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  1. 23 minutes ago, GAMBLER said:

    The amount of giant smallmouth coming in Sandy ever spring has increased over the last couple of years.  Ten or so years ago, there were barely any that came in during the spring spawning runs.  The fish patterns in the lake have changed and they are not in the same spots they were in back in the 90's.  Bass guys that are successful are fishing way deeper than the traditional 90's patterns.  The population is still low but they are there in fishable numbers.  Before gobies, they had to hunt for food.  Now the lake bottom is littered with gobies.  

     If there are any successful Smallmouth fisherman in the Central basin that target them, I have to see it to believe it. Yes sure by accident and Yes sure you can see spawners at Sandy every spring but good luck finding any once they move out. If anyone is targeting them after spawning and get any, lets see proof. As far as Im concerned, the Smallmouth fishing in the Central region is dead still. Hope the hell Im wrong soon. Miss em.

     

     

  2. You would of thought the Lake Ontario Smallmouth population in the Central and Western basin would of recovered by now but it hasnt. I think angler effort is pretty much non existent too (myself included but did try last 2 years but zippo near Wautoma). Thats a real mystery. I remember the huge die off years back (not sure of the date) when it was blamed on a huge water turnover but there must of been more too it than that. Maybe a combination of things. Why it hasnt recovered in that area but remains super good in the Eastern basin and Erie is the real mystery. Cant blame it on the gobies as they are there too. What a shame, I remember the 100 fish days at Sodus. For all the stocking that goes on too bad the DEC cant make this a viable fishery again. It is a Great Lake for Petes sake.

  3. I guess the truth hurts. huh? 50 yrs?  I doubt it since he kept everything. Keeping something legal is one thing but 10" bass are not legal and are slightly bigger than yearlings. Dont complain when there are no bass around with the added pressure from more people, kayaks, internet and high tech depthfinders.

  4. First of all, its total BS that NY has extended the season for Black Bass to March 15th on the Finger Lakes. Last I knew it was Nov 30th like it has been for 50 years. NYS DEC is a P.O.S. Shame on them. Cant give the bass a break because they might eat a trout? Second of all just because its open, doesnt mean you have to keep them. How about catch and release and being a conservationist? With so many guys fishing now, if everyone keeps everything, the resource will be depleted just like we are ruining everything else. (see climate change, endangered species, pollution, etc.). OK so he caught a few bass but the one on the bottom is a dink and not 12" any way you look at it. Thumbs down...

     

     

  5. I used to catch Brookies in Hemlock back in the 80's I think. I was a long time ago and they were stocked. That was so cool. One of the best colored fish. If I remember right, I think we even caught a few splake (cross between a brookie and Lake trout) . I have no idea why the brookies cant be stocked there. My favorite trout. Water is certainly clean and cold enough. Walleyes are a thing of the past. They have not been stocked for over 10-12 yrs ish. I picked up a few of them about that long ago. Both around 7 lbs. but they are toast now. Even 10 yrs ago they were only straglers left over from the club stocking. Like fishing for a needle in a haystack now unless they reproduced but you have a much better chance at Honeoye. Back in the 50s, Hemlock used to produce the winning Walleye in the Genesee Fishing Contest on a regular basis and they were big 10-12 lbs but then the Alwives took over and that was the end of that. Have no idea why the DEC hasnt or wont stock eyes in there. Have to protect the trout I guess. Too bad.

     

    BTW about 15 yrs ago I found a dead one that washed up on shore and it was huge 12-13 lbs Im guessing. Biggest one I ever saw.

  6. Totally agree! Tournaments suck! Its all about glory and money instead of nature, good company and the sport of fishing. Way too many there this year and all jammed up on the US side since Canada closed. Those fish are pounded. Even worse now that they are deep. They catch em, put em in a livewell and haul them 60 miles to weigh and get a picture taken, then stick a needle in them to fizz them so they can live. How bout a break from the tournaments,,,,,,,At least MLF Major League Fishing circuit has catch and immediate release. BASS is like a dinosaur keeping them in a livewell when the water is hot and even off the spawning beds... How does this help a fishery. DEC are you listening?

