Sweet Caroline

Thanks. Needs to go

Biggest kings usually come after  10-11am for me. Somebody once told me that early in the morning everything is active and feeding and then the smaller fish start slowing down first as the morning progresses. The larger fish with larger bellies continue to feed longer in to the morning. Kinda made sense to me and explained why after 10-11am was when I always caught my largest fish.

I have had some great afternoons as well, usually after 2 pm for salmon & steelies. If targeting lakers on bottom the middle of the day when the sun is highest has always been best for me. Browns, early morning is always best and sometimes can last until 10-11am if it is cloudy. Full moon, after 9am has always seen the best bite for me. Any time of the day with an east wind is usually going to be tough.

With that said, I have seen many many exceptions to everything. Best advice is just to fish when you have the time and the lake is nice.

Boat is still here. All my time and energy is going towards my new boat. Need this gone. Took it for a sea trial last month and boat ran great. Make an offer.

Check out Great Lakes Canvas. I believe they make the stock canvas for Sea Ray and a few other manufactures. I just ordered a bimini top for my Amberjack and it was $640 shipped. I thought that was reasonable.

They get a handful of brookies delivered every year from another hatchery. They mostly keep them in the tanks for show but do stock a few every year. Some of those brookies are probably 5-6 years old. Interesting enough they did this with some chinooks that they got from caledonia one year and they lived to be 5-6 years old. Never really grew to any size though. Maybe 20-24 in.

Ya been in some rough stuff with this boat and always felt safe. The boat would make a good cruiser too if anybody knows somebody just looking for a pleasure boat. I can easily remove the trolling motor, rod rack, trolling board and riggers and reduce the cost. There are actually two seats for the back that I took out when I bought the boat that are like new.

Anybody else concerned by this?

June 1, 2016
Lake Ontario Stakeholders:
Maintaining the Lake Ontario trophy Chinook salmon fishery depends on having sufficient numbers of
alewife to feed them and maintain good Chinook growth. A recordâ€high year class of alewife was
produced in 2012 (the 2012 “year classâ€), however, reduced survival of the 2012 year class did not
increase the adult population as managers expected in 2014 when these fish reached age 2. The two
severe winters/cool summers of 2013/2014 and 2014/2015 resulted in very poor 2013 and 2014 alewife
year classes, and the 2012 alewife year class likely makes up the majority of the current adult alewife
population in Lake Ontario. The Lake Ontario Committee (“LOCâ€: Steve LaPan representing the NYS
Department of Environmental Conservation [NYSDEC] and Andy Todd representing the Ontario Ministry
of Natural Resources and Forestry [OMNRF]) is concerned that without young alewife to replace the
adults that are eaten, there may not be sufficient alewife numbers to support trophy Chinook salmon in
a few years.
The preliminary results of the spring 2016 bottom trawl survey for alewife conducted by the NYSDEC, the
U.S. Geological Survey appear below. Since this is the first year that OMNRF staff conducted alewife
trawling, there are no comparable data to compare it to. The NYSDEC/USGS survey provides an index of
relative abundance (i.e. how this year’s catch compares to other years; it is not an estimate of actual
numbers of alewife in the lake) of both the adult alewife population (fish age 2 and older) and 1 year old
or “yearling†alewife (i.e. those fish that were spawned in 2015, or the 2015 “year classâ€). In Figure 1,
please note that adult alewife abundance index declined markedly from 2015 to 2016. Also, the estimate
of the relative size of the 2015 alewife year class (i.e. the bar for 2016 in Figure 2) measured at age 1 is
well below the 1994â€2015 average. Since these fish will contribute to the adult population next year when
they are age 2, the LOC does not expect a marked improvement in the adult population in 2017. Our
science staff will continue their analyses of these data, and will develop projections of relative alewife
abundance in 2017 and beyond.
The LOC’s current concerns are not related to adult alewife abundance in 2016; we will not be surprised
if fishing is excellent in 2016, and Chinook size is good as well. Our concerns surround the adult alewife
spawning population in 2017 and beyond. Since a large portion of the adult alewife population should be
composed of fish ages 3 †5, the LOC expects several years in the immediate future when the size of the
alewife population will be greatly reduced. The LOC has asked the Lake Ontario Technical Committee to
work together and provide the LOC with an assessment of the relative risks associated with a range of
management options this summer.
Best regards,
Steve LaPan, Great Lakes Section Head, NYSDEC
Andy Todd, Manager, Lake Ontario Management Unit, OMNRF
Figure 1. Relative adult alewife (ageâ€2 and older) abundance index (average number caught per 10â€
minute trawl tow) in the U.S. waters of Lake Ontario during late April – early May, 1978â€2016.
Figure 2. Abundance index (average catch per 10â€minute trawl tow) for yearling (ageâ€1) Alewife in the
U.S. waters of Lake Ontario during late April – early May, 1978â€2016.

