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Be happy they fixed it and it is on it's way back to you. A few more days in the grand scheme of things is nothing. they could have told you they were not responsible & it was user abuse. And what  would your recourse really be ? You are not going to hurt them other than a few boat sales.

 I went through similar w/ my new boat had a bad valve in the engine. Dealer was a crook & did not do much for me but want to rip me off so I was sent  to  another distributer to have fixed , was mad as hell but it got fixed after a long while.So I feel your pain. 

Hopefully it's all good.

Yet another reason for a 51st state.

 At the ADKs the last few years there is  someone from a college or the state at each state  public launch most of the time most every day all day  at a card table inspecting boats. they give it the once over and ask where you last were . I think they are very worried about the lakes up there. Seems like window dressing to me. But who knows.

I love the the  commecials during the game that show a shinny new truck pulling a 10 ton trailer over boulders & threw mud or  through fire. Show me that truck after doing that every day for 30,000 miles.

If you are going to be out in 4'waves or worse on a consistant basis, something is bound to happen. IMO that boat is not made for that pounding . Maybe a more heavy duty commercial boat would be better. IMO not trackers fault.

What ever happened to Pat jr. ? got convicted of child molestation & before sentencing he was released to go home. Next morn they found he escaped through a basement window & fell off the planet for a long  while till he turned up in a hotel on the banks of Johnson creek in Lyndonville. I wonder how that all happened & who was paying his rent & feeding him money ? How many lives that guy ruin ? Maybe got his due in prison.

Great lure all the same & one that changed the fishery , at least for me . Those & Pirates.

California is like a box of granola. What aint fruits & nuts is flakes.

Got any more.

Have the urge to smash a watermelon.

Amen to that.

Nice 32 ftr  in the classifieds. Can  we get you to reconsider ?

Track  system, elec riggers , Rod holders, weights & releases', mast, boards , releases,fish hawk, rods, reels, mono , coppers, lead cores,wire, dipseys . lures etc.

 Before you spend a couple K on all  that and bolt it to the boat might I suggest the purchace of a bigger boat first.

Buy that & mount it, Jones all week about being out there & on game day  you want to take the field & there are 2-4 ' waves & the big boats are out there putting the hammer down on the fish, you won't be happy sitting on the sidelines catching sunfish. I say that cause I been there done that.

Easy to get caught up in the hype of all this . Got racks of rods & boxes of lures o the shelf to prove that also.

BOAT............ Bust out another thousand. My setup was free. Scraps off the job site. Works great.

I made a board for mine  that i can take on nd off ,I have it across the gunnels w/ riggers at a 45 deg hanging off the sides in front of the motor well. You need to be able to get at them easily & safely so you can adjust depth & set your baits out. This is critical so you can keep from snagging & go after the fish you see on your depth finder.Very 9important for after labor day kings. I constantly adjust depth for this.

 Spring I like to run stickbaits back 75-200' and put the ball just under the surface or 10-15' off the bottom' once I get out over 12-15'. Caught many a spring king doing this.

How you set the boat up will have a big impact on your success.Put your riggers , rodholders & boards in the right locations so you can get at them eaisily.

You will need a depth finder . surface temp & speed also would be nice  .

Boards for spring. Shallow stickbaits  best option.

 A pair of manual rigger would be nice when the fish are out past 10 -15' or so but not needed. Sticks or deep divers that run deeper can do that. Or put a few shot on in front of them . Only run a few rods at a time .

You are not a big boat so don't try to be. The big boats have some big advantages . But a smaller boat  can have some huge advantages over them . You can get in very shallow into the warm water . you are also much more nimble & can turn around & stay on the spot  much easier than a big boat can. When the kings  stage after labor day or when the fish are in a small piece of warm  water  springtime.

Also timing is everything as you are not going to chase the fish all over the lake.Wind is everything . I bring my bass rods and I can't get on the lake I fish  the creek.

I have a 21' hardtop & a 16 aluminum . I have way more fun  after labor day in the small boat.

Safetyy first.

 Don't forget the net.

Good luck

I will  help with the Sandy Creek pens.

 I am self employed carpenter for over 30 years. Busted my butt and still do.  I was working on a union job once and remember the day I was told by union guys that I needed to slow down because I was making them look bad.

 There is a place for the unions that being said.

Can't wait to see what next year brings. All this could be for nothing. We have had terrible years in the past ,only to have banner fishing the next. Crazy weather the last few years ..

