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  1. "What ever happened to C&R?"

    Probably the same thing that happened to respect towards others. Let me guess, you wish people weren't allowed to own guns, shoot bambi, or eat veal?

    If you wish to C&R, great. If every day you wish to keep every fish you catch over 18"/21"(steelie) until you limit, great. That's YOUR choice, but leave my choice alone.

    Go fall in the lake.

    Nick

  2. No fleas yet, but cotton type stuff. Not sure exactly what it was, but seemed to be some sort of those seeds that float off trees all mushed togeter to form an almost cotton substance. It was nerely impossible to rip off the line and had to be unwrapped. Only good thing was it didn't slide down your line to your lure while trolling and when you reel in it would slide down the line no problem. So not too bad of a nuisance.

    Nick

  3. Man I looked at a map when I got back, we weren't even half way across! It REALLY makes you realize how big Lake O is when you're out that deep.

    The marks we saw were all over the place. We were marking pretty steady marks at 50fow over 160fow. At 180fow we marked a bunch of fish at the 100' point. They could have been lakers, but they would have been BIG lakers. My guess was kings.... but like the browns they didn't seem to be ready to feed either. One of the guys fishing a few miles west of us did manage one nice king out there Sunday 50' down over 120fow.

    It's still slow, but I think 4th of july weekend is usually the date for the kings to start banging and I think this year will show the same.

    Al, that steelie you guys got on the board was real pretty... looked almost like a domestic rainbow.

    Nick

  4. Saturday...

    After some discussion of temps possibly setting up deep, we ran deep.... then ran some more... then some more. Temps went from about 60 to 54 at the 23bar, then down to 48 with thick fog at the 25bar. The fog continued out to about the 32bar. We finally got back up to 55degrees at 35 bar and began fishing. We fished all the way to the canadian border and then all the way back into 100fow. A BIG OLD WASTE OF GAS. I tried to get ahold of fishstix and everyone else wondering how the fishing was out there, but we had zero radio reception out there and no cell phone signal (kinda a scary situation, but the lake was absolutely flat and we have two motors). We did manage 5 steelies and one small king out deep though. Nothing with much size. We never marked a thing until 350fow where we marked bait, then again at 300fow and finally at 250fow we marked a fish, which hit (one of the steelies). Then finally at 110fow a dipsey started screaming out 250 #2 setting green protroll green fly. Landed an 18lb king. Drove alllll the way out deep, only to hit a king back in 110fow... It was devastating to say the least. We ended the day and headed back in.

    Sunday....

    Decided to go for browns after hearing fishshack's great saturday. Have I mentioned how much I hate fishing for browns? We don't have any light rods, so it's not nearly as much fun as pulling in a salmon. I'm also not very good at brown fishing, so take this report with a grain of salt. We ran west towards pultneyville and trolled east. It was too rough for us to troll west (we don't like pounding against the waves, just not fun). We managed a nice 8lb brown down 40 on a emerald shiner (thanks for the tip fishshack) stinger size. We then landed 4 or 5 more kings all under 5lbs. Most of them we didn't even know were on the lines until we pulled them to check. Not a great morning.

    I may take next weekend off to work on finishing my basement. But the kings were there on Sunday as well... lots of big marks in the 160-180fow range... just couldn't get them to go.

    Nick

  5. Stix,

    I've always had my BEST days when the lake sets up like it is now. Run over the warm water in tight, to the cold water, keep going until you hit warm water again. Only thing is, sometimes you gotta go 10miles. I won't do it if it's rough out. If it's smooth out tonight/this weekend... I'll be out there. Personally, I'd rather spend all day fishing and catching one king, than catching 5 browns. (unless I happened to catch a 14lber ;) )

    Nick

  6. wow didn't take long ... I thought you'd be up there for a while. Only thing is now... if I caught a 15lb brown to take the lead I'd be torn.... I'd want to mount the fish instead of keeping it in the freezer for 2 months.... but then I'd lose the $$....

    Nick

  7. NICK if closed communication was droped because it could not be inforced with a observer how is a six fish limit going to be with no observer? DEL

    Uh... well you bring six fish into the weigh-in. If you bring seven... pretty sure people there can count :P Not sure I understand your point? If you mean what if people put six fish on board and then keep fishing, catch 3 more and use some of those towards their "pot".... I think that's fine if they have 3 people on board. You're still only bringing your top 6 fish in and you still haven't broken the law. That or say you need to stop at 6 fish and it's by the honor system. It's never perfect... same thing could be said about a 9 fish limit.

    For me, it's just very difficult to find an observer usually, not to mention... on my smaller boat... they'd almost definitely get in the way :)

    Nick

  8. You're all nuts :P

    1) Lose the bonus laker

    2) Keep the 6 fish limit

    3) Lose the need for the observer - not really a need if you can release fish

    4) Allow two man teams, with no observer (can't do this if you up the limit of fish past 6, hence why I want it kept at 6)

    5) Lose the can/us boundary issue

    6) Open communication

    Nick

  9. all great info guys!

    Those days I tried speeding up, slowing down, changing lures, changing setbacks (although I never went shorter than 15'.. might need to try). I didn't try popping the rod as normally I'm a lazy fisherman :) A few great ideas here though that I'll have to try in the coming months!

    Nick

  10. Here is the same chart as I made last year, but updated with this year's numbers.. it was pretty close with the exception of the grand prize fish, which was over what I predicted.

    loc2007.jpg

    So sticking with that thought of the grand prize being a freak that is much bigger than the rest... I'm going to say that a 35lb 02oz fish is needed this year.

    Nick

  11. no no, you're confused..... we complained back then too! :lol:

    And if they change the rules to something else.... we'll complain about that too :shock:

    They'll never make all of us happy, just no way... but if we all make our opinions heard there will be a majority usually and at least most of the people can be made somewhat happy on at least that one subject :idea:

    Nick

  12. I have mixed feelings...

    I LOVE the new 6 king rule. I fish a small boat (19' trophy) and very seldom have more than just me and the gf on it... which means I have almost NO practice running more than 4 rods. For my situation, the 6 king rule is great, as there are VERY few days where I catch 9 kings, let alone 9 quality kings.... so this new rule gives me a chance.

    Not a big fan of the laker rule.... never target them, don't know how to catch them well.

    All in all though, if I had a choice of keep it how it is now, or go back to the way it was.... I'd keep it the way it is simply because I feel that I have more of a chance of winning now on my small boat with a 4 or maybe 5 rod program compared to those of you with larger boats and 8 rods out.

    So much so, that I may join the Sodus Pro Am this year.

    Nick

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