a couple bad spots but thankfully not everywhere. By the way you never encounter fleas on Erie? I have many times.
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Right now the offshore bite is best with mostly steelhead. And your right, the Kings are stacked up on the east half of the lake.
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You are correct. The previous leader managed to kill a century worth of good will.
Canadian's don't look at the Americans as partners or friends any longer.
I'm not sure how many decades it will take to fix that (or if it ever will be fixed).
45 had nothing and I mean absolutely nothing to do with the border being closed. It's because of C19 and a Global elitist named Trudeau who is punishing the entire outdoor industry in CA. You must be totally ignorant concerning politics. Study up and grow up.
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Struggling again. It's not been a good year for me. Started out in 200 FOW, Trolled North. My two guests got sick immediately, so I had to take back in at 0730. First time on a boat. They should have taken the dramamine the night before. I caught one nice Coho on a 200 copper on a FF with 42nd SD in about 180 FOW just before I took them back to ramp. Went back out after dropping the sick ones at the dock. Went to about 200 FOW, nothing. Went to 305 FOW, nothing. Then it got rough. They missed the forecast.
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I fish out of Wilson but it should be pretty close to the same out of Olcott. Head out to 70fow and start trolling. I have started with a West troll which is down current running mostly green spoons at 2.5 GPS speed, adjusting speed according to the bend in the diver poles and the angle of the downrigger cables. Troll in a zigzag pattern between 80fof and 125fow looking for bait and fish marks. They pretty much always there. My typical program is two riggers with free sliders and four DD set on 1.5 and 3.0. I set them back to fish over and under the temp break. You should see fish, bait and fleas that look like they're plastered against it. You will see big marks on the bottom which I figure are big Lakers or big Kings so I will drop a meat rig down there. Has worked sometimes but not always for me. If those fish are uncooperative I troll out to 200fow to 230fow. You may catch a ghost fish on your way and if you do mark the spot and work it a bit. The fish may only bite if you troll in the same direction. And the same goes if your getting marks and no bites change direction and go back through. This is just fishing 101 but it has worked well for us. The last day I fished was this past Thursday and we went 9/13 mostly teenage Kings a nice cohos and three very nice steelhead. Lost some screamers. Tight lines friend.
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Nice report, only pattern I found was when I was near 350 FOW the fish were biting. Was out for a few hours west of Wilson Sunday afternoon, did not mark any bait. 1, king, 1 coho and 2 nice steelhead, lost 3. Copper seemed to be the biggest producer. All spoons, orange crush, purple DW (dont recall name) and NBK. Speed at ball around 2.1, temp varied in the low 40's at 70 ft down, spread between 30 and 70 ft down.
For us the mid day bite was best. Thought Saturday chop helped but as you know it was slick calm Sunday and it didn't bother the fish. By the way I troll as close to 2.5 as possible and watch my rigger cables as I don't have a fish hawk. We tried 7c and 10c LC on inline boards since the riggers went firing but only caught one coho on the ten. Thanks For the info!
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Was fishing Wilson Sat and Sun also. Had very good fishing both days. Found the 48° water to cold for our liking although there was lots of bait and some big marks in 80'. So we trolled out and found 52° in about 230'. Soon had our first hookup and even though we didn't mark any fish or bait repeated north troll over the same mark resulted in a bite on almost pass. South troll did not work. Landed five Kings up to 18# and lost several more. Also landed eight steelhead with a few being biguns and all trout were released. Also four very nice cohos. About 25 bites over both days. All were caught in 230fow both days in the same spot on mostly green spoons DWSS, Stinger. With the biggest Kings coming on meat rigs about 55' down. Mostly a wire diver bite as the riggers slept until Sunday, that's when the steelhead started pouncing on the one we left out down 75'. Hoping to be back this weekend. Great weather and good fishing and friendship. I am blessed.
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Re Canadians , Americans and the Niagara Bar
For KevinFarrell and Wargofam
I am a Canadian. I like Americans! But I am not a Trudeau fan. I feel that our country was let down by the present government. We were warned that covid was coming and did not do very much until the scourge struck. Another case of management by crisis, too late and too little. We should be selling licences and cooperating any way we can with our (best!) American friends. Please accept my apology for any difficulties encountered. Some day I would like to join you all at the Niagara Bar.
I believe the Barr extends over into Canada.
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It's not about money. It's about power.
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Fished Thursday and Friday. Had good king bites but only a couple cohos. Lost way too many quality kings. Fished 80' to 100 fow. Plenty of marks a quite a few lookers. Boxed three Kings and a coho each day along with the several losses so in spite of the boat traffic you can get bit. The bite from daylight to 0800 was very good. Tight lines
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Not to butt in but I just fished our of Walnut yesterday and today for my first Erie trips of the year after fishing Lake Ontario for the last several weeks. Had to work for work for them in yesterdays big chop but we did get a three man limit. Today the lake started of much nicer but ended worse. The fishing was slow for us at the start but the NE wind kicked up around lunch and it got real rough but the fish turned on and it was another good day. If you fish there you may have to grind it out until they turn on. Some guys struggled to catch a fish. Lot of fish from little to large. Our biggest was 28" (1) and the smallest were several in the 7in. range .
On 8/1/2020 at 2:00 AM, garrymny said:
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LOL who do you think is going to enforce such stupidity
On 7/16/2020 at 4:18 PM, chinook35 said:
Lmao. Bring your check book and expect to be quarantined if you come here from a mandated state.
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Yes east of the bar same depth. 1/4 grown up Kings. One dandy steelhead and another nice one. Three nice coho several skipys and a few mystery bites. Been fishing the same marks since the week after Memorial Day.
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On 6/10/2020 at 2:21 PM, donturnings@gmail.com said:Coming up from Cleveland on 6/27 - 6/28. Any information out on Niagara Bar ??
Also anyone know the status of Ft. Niagara launch ramps ??
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I'll take them if they're still available.
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Not sure how Lake Michigan's biology is doing right now, but the lake produced some big fish last year including a couple 40# beasts.
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I would contact the boat manufacturer.
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Bunks, rollers are a problem putting in and I think there's a bit of a saftey issue when hauling. I have a 19ft. Ebtide with rollers and a 25ft Wellcraft with bunks. I prefer the bunks. I wanted to add that when loading with rollers and by yourself it may require you to keep the motor engaged or the boat will roll back off the trailer.
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The Second Amendment was not designed to have a gun to hunt or target shoot with. It's there to help p
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I think it's a cultural thing as your are drifting further away from the good things in life. Broken homes and electronic gadgets have taken their toll. We can only hope there's a turnaround.
So many Cohos
in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Thanks Richard, always appreciate your candor and knowledge. I've delayed coming up this year do to the conditions, but will be up next week Lord willing and hope those Kings are ready, fat and furious. I see a 28# won the Spring derby in St. Catherine's. Thanks