So Capt Vince , what were the results of the clipping studies that you participated in . I''d  like to know that . Could shine a lot of light on the subject.

Do not twist. i crushed the fibers & ruined a rod that way. Had my coustom 10 fly rod stuck. I drive a van so it was easy to transport. Used it about 10 times that way. Tried it one day & it came apart. Use it a while.

Read it again , all you guys should.

Read the lake Michigan thing. A lot of that maybe could be applied to LO. Especially the competition between the zebras & Alwieves for the bottom of the food chain thing. Confirms I guess what we already knew.

 Also found the part about" population   modeling " interesting. Maybe that is what the lakers are for & in a few years they could do the job. Lets hope.

I think that the state is past the " Hey lets throw a bunch of fish in the lake and see what happens" way of doing things .The LM report  is some  evidence of that.  I hope they use the data they get , calculate, come up with a plan & execute it .Staying on the side if safety.  I think they care more than  some of you give them credit for.

And yeah the law change reference was kind of a dig , and I knew it probably wouldn't help you guys much. But it certainly did not help.

 Not to go against the grain  but I can see why some of you guys might be more than a little upset about this king thing. Some of you guys have invest 10's & in some cases 100's of thousands of dollars into pursuing them and built their lives around it. . All anyone has to do is look up & down any port to see the boats & equipment on them .

What are you smoking & give me some if you really think that they are going to shut down a shipping channel that transports billions in products & jobs for a  freakin fish. Really?

Poison a lake? I was at my ADK happy spot, Mecham Lake,about 8 years back. Saw 6 canoes w/ DEc guys in green shirts at the boat launch. Asked if they were having class. Told my no , they found some invasive plant. 3 years back all weedbeds I fished over were gone & no fish. All the 5-6 # bass and the 20# pike gone also . Hate the fact but maybe they felt like they had to do it. And really , what was their choice?

I wonder why the shots are called as they are and by who . Must be a reason. DECis under a lot of pressure to keep a world class fishery out there & keep the money flowing into the state the way I see it but I could be wrong.

A law was passed a few years back pushed by a lot of guys on here ( I was against) , and now less fish. Hows that working out for ya?

We see Pie Charts, Graphs , spread sheets  etc in great detail on every aspect of the fishery & economics. Even saw the amount of bait in LO in metric tons I think. I figure they know more than most think.

 There is going to be a spike in out of state licence sales & sales & gas tax the next few months for  trib guys looking to tag a King  Brown  or steelhead. I see figures on how much this bring in to the state.

Why would the powers at be risk this ? There must be a reason. 

 I am sure fishing guys get into the ears at any chance to the decision makers that fisherman want more kings..They have to know that salmon are what most guys want & come here for. IS SR hatchery at capacity ? Cant cost a whole lot more to  stock more kings all things considered.

27 years for the Laker you caught  Gambler  to get to 35 lbs. The winning LOC  35 lb king grew that fast in 4.

3 years ago did they not stock kings ? Where are they ?   What happened to all the steelhead you guys couldn't keep off the line last summer.?

I have to think the brain trust has short & long term plans for the fishery based on reasearch, history & economics. Maybe they do know more than they let on about the fishery.At least they know the lakers will survive.

Also there are good years & bad year. Has been since the begining of this. Hopfully it will straighten itself out.

Must be a reason why the powers at be are making the decision to stock all these lakers & not kings. They must know that the kings are what most anglers want.  Why?

There is a lot  of study that goes into LO . Also 40 or so years of history . I defer to them. 

Sounds like some of you guys should apply for positions w/ the Board of Fisheries to  help them out.

Welcome to Orleans County. All comes down to dollars & cents. Remember guys, we are the highest taxed state in the nation. And Orleans county a few years back had the HIGHEST property tax rates in the NATION.

Yet another reason for a 51st state.

Seems to me that they are stocking kings , just not as many . Also that we are not getting the returns that we want from those stocks. Average size of fish are smaller .

Lakes Ecosystem  has become volatile year to year. Maybe what is in the lake is what it can support. What you want may not be in the best interest of the lake.There are a lot educated people whose job it is to make sure there is a fishery out there. I think they do a pretty good job of it , all things considered.

My bro says that the state is considering shuttimg down one side & making it a two way road on one side.

If you were the Blue Alunimnum , I was the small gray boat  out there also.