New boat is here. Old needs to go! Make an offer

ok, text or call me 585-355-8505

Took the boat for a Sea Trial this weekend. Found the board went bad on the Fishfinder/GPS. Given that the boat now will not include GPS/Fishfinder I'm willing to consider lower offers. A replacement for the unit that was on the boat is approximately $300.

Does anybody have any picks of a rigged 29 Amberjack? I would be interested to see some picks as I begin to rig mine.

 

Yeah it is cool but man that is gonna stir up the regulations in a sick way. I have also been waiting to see drone footage of scouting for elk, deer, moose etc...only a matter of time.

Agree. At what point does it cross the lines of fair chase.

Too Cool!

10-15 ft is what I run. A "Cindy" patterned stick is my go to. I've also run free sliders on a middle rigger that was down 30-35 ft.

Anything orange or pink in the prop wash will get you a coho if they are around.

Don't  buy this one http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2000-SEA-RAY-290-Amberjack-102404279

 I had it surveyed - RUN!!!

2001

Had an offer that fell through. Boat still available. PM me if interested.

Good choice. I just bought one. Having it delivered next week. I know there are a couple LOU members that have Amberjacks. PM me if you have questions. I have already looked at quite a few that are out there.

Boat is still for sale as of right now. Located in Webster, Ny. Also has a garmin stern mounted fishfinder and running water with hose in fish well. Engine is a 5.7L 260Hp Merc replaced new in 2000. No working hour gauge, but since the new engine was installed we have only used it to get from point A to point B and then used a trolling motor to fish with. Big engine maybe used an hr or so per trip. So avg of 20-25 trips/yr at an hour per trip for 15 years would put the hours right around 300-375hrs. 70 gallon gas tank.

Anything above 6.5 K takes it. This boat is ready to go. 4 cannon electric downriggers, color graph with GPS, 4 stroke honda 15hp, trailer, rod holders. fishes 4 comfortably. Needs to be out, new boat arriving soon.

Needs to go. Make an offer

Unless it is gale force you are good with just about any southerly (SW/S/SE) wind since you will be fishing nearshore. Wind speeds consistently over 10-15mph from any other direction could be tough in an 18ft boat.

If Alewife entered LO through the canal system is it possible that there still is an influx of new Alewife coming into the lake from the ocean? Not sure if this is still possible or if has ever been studied but I thought I'd ask.

Good insight Gill-T. I started reading a little bit about Lake Erie phosphorus problems. Doesn't appear that there is a quick and easy solution to the phosphorus load from agriculture going in to Lake Erie. Lake Erie has actually been getting worse in recent years. Seems the same struggles have been going in other parts of the country for decades with little progress i.e dead zones in Gulf and Chesapeake Bay as prime examples. One man's trash (Erie) is another mans treasure (Ontario) I guess.

Good read for those that are interested  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/us/lifting-ban-toledo-says-its-water-is-safe-to-drink-again.html