salmonboy41

Fished today went 2/4 saw this one boat that would double up about every 20 minutes

Fish on!

that may have been me. all but the first fish of the day came as a double.

you must of been the boat just on the outside of us that i thought the sailboat was going to run into as i was fighting my fish.  It seems like that same sailboat does that to us just about every weekend.    

Yeah he didn't miss my planner board by much.  I can't believe how he just drove through everyone like that totally I his own little world.  I heard you guys yell at him.

Tough fishing indeed I think the only fish I saw caught was team Rigged's 30 lber that almost lost when that sail boat tried to run everyone over.   

I'm ok with cuts due to the current data as long as we have a guarantee that they will increase the stocking of kings once the bait rebounds.  I know Steve and Andy made it sounds like it was for sure thing at the meeting but I would feel better if we had something in writing.

I just hope the tugboat got a few of them.

will anyone be around sandy Wednesday-Friday?

On the lake how can you tell the difference? The pics I've seen they look like Coho?

take a look at the tails of the ones Vision Quest has been posting. you will notice that they spots on there tails unlike a Ho.

Fished Saturday morning out of Olcott and did pretty good out deep. They weren't all huge fish but a nice mix of year classes which is nice to see. I'm not sure what Sundays blow did to the fish but I'd say get up here and fish. The fishing isn't bad and there is very few ppl around so you don't have to fight the crowds.

I'm gonna start treating lakers like gobies, eels and comorants........

Probably not a bad idea, maybe if everyone starts doing that just maybe the DEC will get the hint and cut the numbers they are stocking. and yeah I know never going to happen but I can dream plus would anyone notice if they cut lake trout stocking in half.

that's no Brown that's an Atlantic.

The strains they are using are not native so the whole thing is a farce

VERY true and the same can be said about the Atlantic Salmon they are stock.  Just like the blue pike the fish that swam in LO 200 years ago and are long gone and the LT's and Atlantic's of today are not really any more native then the kings and steelys.

And Brian everyone is buying your rigs one because LT's maybe all that's left, two the oak pro am and three you catch some seriously impressive LT's. 

For a fish that lives 20 years we put a lot of them in our lake

For a fish that very few want we put a lot of them in our lake

I agree with what you are saying. It seems counterproductive to stock more mouths to feed.

Aren't they saying the LT are eating the gobies? Are they trying to control the gobies?

Due to the LT's preferred temps and depths, gobies will only be available to them in the cold months so from say June to say September/October they are eating smelt and alewives.

If the DEC really want to stock a trout that ate gobies more often then not they would increase the number of browns being stocked.

Thanks for the tips.

thanks for the tips I think I have a better idea now of what I'm going to do.  I was going to head towards the Kenai but after Gill-T's post I'm thinking I'll stay above Anchorage.

Due to work schedules my wife has me going around the first half of July.

In every creek you cross you will find fish. Every mouth of a creek flowing out into the ocean will have fish you can cast too. Most creeks will have Dolly Varden and Greyling a few miles upstream and beyond from the ocean. Char are more inland. Pink salmon will clog the mouth of creeks near ocean. Silvers chum and sockeye will be anywhere on a river depending on timing. There will be plenty of closed to fishing stretches that will frustrate you. Hike upsteam of any stream that crosses a road and you will have the place to yourself. Don't stop at bird creek as it is shoulder to shoulder due to closeness to anchorage. Your first destination should bear creek or black bear campground (can't remember name) on portage creek...I believe. The small creek that runs clear near camp site is closed to fishing to protect sockeye. However where that creek dumps into the muddy portage creek there is nice hole where the clear water mixes and there you will find your fish. Bring dry flies for Greyling and lake whitefish. Bring large Vibrax spinners with orange hackle for casting off mouths of creeks into ocean. Fish skein off river mouths in ocean for Sole (delicious). Bring streamers and orange egg patterns for silvers chum sockeye and dolly Varden.

Thanks Gill-T that makes me feel better as I have had a few ppl tell me the fishing wasn't very good aside from the Halibut fishing. But these ppl aren't regular salmon fishermen and they just fished the Kenai so I'm not sure how to take there experience.

I take it you have been there?

Thanks I think one of the places we are staying offers a charter so will do.

My wife and I are planning a trip to Alaska next summer.  Currently the plans are to rent an RV as she wants to go Denali and go to various places on the Highway, then we are going to fly out to one of the remote towns in Southwest Alaska.  I'd like to catch some of the fish species that we don't have here like sockeyes, graying and Dollys.  I've been doing research and there seems to be a lot water and HUGE amount of regulations. So being a once in a life time trip I was wondering if someone on here who has been to Alaska wouldn't mind sharing some tips and there experience. 

Vince, I am fishing the am division... I now have to fish out of olcott or Wilson correct? My original plan was to dock at the oak for a month and do the niagara and oak orchard open... But I will need to change that possibly very soon if I must fish IN niagara county

I checked the torments rules on the Pro Am website and its states that you can only fish out of the 4 Niagara county ports of Wilson, Olcott, the Niagara, and Golden Hill.

I put a kicker on boat just to have extra engine, but the fuel savings are huge just like Chas0218 if you troll a lot.

Nice to see the weight in time moved back.

With all this warm weather, how soon till the stores start putting their ice fishing stuff on clearance?  We may be lucky to get out by the end of January.  I'm already planning on taking a row boat out on the day after x-mas.

 

I'm not saying it isn't going to snow, but it will be a while before we get 4 to 5 inches of safe ice.

I was out in the boat the other day on a lake in WNY and the water temp was still in the mid 40's. So the lakes have a ways to go before they freeze even if we do get cold weather.

Lapan said they take from all year classes.  He also said it should not affect genetics.  I'm not too sure I believe that. 

I've heard Lapan say that as well but I don't really believe it.  Just look at the different wild stocks Kings for example the large Kenai kings that reach maturity around years 6 and 8. In theory if you took eggs from these fish you get 6 to 8 year old fish or in our case if you took eggs from 2 year old fish you would get 2 year old fish more often then not, because that's the dominate genetic make up of the fish you are getting the eggs from.

I'm been having that issue lately seems like there just not migrating down like normal.  Thinking maybe its do to the warm weather.