  7. Thanks for the clarification. So catch and release fishing for Bass is prohibited outside the open season in Jefferson AND St Lawrence counties including the St Lawrence river. Too many are abusing this rule and breaking the law though. These spawning bass need to be protected. Problem is many of the bass remain on the beds after the opener like this year. It could be trouble a few years from now if this keeps up. The tournaments every week are pounding this area too. Jeez I hate tournament fishing. Spoils the beauty of the sport.

  8. On 7/9/2021 at 8:16 PM, Kevin J Legg said:

    Not so much of an issue now that season is open and bass are off the beds. Most locals were complaining about guys fishing bass before the opener which is illegal here.
    Water level is low and lots of shoals so you need to be careful. Use charts and GPS to avoid accidents.
    The current in the main river can also be an issue but with a bass boat shouldn’t be a big issue in boat control. The bigger bays tend to be shallower and weedy with little current. Largemouths tend to be related to the weeds and smallmouths more on rocky shoals and deeper water.

    So is the bass fishing closed prior to the 3rd Sat in June for catch and release on the river? I thought they changed it and it was legal on the great lakes? It wouldnt hurt my feelings any as Im old school and believe catching bass off beds is like fishing in a barrel. Not sporting at all in my opinion and even worse if these BASS pros take them off the beds 50 miles away for a weigh in. I cant believe the DEC would let them do that or even the organization itself. All they care about is money and glory. Nevermind the resource. I did see a bunch of guys bass fishing before the season opened myself. It sucks.



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  9. Both Ft Niagara ramps are miserable. The North ramp is practically unusable as its very shallow and no where to tie on to. If you had someone holding the boat after you launched maybe you could get out on the South ramp cause there is no dock to tie onto there either just the big posts that are in the way and have been like that for 3 years now. If there any wave action, good luck with that. What a waste of tax payer money, ramps that cant be used. Keep in mind these were the conditions about a week ago or so.

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  10. When I was at E Manitou last week there was construction equipment parked in the parking lot where trailers park. Not sure if its still there. Wow access is a problem in this lake. Why in the world doesnt NYS DEC put a launch ramp in Hamlin Beach State Park? They have plenty of room for parking too. Just need to build a small harbor like Sturgeon Pt on Erie.

  11. I dont ever recall seeing the concrete ass pains completely out of the water before. Wow the water is low. One extreme to the other. What purpose do those things serve anyways? This is the only launch I can recall that has those things.

     

     

  12. So I have always wondered what happens to the fish in the Erie Canal once they let the water out for winter. For instance around Spencerport - Brockport they let out most of the water for winter and maybe there is 1-2 feet left in it before any ice. Do the fish travel towards Lake Erie to get out or do they live in 1-2 feet of water (unlikely) or is there more than 1-2 feet left in it? I have always wondered this question but have never heard a good answer. Can anyone chime in who may know?

  13. Never mind. I think I answered my own question right off the Canada website.

     

    COVID-19 Notice: July 20, 2020

    During the COVID-19 pandemic, unless exempted, foreign national boaters are not permitted to enter Canadian waters. Failure to comply with the current prohibition of entry for discretionary or optional reasons (leisure, pleasure fishing, sightseeing, etc.) may result in severe monetary penalties or criminal conviction and/or imprisonment. Visit Information for foreign boaters for more information.

  14. Is it true one can not fish in Canadian waters on the St Lawrence and Niagara even if they have a Canadian license? I must be living under a rock as I thought it was ok but just read they could take your boat if you are not moving (fishing) but allow you to travel through. Holy mackerel, glad I checked. Does anyone know if this is true or did I read some internet BS? Thanks BP

  15. It definitely was not a carp or shad. Im sure it was some kind of shiner type. The Fallifish is the closest I have found but I dont think even that is an exact match. Maybe. They were big though. Relatively speaking and no not a Whitefish either, I have caught them. Been fishing 57 years now and this is a first for me not knowing what the heck I caught. Got several of them that day. 

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  16. Last summer I was getting these while Smallmouth Bass fishing near Waddington. Im not totally sure 100% what they are. Some kind of chub/shiner. Maybe a Fallifish? They were about 12" or so. Anyone know for sure what these are?

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  17. Same guy who doesn't know what the term "catch and release" means. Keeps every walleye he catches no matter the size. Keeps virtually everything. If the Henderson fishing goes downhill, he'll have himself to blame. Its like hes living in the 1960's....catch it and keep it. He's posted numerous "hero" shots of huge catch and kill shots. Now the waterfowl thing.....omg.

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